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18.08.2011 14:58, DanMar

Most likely, observe the temperature and humidity of the soil, as in its homeland. A long diapause is not typical for the southern regions. And even better in Turkey in Antalya you could find the larvae of a grasshopper of the genus Drymadusa they are about 8 cm in size(with wings) and sing incredibly loudly, in addition, it is much easier and safer to take out larvae than adults, who are less tolerant of flight. Also, the larvae shed more than once and adapt better to the new habitat.

18.08.2011 16:47, alex017

On Friday 26avg I go there again. Let's see what's grown there over the summer)))

29.08.2011 21:04, alex017

And it didn't grow much over the summer. Egyptian fillies are overgrown, but it is difficult to catch them, to put it mildly, because they fly perfectly, grasshoppers do not jump very large.
I caught a couple of akridas (steppe conics), only their size is indecently small, about 3-4cm and probably 1/100 in quantitative ratio.
Cicadas chirp in the trees. Judging by the dry skins on the palm trees, the size of cicadas is modest.
In the dark, among the crowns, someone flutters, not at all small in appearance, something reminds us of our swifts (definitely not them!).
I have seen very few dragonflies.

29.08.2011 22:17, Bad Den


In the dark, among the crowns, someone flutters, not at all small in appearance, something reminds us of our swifts (definitely not them!).

Either bats or nightjars

29.08.2011 22:53, DanMar

As for the cicadas in the trees, it may not be them at all, but just those giant dreamadoos that I brought back as larvae. I say they're bigger than Egyptian fillies.
The chirping sounds are similar to the friction of two sheets of sandpaper or those tsykads that we have in the Crimea. To be honest - very loud, it's very hard to fall asleep to them, much louder than any tettigonia there, etc.But in the spring I found grasshoppers there at an early stage, brought a couple of folidopters very small, jumps even less, which soon died. Not very large - what are they? Most likely, they were exactly the same eupholidopters, they are slightly smaller than our green ones, but without wings, and their physique is different.
By the way, here are the dreamadoos and pholidopters that I raised:
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30.08.2011 18:02, Hierophis

I wonder why go to it at all, to this Turkey then, since there is nothing there smile.gif
There we are now in the south of Ukraine from locusts on the coastal meadows full of very large, up to 5 cm on the body of locusts, I don't know what they are called, acrids are also full, by the way, you need to take into account that our two-colored acrids males are smaller than females(just about 4 cm long), and there are two morphs in color(probably from here and the name smile.gif). There are quite a lot of albifrons, and in general we don't have many grasshoppers this year for some reason, but all the same, even dybki come across.

30.08.2011 21:55, DanMar

No, I think Turkey is great in terms of straight-winged birds, particularly long-whiskered ones. Here there is already another question - where exactly to go to Turkey. After all, it is very diverse in biotopes, and if you drive away from the forest areas to another region, get to the steppe, then you can meet the fat callimenus dasipus there. And there should be a lot of dybok there, and large blacksmiths, most often probably bush lovers are found.

30.08.2011 22:04, Hierophis

Of course, the erect-winged fauna there is much richer than ours, but it's just a pity to read that nothing has been found again smile.gif
In principle, I once wrote about the same thing, that you need to devote more time to exploring the area, including "from space", in order to look out for promising areas in the vicinity, calculate the distance, and so on. However, the disadvantage of all this is that the country is unknown, one, and if you also do not speak languages= it's scary to go far, because a standard "faunal" hike of one day can accommodate up to 30 km of the route, and all sorts of situations.

Although in our country, too, if you go "somewhere", you won't find it right away either, except for acrid and gray grasshoppers.

31.08.2011 12:50, DanMar

Well, you need to know what (who) to go for, while having data on the habitat of the species. Which biotopes include the "target" species, and depending on this, plan your trip.

31.08.2011 19:05, alex017

In confidence, I went for hermits, snails, horse anemones, cuttings of plants. I have fulfilled the plan on these points. It's a bit annoying that the beetles are a bummer....
The reasons are clear to everyone and are all written here.
There are no grasshoppers in the mountainous area. Here and there someone chirps, but how do you imagine a man in the center of the city, climbing in a clearing?! Went today in the direction of the mountains, there are no clearings ((((On large trees someone screams. Ie screeching only near those places where the larvae of these cicadas can live.
Who are nightjars? Also bats?
Why don't I have a vacation in Russia, Ukraine? Yes, I want to relax, and not spoil my mood. I don't have much money for my vacation, so I have nowhere else to go except Turkey. Lower your prices, find out what the service is, and learn more in the "backward" category."Of course, maybe then they will visit you.

