What to bring from Turkey (Alanya)

There will be a problem with movement. There is nothing on the territory of the hotel, but how to get to the mountains or the desert? Experienced entomologists took an inexpensive car for rent. You can try to find out the end points from local minibuses. Ride in them , see the surroundings. Find your hotel on Google Map and get directions to the nearest nature (where there are no houses).

Some impressions will not be enough!
A car and an experienced entomologist are not about me.
Alanya is not so densely arranged, the area of Mahmutlar was chosen not by chance, friends were there, they say that it is quite wild, you can find uninhabited beaches and quite wild places. From the photos I brought from them, I saw that there are vacant lots.
By the way, it would also be interesting to increase the species diversity of your marine aquarium: collect pea crabs (I really want to, but I don't know how to distinguish them from ordinary small crabs), sea urchin, snails, horse anemone, dog fish.

Somehow I have never communicated with Googlmap Although it is even on the phone..... We will somehow understand.....

Wow!!! Yes, you want to bring from Turkey - a whole aquarium! This is after all what volumes and technologies are needed to stop it from there all the way to Perm? In the case of insects and other arthropods, it is very reliable to collect all sorts of ootek, eggs(the same stick insects), fixed clutches, small larvae, etc. You can put some copper coin in your bag-if they find it-make huge eyes and yell

There will be no problems crossing the border. My mother once carried prawns in a jar of water right in a woman's purse in her hand luggage. When I saw it, I was surprised myself! No one even noticed.

The goal is to get a lot out of there. The same snails, hedgehogs, crabs will perfectly survive the flight in a wet rag in a juice box or a water bottle.
The problem is much bigger - to find them!

I want to make some huge blacksmiths out of insects. Only they will still be small, you can't guess what they will grow up to be.

Further complicating matters is the fact that I basically don't know where or who to look for!

You just have a goal - "extremely much". Personally, I would ask the legislation on this topic, what ea it can be. Okay, if they just take it away, and if they also put it in jail?

I myself live not very far from the sea, well, 1.5 hours away by bus probably, so, it is very difficult to bring live fish-needles, flounders, mussels, crabs of all sorts was, I think I never brought alive, pravvda still in school days was. Even if I catch crabs in the river right next to my house in the summer, and it takes 15 minutes by bike, but it's hot, a lot of people die anyway. It seems to me that marine life is much more dislikes violation of water chemistry than freshwater.

And grasshoppers are hard to keep at home, it's better to look for stick insects or praying mantises, some kind of cicada to catch. And the size of the grasshoppers there will not be much larger than that of our white-fronted grasshopper.
By the way, about the cicadas, I gathered our local ones somehow, so they started singing in the minibus in the bag - it was some kind of horror, everyone turned their heads around in search of the source of sound, well, I'm for one with them, so they didn't guess where the screeching is))) I'll present this case on the plane!

Would you like to know exactly what a cicada looks like and where to catch it?
What's the point of catching it? Live the summer and throw it away... And the larvae live as long as I myself am not sure that I will live)) Does it make any special sense to catch them? Well, unless you try to annoy your neighbors in Russia.
I often kept grasshoppers singing at home at night. At night, they were taken to the bathroom. They raised their voices until November, especially tenacious ones - until the new year.
About the successful upkeep of their home ... yes, it's difficult, I still don't really understand what exactly kills them: humidity or lack of it. However, in a jar where the grass was almost hay, blacksmiths lived longer and the paws with wings were healthier than in a jar with planted grass, where the humidity was higher. And what exactly should I feed them? One herb is clearly not enough. How predatory are they? I still didn't understand, because not every blacksmith was invited to eat the animals that were planted on him, but others did not refuse raw beef. By the way, another problem: blacksmiths must be kept in the tank strictly alone, otherwise one will devour the other.
However, I like blacksmiths more than others, the same stickmen. I don't know why, probably because we don't look for easy ways.

I really envy you! Live 1.5 hours from the sea! It's just a dream come true!

