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16.03.2012 16:35, MIV

He's already taken 3 dogs there. There are his very trails. And a leopard. And a bear. frown.gif



That's it! And I'll have a parrot. smile.gif Photos of the tracks were taken the next day, after Sergey Kunitsin told the story of how a tiger attacked a motorcyclist. I somehow missed this message, and when I showed Sergey the pictures, it turned out that everything happened on this road.
And on a horse farm located not far from Zanadvorovka, in the same year the tiger did a good job. Sergey told the same story.
And it was in June 2008
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16.03.2012 16:50, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well, according to the law, everyone should be incited, including "scientists". Everyone should get permission to catch insects from the Committee of Natural Resources of Primorsky Krai (now, in my opinion, in Gosokhotnadzor). That's what they told me once. You can actually get permission. I hope that the person who wrote it above has it, and the desire to stand out from the rest is justified.

But nevertheless, this does not give the right to recommend that the main participants wave something (this is tram rudeness). Yes, and hiding cowardly under the nickname "Guest" (that's why I designated it). Truly: "Anonymous is worse than a faggot" (© kotbegemot) and it is necessary to drive such people in the neck.
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16.03.2012 17:13, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

The suggestion that only authorized users can write on the forum has already been discussed. And the who is still there. Or does the engine not allow it?
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16.03.2012 18:15, Hierophis

Guest login has been the policy of this site since time immemorial!
And who doesn't like it - that cowardly philistine who is afraid to hear the TRUTH-uterus wink.gif

Many people are simply afraid to tell it, the truth, because they are in the system, adherents of the system-they will not appreciate it, they will turn away, they will stop recognizing it there, they will complain. What can you do - swamp smile.gif

16.03.2012 18:24, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Guest login has been the policy of this site since time immemorial!
And who doesn't like it - that cowardly philistine who is afraid to hear the TRUTH-uterus wink.gif

Many people are simply afraid to tell it, the truth, because they are in the system, adherents of the system-they will not appreciate it, they will turn away, they will stop recognizing it there, they will complain. What can you do - swamp smile.gif


Back from school? Did you do your homework? You need to study well, otherwise they won't take you to the" system". You will have to remain proud, independent, and out-of-system all your life.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 03/16/2012 18: 27

16.03.2012 18:45, Hierophis

Not Nada fairy tales to tell smile.gifSo that they took the system, the main thing is to be able to drink, well, to know-with whom(this is the main nuance).
Learn well, do your homework, no one believes in it.
Zabuhal with whom you need, and that's it, you're in the system. So here's the deal.

And anonymous wrote it correctly.
Yes, compared to what they write about all sorts of "vip-hunts" of very big uncles, catching insects is garbage. But the essence is about the same. Both here and there - animals die for fun, even the analogy with trophy stuffed animals is suitable! In fact, the extraction of insects is a mini-hunt, only without natural exhaust, in the case of "real" hunting or fishing - trophies can be eaten - this is the primary meaning of hunting, and insects.. well budt lie in boxes smile.gif
Fees for research robots... yes fairy tales are everything in most cases smile.gif

16.03.2012 19:43, Wild Yuri

Fees are included in the collection, so the world around you is documented: where everything flew when. Taxonomy. Zoogeography. The damage from fishing is small-cars on the roads of Primorye beat thousands (tens of thousands of times!) more insects than entomologists catch. Let's not be hypocritical. No need for childhood.
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16.03.2012 20:54, captolabrus

Here are the D'Artagnans. Another member near the muzzle wave.
It is necessary to incite the relevant authorities against such purveyors of coastal nature, although if someone is killed by a tiger or bear, we will not worry much either.

Why, you are a cad and a coward! Wish me to be maimed by seaside animals, cattle-fight your name from now on!
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16.03.2012 20:55, Hierophis

Wild Yuri, about the damage-yes, a weighty argument, and in principle the main one. Although, then why not think so-yes, what kind of weather does that bottle that I will now throw out on the street do-after all, hundreds of them are thrown out from the balcony of the neighboring house every day wink.gif

And note that you have listed the anthropogenic factors-cars on the roads, various lights, and indeed many other factors, but you understand that these factors are not selective, they work more to eliminate animals that have a mass population. And in the case of catching, there is selectivity and purposefulness.

It's just that it's not popular, so the real harm even from electionality is unlikely to be the case. But only because it's not popular. And I would imagine what you and others would say if entomology became popular and the same authorities sent thousands of collectors to search for the rarest species in your Primoryewink.gif, so popularizing butterfly collecting is essentially a delicate task wink.gif

As for hypocrisy-I think the belief that the collections will replenish some scientific collections is hypocrisy.