01.09.2011 21:17, alex017

I would like to apologize for a somewhat harsh statement about Ukraine! However, I do not think that any of you are engaged in the hotel business, so you should not take it personally! I also understand that in Turkey, the hotel business is very well dated by the state, so the owners of the hotel business are also only partly to blame.
Well, I was a little upset about the failure with the flights....... ((
What is convenient to fly here? - left the house, 10h and I'm in paradise, where there are no problems with food even in the troika, round-the-clock hot water, cozy and clean room, cleaning every day.... When I compare this with the stories of my compatriots about holidays in our country (Ukraine is all one), then only the word "nightmare" comes to mind, and my friends themselves can't speak without a mat and next time they say that they will go anywhere, but away from Russia, Ukraine...

I wasn't even going to take the insects I was looking for with me, I just wanted to look and take pictures, because the animals need care, and this is burdensome, but not for me, but for those who take care of them when I'm not at home. It is clear that this is a scanty care, but not everyone is of this opinion, unfortunately. Because of this, I had to get rid of the bronzes. Otherwise, I would get myself a leaflet, I've been wanting it for a very long time, a friend offered to get it.

As a result, I collected a small crop of cuttings of bougainvillea, medlar, persimmon, hibiscus, and something else. I caught snails, hermits, and a sea urchin.
It was stormy, I didn't catch as much as I wanted, I had to stop after the wave washed away, and it was risky to continue the search.
I managed to slip almost on land and drop the camera in the water. He looks like he's finished.

I bought the most excellent peaches and figs, we do not have figs at all or at an unthinkable price (pcs as here kg), we also do not come across such delicious peaches.

Now I'm going to get on a plane and think about spring, when I hope I can be here again.
Thank you all for your help!

02.09.2011 20:07, Николаевич

Hm. And I can't buy a ticket to the Crimea. I live as usual cheaper, amenities in the yard, etc., but pulls from this no less.I'm not worried about the service, but about squandering protected areas for mansions.
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02.09.2011 22:53, Hierophis

Hmm, personally, I don't care that where there is better or worse in terms of service, it is rumored that in the Crimea and in general on the coast of the World Cup inflated prices in tourist centers, hotels and all that, compared to the same Turkey. But I do not go into it, it is more important for me to study the surrounding areas, the service is such a thing, it depends on individual needs, you can find a "shack" for living for a small price, and in the off-season, especially in spring, when it is just the season in other aspects, except for the sea and sun-you can also find a normal house! But this is certainly not convenient for those who live far away, or rather risky, since you have to go literally "at random", look for housing on the spot, and you never know what will happen there.
Just here the forum is thematic, and when I wrote, I meant exactly what insects, reptiles like there are few, what is the point then to go there-by myself judged smile.gif

But as for fruits, they are usually "tasteless" from Turkey, but the truth is that it happens in the off-season, I suspect that even there there are no local fruits, and this is all some kind of greenhouse winter version of grapes, strawberries, peaches.

03.09.2011 19:33, alex017

Well, here I am and frown.gifAutumn is felt in everything at home....

The journey from my door to the hotel door takes approximately 10 hours. I don't know why, but I don't feel very well on the road, I can't sleep, I arrive with a severe headache, i.e. I literally come to the room and fall on the bed, the first day falls completely, the second - almost completely. If you go for a few days, then I just won't make it, I won't be looking for housing and food anymore.
Well, the second largest factor of choice is the price: I'm not rich enough to have a vacation in Russia or Ukraine.
The next slightly less important factor is a clear sea.
When traveling to Turkey, all these factors have an optimal combination.
And the point is to go..... perhaps the meaning is not quite clear, if you do not live in an area where everything is covered with snow for six months, and the remaining six months are spring, smoothly turning into autumn. We need to take a break from this sometimes.

To catch someone, you need to study the area better, i.e. go to the same place, and go for more days, at least a couple of weeks.