As for the delivery of aquatic animals to the house, there were always problems. The main thing is not to do this in the heat of +35 (in our area, too, it happens fortunately!). However, most of the problems turn out to be solvable.
For example, I always wanted to bring home Verkhovka, rudd, bream and so on. From the reservoir to the house 1.5-2 hours of travel. It didn't work out for a long time. Then he did one trick. In a plastic bag for transporting aquarium fish, I poured quite a bit of water to the bottom, leaving a huge amount of air supply. I took a bottle of water from the same reservoir with me, changed the water about halfway there. As a result, I drove everyone in good health. After the transfer to aquas, they surfaced. But the fact of delivery was there. After that, I did the same thing in the worst heat, when the reservoir was very hot (I collected replacement water in the stream). The journey home was a marathon, of course, otherwise the water in the backpack would have overheated. I brought them home, transplanted them, all survived on the day of the transplant, died later, it turned out that my water in akvas was much more polluted than in the reservoir. Completely successful was the attempt after organizing a herbalist, replacing water with osmosis (improving water quality). I brought the animals right after the strong and long-standing heat subsides, when the water in the reservoir is still very warm, and it's already cool outside, you don't have to worry about heating the water during transportation.

If you read aquarium forums, they transport animals even from those places (tropical seas), from which export is strictly prohibited and a fine is waiting for detection, and Turkey is a great country in this regard, there is a ridiculous inspection, the main thing is that nothing is thrown in your eyes. Well, mom with shrimp in a jar is still in my memory))) I was the only one who was shocked by it, and the security guards didn't care about it.
Well, the shrimp survived in the bank for many hours of flight, a couple of hours drive to the airport, waiting at the airport, in general, about 10 hours (5 shrimp in 100 ml of water).

And that there are crabs in the river? I've never heard of it.
I will try not to break the water chemistry. I have almost free access to sea water. I'll take a hydrometer with me (I bought a miniature one specifically). I will measure the salinity in the sea, and at home I will do the same: I can adapt the animals in a separate aquarium with a specially made salinity and a gradual transition to salinity in my main aquarium. Although I immediately released the imported shrimps and snails to the main aquas, they did not even think to complain.

I also wonder if you can take a spinning reel with you? This is to catch bait for hedgehogs and other animals. They are good for spoiling meat in traps.

This post was edited by alex017 - 23.02.2011 18: 07

Intersena cicadas are very strange insects in their shape, and their trills are sonorous. Of course, the full life cycle of a house is probably very difficult, but the trill of a Turkish cicada, a living reminder - I would bring it Especially since there cicadas are probably almost as large as sparrows.
Grasshoppers obviously suffer from a number of factors, such as the quality of food, stagnant air - as a result-an abundance of suspended spores of various fungi, and a lack of spectrum in lighting, which may be important for them. If we generalize, we can conclude that insects that live in the litter, under the ground, are much easier to tolerate captivity than those that live on grass, in conditions of increased ventilation, lighting. They need both moisture and dew, and at the same time they need air solubility. We have a very interesting grasshopper spread out-steppe dybka. It lives very well in a terrarium, does not get sick, feeds on cockroaches and other grasshoppers. In general, all large grasshoppers are mostly predators, but they also eat grass. Decticus, tettigonia-very fond of eating their own kind, dybki generally only predators. In Turkey, by the way, there are probably larger types of dybok.

I also keep freshwater fish, I have minnows, pluckers, chebachki, gobies, sun perches, nine-spined sticklebacks, recently only the needle fish died, and of course I brought all of them from our rivers. There were no problems with these types during delivery, only then a lot of people died from the manifested diseases, but I plan to contain bleaks - it will probably be more difficult here. It was very difficult to bring needle fish, but when it got colder, the survival rate became normal, and one of the needle fish lived in the aquarium for approx. 5 months. As for the incomplete filling of the tanks - and will not the fish be bad from the fact that the water there is bubbling like a storm during transportation? When walking, and even in a backpack - this is exactly what will happen. So I carried fish bottles, including needle fish, in my hand and filled them up to the neck with water. But the same pluckers, sunfish, chebachkov and sticklebacks I brought on a bicycle in half-empty bottles with water bubbling in them, and they survived.

Crabs we live in the South in fresh water, I have now in the aquarium approx. 10 crabs also live in fresh, tap water, but this is not potamony as in the Crimea, and crabs, which are often called "Dutch crabs", they are originally marine, but can live in fresh water. We have elegant palaemones (shrimps) that live in fresh water, and needle fish, and sea acorns, and scallops, and many other animals that live in the sea. And the shrimp that your mother brought-byi some hardy, our palemons would not have survived in such a quantity of water probably. I brought them in 5L cans of 15 individuals And how did they take root and multiply?