I didn't understand about my childhood at all, but what about my childhood-I just turned 6 years old-immediately to work, orbiten on Stakhanovki? ))))

16.03.2012 20:57, Hierophis

captolabrus, tinplate))))))) During the whole process, you can guess who this guest smile.gifis

16.03.2012 21:13, vasiliy-feoktistov

captolabrus, tinplate))))))) During the whole process, you can guess who this guest is smile.gif

Did you guess? I can't recognize anyone from this forum by their style. In my opinion, just a passerby who has seen enough of zomboyashchik and, accordingly, an absolute zero in matters of environmental protection.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 16.03.2012 21: 13
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16.03.2012 21:23, Hierophis

It's just that there are no passers-by here.

Environmental protection? I haven't heard a more sanctimonious term ))) Environmental protection from whom? from a human? By humans? Nude nude smile.gif

16.03.2012 21:33, vasiliy-feoktistov

  
Environmental protection? I haven't heard a more sanctimonious term ))) Environmental protection from whom? from a human? By humans? Nude nude smile.gif

That's exactly people who misunderstandingly think that the main scourge for insects is an entomologist. And these same "defenders" thoughtlessly destroy the same insects in whole populations by building cottages, residential buildings, organizing landfills: then you can list them indefinitely. I myself know a lot of such examples in my area.
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16.03.2012 21:39, captolabrus

Once I was catching butterflies in a grove not far from home in Tver, and a group of drunken, culturally vacationing individuals loudly commented on the harm to butterflies from such things as "This one with a net", months passed, and the butterflies began to disappear, my God, I destroyed them, selfish egoist! So I probably should have thought, but looking at how instead of various grasses, trampled bald spots turn black, how each lowland is filled with cultural waste and feces mixed with vomit, I was glad that my children would at least see in boxes what was once common in blooming glades! Namely, butterflies! Not a mass-produced garbage dump! Let's remember the young degenerative neurasthenics arranging torches from beer bottles emptied by them and setting fire to everything that can be set on fire, as living creatures, lizards, caterpillars probably writhe in the flame, all soil living organisms wintering in the deciduous layer, etc. are fried. Gobbled it up! I don't even know how to react at all, probably calmly, which I wish everyone, otherwise the passions are painfully heated.
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16.03.2012 21:49, Hierophis

Oh, the horror, captolabrus, something you really quite limp, well, this is already too much)) Gest just made a "throw-in", so that everyone got a little gnawed, why get so upset )))) Well, in the end, the tiger has every right to devour you. You seem to give yourself the right to catch butterflies, especially new and unusual ones in Primorye, so why shouldn't the Primorye tiger also want to eat something new, for a change? wink.gif
And then straight apocalyptic went-well, if the butterflies will remain only in boxes, then I don't think it will help anyone much. Children of that time are unlikely to be interested in butterflies, in the iron-electronic world wink.gif

16.03.2012 22:31, captolabrus

Let them be, they will be. but to diversify the tiger's menu, of course the homo erectus population will not suffer, but here my personality fundamentally disagrees beer.gif

16.03.2012 22:35, ulik

Related: no one wants to take a walk in the mountainous Crimea? Approximately the beginning of April...it's a bit boring to be alone."..

16.03.2012 22:36, ulik

The Baidar Valley is the most attractive in this regard)
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16.03.2012 23:31, Hierophis

ulik, why is it so early, in April there are still very few people who will send it.

17.03.2012 3:02, Coelioxys

Wow))) I just liked it about D'Artagnan wink.gif
And here such a mess was brewed. Yes, come all who want, the main thing is not to forget to take off your glasses later, otherwise there were cases when it rained on the day of departure, I don't want to get wet, the places are not my own, when we are still here, let the bug die.
In the Far East, Primorye, of course, is far from the most dangerous place for bears, but it's not much fun to meet them, and all the former bravado instantly flows down your pants wink.gif
In general, ticks and cottonmouths cause much more trouble in Primorye than bears and tigers, although they cannot be excluded. Nothing prevents a tiger from meeting you 1001 times, even if you have been walking 1000 times in the same places for 20 years.
Have a good field season!
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17.03.2012 8:01, captolabrus

And I wasn't going to leave the glasses behind, and I wasn't going to poke the bears with syringes, but such a fierce reaction of an incognito visitor, and even with insults and threatening wishes, is at least not human!