07.09.2011 20:15, alex017

Here's almost everyone I've met in Turkey.
There were more of them all. Just heaps, size 3cm.
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An Egyptian filly. There are also a lot of them (near the sea, in the mountains-no).
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This little animal met once
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Beautiful butterfly
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25.03.2012 18:53, alex017

It's spring again and I'm going there again.

I bought a powerful 1200lm diving flashlight, the batteries should last for several hours.
Does it make sense to hang a white screen in some remote place and try fishing? Who can I catch?

Maybe someone can tell you how to get from Alanya to lowland areas that are not very inhabited (so that you can take a bus and return in a day)?

Maybe someone who is interested in wildlife and vegetation also goes at this time (from 7 May, 21 midnight)? We can cooperate!
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25.03.2012 19:03, Hierophis

It's spring again and I'm going there again.


Just like "and again morning, and again to work" smile.gif

I would advise you to ask Danmar where he caught his erect wings, because he caught them, and which ones!

In general, it's better to come here, it's not worsesmile.gif here, but only on May 7 - it's a little early, like past experience has shown that it's early, and given this winter, while everything will sleep through and go away..
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25.03.2012 19:04, Shtil

By the way, in June in Alanya, Temnorhynchus baal roams right on the city beach at dusk.
And so, minibuses run from Alanya to mountain villages - it's quite possible to turn around in a day.
Only heavily uninhabited areas there are not particularly frown.gifgoats, goats, and more goats. And sometimes even shepherds. Yoh-ho!

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25.03.2012 19:10, Hierophis

"By the way, in June, Temnorhynchus baal roams right on the city beach at dusk in Alanya."

And what to do with it, you can't keep it at home smile.gifIt looks like our Pentagon idiot, who wanders everywhere at all times of the day smile.gif

25.03.2012 19:14, vasiliy-feoktistov

"By the way, in June, Temnorhynchus baal roams right on the city beach at dusk in Alanya."

And what to do with it, you can't keep it at home smile.gifLike our Pentagon idiot, who wanders everywhere at all times of the day smile.gif

Here's what to do wink.gif
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25.03.2012 20:25, alex017

Thank you all!
I don't know why, but I don't get notifications about responses!
Well, why how to get to work? This is a way to escape from work)) Otherwise, they will call, so I'm going for a long time, so that almost the entire vacation passes. There is no money to go anywhere else on stolko.
I was in Turkey in May and at the end of August. In August, I didn't like it at all, because I couldn't collect hermits, anemones and others in the sea (the storm was stronger than in May and there was no one near the shore).
Everything blooms in Turkey in May! Beauty! Medlar, strawberry...yum-yum. And in August, there is no real fruit yet, there are no flowers anymore, the sun is scorched desert. If you go there, then either in May or at the end of September-October.
I would go to Ukraine and Russia, if there was a holiday as convenient and cheap as in Turkey.
This winter was quite warm in Alanya, now it is already about 20 degrees. And last year it was somewhere 13 according to forecasts. When we flew up, according to the forecast, it was 17, at least 25 came out of the samomlet, and when we reached Alanya, it was about 30. That is, if now according to the forecast 20, then in reality there are 25. It seems to me that spring will be early.

So I bought this pocket searchlight to wander around the beach at dusk. The light is incredible.
Only the animals for the pin don't interest me. It's not my thing. For the sake of content, I can only take it.

Hiking in the mountains is my favorite activity!! I didn't really take the bus, but it's more interesting to walk.
The only bad thing is that you have to walk at random. I'd like to know a specific place....

I found out the habitat of erect-winged birds in Alanya. Only there kakayato dvizhuha was observed, the main thing is not to build a hotel is not thought up, otherwise kick-ass.

Thank you all! Waiting for more tips))
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25.03.2012 20:53, Hierophis

Well, of course, it's already warm there, I just understood that there were problems with the hatching of straight-winged birds, maybe this year there won't be such a delay. In general, there should be a lot of intersenoy wildlife, you need to search regularly and climb a lot, in principle, it will even be something like work and not like kurort smile.gif

26.03.2012 23:12, DanMar

Well, I was near Kemer, in the village of Goyniuk, as I said before! I only went about a kilometer away there - the larvae of bush-loving plants began to come across, and sometimes dybki and drimaduzi, I later found larval jumps, but all this was everywhere-somewhere more, somewhere less. Near the road, right in the woods. I climbed a rocky mountain - even more erect-winged ones. By the way, just at that time there were few Prussians and Egyptian fillies.
Here on this hill met in large numbers:
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26.03.2012 23:19, DanMar

Tell us what you'll find!