As for spinning, it's better to buy something fishy on the spot. Prsoto - extra cargo, hardly impossible, but the point, except to go fishing

I haven't seen any cicadas in person, and I might not realize when I see one. I read about them, what they are-sucking insects, how to keep them at home and feed them - I can't even imagine. Do they live long? How to feed such a beast? And the size of a sparrow is strong, I would only take such an animal for the sake of size, but we need to take measures against its singing. And at what time of year they appear is also a question...

Now I found a steppe dybka in Yandex! Such a beast I will take 100% at the meeting! Thank you very much!

I kept fresh fish for a long time, released them because of the size, mostly the last time - because of a change of direction (herbalist with a minimum of fish). The difficulty of keeping them may be that they do not tolerate contamination of aquarium water and stagnant water.
I don't know how fish feel about transportation in a small amount of water, as they like it, but their survival rate in such an environment is much higher than in a large volume of water. There was no way I could get them home alive in Bolshoy.

I will adapt fish and other marine animals not to fresh water, but to salt water with greater salinity.

Shrimp was brought to me such as in the photo. I don't remember the name. They took root, but did not reproduce (one lived for about 1 year). They liked to jump high, they liked to climb for food in the sea anemone, and they became food themselves. I don't plan to take shrimp. It is very difficult to feed the rest of the animals later, they pull food out of the mouth of sessile anemones. But I would have taken a hedgehog. And someone else-a thread of herbivores, snails, for example.

Spinning will not be an extra load, I love fishing, only recently fishing has degraded into a reason to appear in nature, relax mentally, take pictures.

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Here I found pictures of large cicadas. Where exactly this species comes from - I don't know, but I think that in Turkey not the smallest cicadas, even in our country the size of cicadas is approx. 3cm.

http://static-wtb.cheshirecat.net/wp-conte..._borneo_ben.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/238288842_42f1ae2221.jpg

Cicadas appear in our country from mid-June, and sing until the end of July. It is not very difficult to catch a cicada if it is a grass cicada, and there are also tree cicadas, but they say that very often cicadas are near lanterns, where they can be caught in theory. Maybe they fly to the light, it is necessary to ask entomologists who caught insects in the light of cicado-dangerous planes ) They sing males, the female is harder to find, but we have so many of them in the steppe, so you can find a female just by "feeling" - looking at the grass. I also found larvae under rocks, they have holes in the ground like bears, and they themselves look like a bear. In May, for Turkey, the development of entomofauna is probably equivalent to our June, so in theory there should be imago cicadas, and grasshoppers will not be so small! Even in May, the dybki are already quite large, all the grasshopper larvae are already legoable in the species aspect, and in the expected size. Dybka nasha pravda has a special feature - it has a two-to three-year diapause of eggs-that is, the dybka was deposited - wait two years before the release of young dybok. I have already gone for the second year, maybe by spring someone will hatch It seems that fluctuations in the number of dybok are associated with this, sometimes there are very few of them, sometimes there are a lot of them.

I now also have a vegetable aquarium, but there are also a lot of fish, both mollies and local ones. It's all about a good biofilter, which "burns" all the excess. I have not "siphoned" the soil at all for a year, no fertilizers, osmosis, etc. - everything is as they say, natural. In general, I want the aquarium to be as similar as possible to an independent ecosystem with a minimum of interference.
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By the way, I also go fishing, but mostly during school time I disappeared on the river, now in my free time I prefer to go somewhere in the steppe
But here in an unfamiliar place for fishing.. it is unlikely that you can catch anything, only time will run out, I'm talking about Turkey. Usually they go there for a week, but fishing takes time, and it also turns out that in a forbidden place or in some kind of their ban

These are the "midges" in the first photos! Just geeest!
Entomologists who caught cicadas are not yet visible here. But earlier I was told that it was impossible to keep suckers (tree sap) at home, so I always crossed out cicadas from the list of desired insects, because I don't want to take them to certain death.