17.03.2012 10:41, Hierophis

Yes, ticks are a real danger! captolabrus-for the record, it's worth thinking about!
And cottonmouds - they would be the purpose of my trip there, if it was))) Not to catch of course, but to see how the horses live, well, even Amur runners, AMUR RUNNERS!!! That's really cool! smile.gif

In general, something evil is all here, but in vain, the diving cyclone is leaving, instead of it there is not even spring - summer!!! We have today already in the morning +7!
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17.03.2012 10:49, vasiliy-feoktistov

On tick-borne encephalitis: http://bioprotect.pro/node/4
This will not frighten us, and even more so captolabrus (the whole Kostroma region is affected) beer.gif
Yes, and in the Moscow region, too, in many cases, I sometimes remove ticks from myself and am still alive smile.gif
No, bullshit: don't get used to it.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 17.03.2012 12: 32
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17.03.2012 10:51, niyaz

ulik, and why is it so early, in April, very few people will come.

apparently invites you to the opening of the season.

17.03.2012 14:16, Victor Titov

Here are the D'Artagnans. Another member near the muzzle wave.
It is necessary to incite the relevant authorities against such purveyors of coastal nature, although if someone is killed by a tiger or bear, we will not worry much either.

  During the whole process, you can guess who this guest is smile.gif


Really. Analyze, my friends, analyze...

It's just that there are no passers-by here.

Guest login has been the policy of this site since time immemorial!
And who doesn't like it - that cowardly philistine who is afraid to hear the TRUTH-uterus wink.gif

  
And anonymous wrote it correctly.

...why not think so-yes, what kind of weather does that bottle that I will now throw out on the street do-after all, hundreds of them are thrown out from the balcony of the neighboring house every day wink.gif
..I would imagine what you and others would say if entomology became popular and the same authorities sent thousands of collectors to search for the rarest species in your Primorye wink.gifregion, so popularizing butterfly collecting is essentially a delicate task wink.gif

  Gest just made a "throw-in" so that everyone would have a little squabble...
Well, in the end, the tiger has every right to devour you. It's as if you give yourself the right to catch butterflies, especially new and unusual ones in Primorye, so why shouldn't the Primorye tiger want to eat something new, too, for a change? wink.gif


In my opinion, comments are unnecessary.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 17.03.2012 14: 19
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17.03.2012 14:42, Hierophis

Dmitrich, you are a loser, since it wasn't me, of course, you will allow yourself to think about your high investigative professionalism, but this time you screwed up.
Okay, this is a forum, and I don't care about your attempts to expose your enemies in a black light, and I could go to court, for klyavyatu wink.gif
And again, okay, this is just your forum unsubstantiated chatter, and how many innocent victims of justice ... how many skeletons are there in the lockers? wink.gif

17.03.2012 14:55, Victor Titov

Dmitrich, ...I don't care about your attempts to put your enemies in a black light...

For the information of dear forumchan: I hope it is obvious to everyone that the provocateur is deluded: he still has to dream and dream about growing up to the high rank of my enemy: remember how Dolsky: "I thirst for bigger enemies, in my teeth and in my mind."
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17.03.2012 15:07, Hierophis

"Provocateur" xD

Yes, you, Dmitrich, straight Dartagnan! In short, we have things here of cosmic proportions, the transition to the planetary level, and I write all sorts of garbage here)))

17.03.2012 15:14, Victor Titov

Here are the D'Artagnans...

  
Yes, you, Dmitrich, straight Dartagnan!

Again a random match lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif
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17.03.2012 15:41, Pavel Morozov

to captolabrus":
Speaking of the tiger.
If you are interested in the Amur tiger and the Far Eastern leopard, then I recommend reading the book by zoologist Mikhail Kretschmar "Striped cat, spotted cat" about the relationship of humans with these cats, in particular in the conditions of the Far East. The author believes that there are actually more of these animals than is officially considered. But that doesn't make it any easier for a tiger and a leopard.
It turns out that the most dangerous enemy of the tiger is not a thug poacher who likes to get into the Himalayan bear, tiger, and sika deer, but a simple resident of a village located in the habitats of a striped cat. Moreover, the enemy is involuntary. Moreover, due to the lack of food supply, the tiger will simply have to, also involuntarily, go into villages and hunt cattle.
So, imagine that a tiger in some village began to bully cattle, drag dogs (which are a delicacy for him and the leopard), and began to catch the eyes of residents more and more often. Such a beast is dangerous, and the villagers will have no choice but to deal with the "tiger" themselves.
And they will be dealt with in the following way-using a loop and bait. The bait will serve as a person's best friend-a dog that is tied up in the taiga. Next to it, a loop is attached, which should get a tiger tempted by a dog, and a crossbow is placed. Then it's a matter of technique.
The tiger carcass usually just stays in the taiga.
Obviously, this barbaric method of hunting is doubly dangerous for the person himself.
Hence the conclusion: a dog barking in the taiga wilderness should make you wary, because there is a chance:
- to get yourself shot by a crossbow, in an attempt to approach a poor dog
- to be attacked by the tiger itself, trapped, wounded, capable of finishing a person with one throw
- to be nose to nose with a tiger that may be somewhere-then close by.