27.03.2012 6:01, alex017

I'm starting to build a terrarium for animals. I will make a front viewing window, edging along the edges of the top and bottom for rigidity and fixing the grid on all sides, so that it is well ventilated. the lid is also glass+mesh. Maybe I'll bring you something. Kemer and Alanya are probably 50km away from each other. But this time I am going for many days, I will try to go further into the mountains and go to storna Kemer a little bit. Thanks!
I will inform you without fail, with photos))
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27.03.2012 16:26, Shtil

From Alanya to Kemer is not as close as it seems on the map. You can certainly turn around in a day, but you can't walk far, there won't be enough time.

27.03.2012 16:28, alex017

That's not what I'm talking about, a walk is out of the question. I'm talking about buses, for example. Although I like to take a walk, I'm not a masochist.

27.03.2012 16:40, Shtil

As an option, it is better to drive off in the direction of Anamur. At least it's less crowded. And on the highway on the way back, you can always catch something.

27.03.2012 20:49, alex017

Anamur is farther than Mahmutlar on the highway?

27.03.2012 21:18, Shtil

Yes, as soon as the farms and garbage dumps end and small hills overgrown with pine trees begin, you can go out - I think there will be something else in the spring.

27.03.2012 21:23, alex017

I wonder if I've ever seen buses go there...

27.03.2012 21:34, Shtil

How is that? Through the central otogar (bus station in Turkish) of Alanya to the east a lot of everything goes. This is the main southern road to Mersin and Adana. Large buses of the Akdeniz company, for example, run from early morning to night.

28.03.2012 9:22, alex017

Thanks! I'll try to find it all!
Are you not aware of ticket prices? Do you know any other details? Stop as well as small outhouses anywhere?

28.03.2012 17:27, Shtil

Stops it on demand. We had no problems with this.
I don't remember the exact prices, but it was acceptable.

28.03.2012 17:31, alex017

Thanks! Can you tell me the approximate mileage (how much to go in that direction)? At least approximately (10, 20, 50 km)?

28.03.2012 18:48, Hierophis

By the way, yes, there is still such a moment that locusts and locusts in general somehow come out later than grasshoppers. We have locusts starting to come across from July, like, and massively from August.

And it seems to me that it is better to devote time to exploring the territories in the north of Alanya, near the mountains, to find some areas with steppe vegetation, plains, wastelands, in general, something b. m. virgin, is there really nothing there? After all, there are still some small plains like Kaike, and Alanya is like a cat crying, there is no 3 km across in the widest part of the city, you can climb everything if you don't cool off on kurortas ))))
There zapadene there is some wasteland, not far from the "official" label with the name "Alanya", there is also a photo signed" Ankara " on the very same wasteland smile.gifThere is also an interesting place. Although it is not clear whether you can climb there or not... And in general, how will the locals react to such attacks)

28.03.2012 18:52, alex017

There's a vacant lot outside the city, closer to the mountains, I've been there. Calm and quiet, the ground is rocky, there are no animals.
You can climb everywhere there, the local population is friendly.

28.03.2012 21:02, Shtil

I won't tell you the mileage-see for yourself. How do you like the place-you shout "fool" to the driver! (Stop in Turkish) - well, there is already a situation. I honestly don't understand a little-how is there no living creatures?
We had the beast everywhere. Even in cities, despite the fact that at night there are mosquitoes poisoned from cars.

29.03.2012 4:47, alex017

There was a small vacant lot behind the hotel. I could hear the chirping, but I wasn't going to go fishing in the middle of town. And where the city ends - silence as luck would have it.

04.05.2012 10:45, alex017

Well, the departure time is almost here.
I thought to try to catch the light of a mosh SD flashlight, but when sending it, the charger for 18650 batteries turned out to be broken, and we only have it in one store and for a lot of money with useless parameters (charging current 300mA). I bought it again in Zabugorye for 1AKH4 for each item. I'll make do with day fishing....
The fishing hooks are too big, and you can't get a net with a folding handle anywhere else.
The grasshopper terrarium has not yet been completely finished, the grass has not yet been planted and can no longer be planted.
Somehow not very well frown.gif

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