The diapause of dyba eggs can be easily reduced to one year with the help of a refrigerator. Place, get for a while and so on until they appear)) More interesting is how to cool it (i.e. put it in the fruit compartment or in the meat storage chamber)? The eggs of our grasshoppers freeze completely, because they had to dig the ground in winter, it is frozen like a stone at 10-20 cm, and they will not be able to lay the laying deeper.
At home, I can find and catch almost anything, even at completely inappropriate times, but in a completely unfamiliar area.... It's scary even to dig in the grass, figs knows who else is found there)) And to distinguish a female of an unfamiliar species from a male is definitely unrealistic. With grasshoppers it is easier, they have an ovipositor present.

In your vegetable aquas, in my opinion, everything seems to be not very OK. The leaves are falling apart at the bottom, the surface is covered, the light does not reach the bottom, everything is beaten by algae.
Naturalism in aquariums is quite difficult to implement, for example, how to achieve incredible ratios of water volume and plant and animal biomass? No way. This is the source of unnaturalism, the reason for its appearance.
Biofilter (aerobic) "burns" organic matter to nitrate. And where does it go next? Save money? Plants with a large number of fish will not cope with it.
Old water is also a problem. Its salinity, elemental composition, and ratio of elements is such that it clearly harms plants for sure. Constant substitutions are required.
I also did not siphon the soil, I deliberately "fouled" it and fertilized it.
If you measure the total salt content in local reservoirs, it turns out that it is less than tap water (I had it that way). To reduce this salinity, osmosis had to be applied. The plants liked it very much.
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And in my free time, when the ground is not covered with snow (about 6 months a year), I take a fishing rod and go to nature. We have no steppe, only a forest. There are also insects.
You will need to read about fishing in Turkey....

There are cicadas in which the imagos do not feed, I do not know for sure, maybe this is generally characteristic of cicadas. Only larvae suck the plant juices of our cicadas. Therefore, the life span of cicadas is very short, a little more than a month, and by the end of the males, apparently having drunk themselves to exhaustion, look as if this is an exuvial skin, and not a live insect. Well, the larvae are hidden in the ground, maybe if you put such a larva and plant the necessary herbs for it, then it will live.
I've also heard such options, but I haven't put them into practice yet. I think that you still need some freezing, but still not strong, in the freezer it's up to-20C, and in nature under the snow at least -3C. A lot of heat from the ground. So not everything is so obvious - it can be very warm in the refrigerator, and very cold in the freezer. So here you need to think before you try. In addition, dybka is a southern resident, for example, our land does not freeze at all, only maybe 5 cm in case of severe frosts with no snow. And so, under the snow-the ground is soft.

By the way, regarding Turkey, you need to study the local acarofauna for infection, and in general-the thing is, there are plenty of parasites there, you can intentionally prvez a couple of human gadfly larvae in the scalp

In my aquarium, of course, there is not that "ideal" type of plant, without algae, with red leaves, developing in dense rows. All this is achieved by softening water and shock doses of trace elements, but I especially don't like this business very much - some people directly worship these "red plants", some kind of glamour) It is similar to the "warm tube sound", associated with commerce and "consumerism". I have in my aquarium about 50 species of plants, about 100 different fish, there is a place for different algae that these fish are happy to eat. I like the aquarium as a dynamic system with its own wilts and development, in which there are many econishes, there is also shallow water where the depth is approx. 4cm, where lileopsis, hemianthus, hydrocotila grows, and dark places with fringe of audoinella, and cryptocorynous thickets. There are ancistruses, mollies, chebachki breeding there, and there is a survival rate of fry, so it's nice to see how some fry have survived and are growing
Naturalness in the aquarium, I believe, can be maintained by using the biofilter concept as a way to create a virtual active space. That is, if without a multi-layer irrigated biofilter the aquarium was 200l, then with it eq. the volume can be about 1000l, which is expressed in the ability of the system to increase loads and stability over time. With nitrates and other good things, algae are spravlyayutsya on the shallows, fields of cyanobacteria, in general, there is someone - I change the water once a month or two 30% - and everything is normal

And we have a climatic winter of 2.5 months, and then, I think that this is terribly long, and now the winter is clearly delayed in our country! It's usually spring starting on the 20th. And we don't have a forest at all. Only plantings and bayram forests in some places ...

A human gadfly?! Wow, that's a little scary. However, Turkey is not Russia, even cattle are kept abroad so that there are no gadflies. Let's hope we don't bring these insects with us))

We have about a meter of snow now. I buried my dog in the winter. It took a very long time to dig up the yielding earth, the layer of frozen earth was about 20 cm.
Last year was a record year, the ground froze to 1.5-2m! The frost in the potato storage pit completely disappeared in early May, and in winter it did not reach the potatoes for a couple of dozen cm.Frosts were such that half-century-old apple trees froze, cherry trees froze completely, even blue firs froze at the factory entrance, the frost was up to -43 and lasted surprisingly long (though a little lower).
Winter 2.5 months is already better than six months. In fact, I haven't lived for six months.

I had not shock, and the minimum dose of parole (garden).
You have aquas, it is clear that a lot!! I had one fresh and one sea, but because of the heat from the lamps (for aquas and plants at home shone more kW of lamps), I had to give up fresh, I regret it, but I can't start it again yet. If when I can start it up again, I'll do what follows the link, but I'll increase the length of the aquas and the number of species, but not 50-that's for sure, you can't put so many beautiful species in the aquas. For me, the beauty of appearance is important, closer to the style of Amano.
The irrigated biofilter is a great thing, complete biofiltration! For a fishmonger, there's nothing better to ask for.
Loricariums were multiplying in my aquas. I found out about this when the fry were already grown up and climbing out. Fish lived their own lives, no one paid much attention to them, the aquarium was for plants.

So the gadfly has nothing to do with cattle. You won't even see it, it's the horseflies that bite. And then-a mosquito will sit down, bite, and that's it, the larva is embedded in the skin, and develops there. Only this is very cruel for Turkey, I think there is such a gadfly only in South America, but in Turkey there are probably also enough "surprises" if you delve into the natural environment and do not sit on the beaches and in the pools.

The "main" aquarium is one I have, the rest are drinkers in terrariums, 20 and 30l. There live shrimps and pluckers. All fish live in the main aquarium. Since last year, I have made cooling by removing heat to the street with two circuits and a cooling tower on the balcony. In general, in the summer we had +37C in our apartment(on the street up to 42C), and in the aquarium +25C (and before it reached 38C) Evaporation in the cooling tower was up to 7L per day. In winter, thanks to these things, for an experiment in one of the 30L aquariums, I lowered the temperature to +10C with tropical plants. All are extinct. And in the big up to 20C - only suspended growth.
And this style of Amano, and his "Natur aquarium from HELL".. A lot of commerce. Aquarium-a painting or landscape of the "something that didn't really happen"type. There is not much acceleration of local fish to keep, the lawn will spoil )))

Turkey, by the way, is also often covered in winter, as I observe on weather maps, there are up to-10C at the bottom of the T when it is cold, but this is so, as an exception. Winter is a forced evil, it is not enough-it does not happen. If it already exists, then a month will be enough to spoil the mood in anticipation of it

I wonder if the rack can be kept several pieces together or strictly separately? They don't sing?
The trees and bushes should probably have large singing grasshoppers with long wings....

Are there any rare plants in Turkey? I'm not talking about lemons, tangerines, and other cultivated plants, but about really interesting and rare types of herbs, trees, and shrubs.

If the apartment was mine, then I would have coped with the cooling in an instant, but alas, I don't have my own living space((

The aquarium from HELL is first of all a living work of art, and this is what it is valued for. It is quite possible to accelerate there. I like verkhovki and loricarii. Both of them in such aquas are paradise. If you run neon, the view will be very cool. The main thing is bigger aquas, so that the flocks are significant.

Winter is evil, and it is much better when this evil is a month, not 6, and without a frost -40 even occasionally, when no shoes will keep warm except for felt boots.

Here on this Turkish forum they discuss strange creatures and there are a couple of photos of grasshoppers (except for snakes that local cats pull out of the bushes )

http://www.turkishliving.com/forums/akbuk-...cts-turkey.html

Here is a photo of Turkish insects (including tsykad, males can be up to 5 cm)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Insects_of_Turkey

Here's about venomous spiders, ticks and others (and photos from the bite on the leg)

http://hubpages.com/hub/Poisonous-and-veno...nakes-in-Turkey

Thanks!
I found another interesting species, probably 100% herbivorous, similar at least.


I don't know any languages other than Russian, to my shame, so I can only look at beautiful and scary pictures.
I'm not going to touch spiders or scolopendras at all, I don't even want to get close to them. I love peaceful insects.
Ticks... how to protect yourself from them? Are they as encephalitic as we are?

Pictured (Acrida ungarica) = Koník stepný ( in Slovat ), I don't understand them at all. And from ticks, probably the same precautions as we have, for me this is an inspection on the surface every hour.

I can't say anything about plants, especially for Turkey. It is better to ask this in the botanical section.
Dybok do not need to be kept together probably, in nature the dybka met me only alone, in addition, our dybka does not need mating, it reproduces parthenogenetically. In Turkey, there can be dybki that have males and females, there are such species. Grasshoppers are probably large in the grasses, you already need to look at this in fact, I'm telling you - in May everything should already be in full swing, and the size of the nymphs will indicate their final size, and you can sort out the species later.
In the picture of acrid, we have quite a lot of acrid too, their size is also not small, probably about 8cm will be, but in general they are frail in themselves. I was much more impressed by the locust, a migratory form - a very large insect! In Turkey, ka kraz should be a desert locust, it also flies to us sometimes - it is just huge ka kdlya locust, it is larger than tettigonia and decticus, it has a slender appearance, and it flies very well, it does not have such a thing as ordinary locusts-it jumped, flew a little and into the grass-it jumped and flew behind horizon

Well, about aquariums like "from HELL"(or from HELL ), beautiful of course, but not natural. Ice beauty, glossy) It's like comparing a real village hut and a modern "eurodom", or a wild steppe, and a lawn near the house

And in winter, we have an extreme minimum of 25C, usually observed for one or two days, very rarely, once every 10 years or less, the usual minimum is 15C, usually observed for 7 days during the winter. It seems to be not -40C, but also abiogenic temperatures. From December to February incl. you can't take a walk on the steppes either, and I don't go winter fishing

This post was edited by Hierophis - 02/24/2011 22: 54

 

By the way, regarding Turkey, you need to study the local acarofauna for infection, and in general-the thing is, there are plenty of parasites there, you can intentionally prvez a couple of human gadfly larvae in the scalp

Do not bully a friend abroad...the borders were invented by people. He will see for himself - there are dandelions blooming under the same sky, birds singing and pooping. But there may be more parasites in the train, which you get to go fishing, than in Turkey.
What should I bring?"it's useless to plan. The experience of any naturalist probably suggests that at any time, the most inopportune time, in the most unexpected place, something can come across that I did not expect.
As for rare plants, they are found almost everywhere where a person has taken a bite...Maybe you should not ask for the whole of Turkey - this is a huge country, and in the specified region, someone can write off what interesting things you can find.
In Turkey, I encountered an unpleasant phenomenon-along roads (hundreds of km!) poles and barbed wire - and behind it Turkish natural resources(. Europe!

Nikolayevich, well, in this case, the borders are climatic, they were not invented by us In Turkey On the north and the spines of plants are prickly, and parasites are more parasitic)))
By the way, about barbed wire is very interesting! And in Europe, they themselves brought down all their forests during industrialization, plowed all the steppes, etched the rivers, and now they are shaking over every crucian carp. Here is Europe!

Check out the reports of our Israeli colleagues in the topic "Fishing Reports". This animal will be in Alanya. At the same time, ask them how and where to catch your objects.

Of course , you upset me with the "thorn". Although, it is also common for us already. Rivers are slowly but surely overgrown with a fence, and the fence goes into the water. I'll still be hoping for luck, but I don't need much: the steppe conic is quite enough.
If the rack can not be kept in a community, then acrid-conics can be, we have acrids live in clusters, I will focus on them. Perhaps the migratory locust will be more interesting, I'll see, then I'll decide. Our "locust" - a large grasshopper that can fly decently-is not always easy to catch during the day, but if the animal flies over the horizon....

I didn't find the topic" Fishing reports"! The search engine returns an error.

We still need to look for how to fish there....)))

Here is the topic with reports.
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=101629
But I don't think it will do anything, the pictures there are beautiful, yes. It is better to collect what comes across on the spot. By the way, yesterday I looked at this area in Google earth, very interesting! You can't compare it with our biotopes, there is overgrowth, the urban zone is very small, there is a peninsula, but the tourist zone is solid on it, although there are also interesting pictures of what is on this peninsula. 5 km in a straight line(and in fact I want more, because there are hills there, but it doesn't matter either) to the north of the center of the urban zone there is an interesting area like woodlands, that's where I would go..
All locusts are very easy to catch in the early morning, then they almost can not fly. And during the day to catch locusts, if there is not a lot of it - almost impossible-it flies away. They love reeds and reeds here, and they sit in the thickets.

And what's on the link http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...00#entry1165883 is this just Ukraine, Khmelnitsky?! Awesome! Furry bronzes, fat crawling "sausages"))) I have seen snakes twice: one alive, the other crushed (this is in nature). Such hotki simply can not be watched, with grief until the summer will not live) Thank you.

This post was edited by alex017 - 25.02.2011 21: 33

Ta nu Khmelnitsky! This is all Israel, Haifa Khmelnitsky to such a state of nature is still not an absolute 2 months plus, and to such biodiversity-a couple of hundred years of global warming

By the way, they say that acrid can be eaten. Like delicious ) Even snakes eat them, here

Yes, they eat locusts. It is necessary to enter in the search engine "akrida" immediately climbs a lot of information about eating))
I wonder what size the snake is? The size of the blacksmith is quite decent and the color is cool. It is necessary to collect such multi-colored ones.
Now we need to think about what exactly to carry, what kind of container to take? Count on a size of 8cm? The container needs such that they can't fight there, they won't crumple.....

Well, I'm also interested, we have flashes of Italian prusa in the steppes, so you can probably mow a bucket with a net for mowing! And in the steppe, far from chemicals and fields.
And the snake is about 60cm long, the acrid with all the protruding ones will probably be 10cm. But if they are there, then they are larvae, by the way, it's hard to find them somehow in larval form, I very rarely found larvae for some reason, and winged ones often come across-they take off. They just jump badly, probably, and they are not noticeable. The filly jumps well and without flying.

The filly jumps like a tank))
Local acrid trees are the largest - about 4 cm. I know how to find them, and I know where they mostly live. I don't think that with a pet about 10cm in size, there will be problems with detection. At the very beginning of summer, I often catch the larvae of our large grasshoppers (when they are still cm long), there is no problem finding them either.
At this age, if you take them, they obviously live at home longer than if you take a large one.
To notice grasshoppers that live in the grass, you need to make sure that they (smaller ones) have appeared in the city (on lawns), wait a week and go out of town somewhere where there were a lot of adults last summer. Well, on your knees on the grass to crawl, looking carefully. They are found quickly, almost instantly. With tree trees (which even in October sing on tall poplars and birches even in our country) it is more difficult. They merge with young leaves, you need more luck here, you need to choose a fishing place more carefully, and look not on the bushes, but on the grass. Small they still sit on the grass, and then climb higher and higher (this saves them from frost in the fall). In hot weather, they still crawl, you can see... The trick has been successful more than once, but it's harder to contain them.

But they will probably be larvae in May, the size will be smaller.
I've been collecting grasshopper larvae like this since early spring, so I have to sit on the ground and look out. But then, when the grass rises, it is more difficult, and somehow it is grasshoppers that come across, locusts hide. Or they come out later. In Turkey, there will probably be grass too.
In general, interseno, what will happen there, and then you will write what happened after the trip?

Of course I will write! I'm not taking a lot of animals for the insectarium, but I'm going to take at least 16gb of photos of these animals and plants!)) Well, there is also a native card from fotik for 4GB, if 16GB is not enough.
Just wait until May 6! Just an eternity....

By the way, I invite you to visit Turkey together, if your interests coincide! A ticket at this time is quite cheap, around 15-16tr for a 4* hotel, I got a little cheaper (they gave me a discount). If you want more details, please write to your personal account! It's easier and more interesting to search together!

In general, it's not really expensive, but if you think about it, you should still take twice as much money, and then, at the very minimum, it's expensive The crisis is in full swing here.

July, Bitlis province

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It's a pity that you don't understand the size of the animal. It looks like a hole, too, but the color is different.

This is the same genus Saga, with several species in Asia Minor. In size-no less than ours. Keep in mind that they are most likely not parthenogenetic.

hefty fat creatures of 20-25 cm. In the photo, in my opinion, there was a specimen of 20 centimeters, with an ovipositor counting. larger ones popped up closer to dusk, didn't work out in the photo. Males and females are approximately equally divided. I took a pair-a male and a female, I chose a smaller one ;-) to fit on the layer ; -)
I carried it in my hands, because the stains and the water bottle were already clogged with beetles. Yes, it was a nice place...