And one more thing: the main food of the tiger is large ungulates. Attacking a person for food is the fate of a sick, crippled, exhausted animal that is not able to fill up a raisin or wild boar.
An attack is usually provoked by a person in one way or another. Whether it's a poacher's bullet, whether it's a radio transmitter around the neck worn by scientists. Such tigers are now the majority. Tiger is a cat, but he won't shit in his sneakers. He'll have another conversation.

Perhaps relations with the tiger will be better if everyone treats him like the Udege people, in particular, Dersu Uzala, who said that "Ambu should not be shot".

To summarize, there are not many chances to meet a tiger. There are not many of them, only a few hundred in Primorye. And the tiger itself does not want to meet with an entomologist, a zoologist, a hunter, or any other person.
To be afraid of tigers, ticks, cottonmouds - do not go to Primorye!
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17.03.2012 17:34, ulik

ulik, and why is it so early, in April, very few people will come.

Early??? I think it's just right...

17.03.2012 17:39, ulik

apparently invites you to the opening of the season.

Only without any associations (given the Slavic mentality)))

20.03.2012 20:54, Seneka

Fees are included in the collection, so the world around you is documented: where everything flew when. Taxonomy. Zoogeography. The damage from fishing is small-cars on the roads of Primorye beat thousands (tens of thousands of times!) more insects than entomologists catch. Let's not be hypocritical. No need for childhood.

That's for sure. I've been to the Khabarovsk Territory twice, where there are so many butterflies, dragonflies, and other animals shot down along the roads! Maak's sailboats were particularly pitiful. Twenty or twenty - five years ago, the forest was completely cut down and exported to China. Moreover, not all of it is taken out, so it has been lying on the cuttings for years. All this is done with the knowledge of local authorities and other regulatory authorities. An army of entomologists will not be able to cause such harm to nature as the "defenders" who have reached power can do.

This post was edited by Seneka - 03/20/2012 21: 16
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20.03.2012 21:55, ystinov64

beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif Hello foremchyane. There are plans to travel by car along the route: Moscow-Ufa-Chelyabinsk-Orenburg-Penza-Moscow. Looking for a companion. I've been interested in entomology for a long time. Driving alone is boring. The route is 4000 km long and lasts approximately 20 days, depending on the number of stops. If anyone is interested, write to the post office.

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21.03.2012 10:40, Aleksandr Safronov

...and I write all sorts of garbage here)))

Self-critical, well done. Everyone already knows that. Order of the Chatterbox of the first degree for trolling!
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21.03.2012 11:59, Nikolaj Pichugin

Another random coincidence lol.gif  lol.gif  lol.gif

No, Dmitritch, you're wrong! Maybe they think the same way, but they were written by different people. At least the guest writes without errors, but this one ... Hierophis makes four mistakes in three words. Indeed, it would not hurt to teach lessons better than to write any heresy, and even illiterate!

21.03.2012 12:01, Nikolaj Pichugin

  beer.gif  beer.gif  beer.gif Hello foremchyane. There are plans to travel by car along the route: Moscow-Ufa-Chelyabinsk-Orenburg-Penza-Moscow. Looking for a companion. I've been interested in entomology for a long time. Driving alone is boring. The route is 4000 km long and lasts approximately 20 days, depending on the number of stops. If anyone is interested, write to the post office.

Great offer, if I had the time, I would love to go!

21.03.2012 19:06, Victor Titov

No, Dmitritch, you're wrong! Maybe they think the same way, but they were written by different people. At least the guest writes without errors, but this one ... Hierophis makes four mistakes in three words. Indeed, it would not hurt to teach lessons better than to write any heresy, and even illiterate!

Without fear of being accused of being suspicious, I will suggest: maybe this is such a secret move - to create the illusion of different authorship at the expense of literacy? They really think one - on-one!

21.03.2012 19:33, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Without fear of being accused of being suspicious, I will suggest: maybe this is such a secret move - to create the illusion of different authorship at the expense of literacy? They really think one - on-one!


Sorry, it's hard to agree with you. If a literate person can write deliberately illiterate, then illiterate-correctly? You can, of course, assume that someone with higher marks is sitting next to him and editing the text?

21.03.2012 19:40, Victor Titov

Sorry, it's hard to agree with you. If a literate person can write deliberately illiterate, then illiterate-correctly? You can, of course, assume that someone with higher marks is sitting next to him and editing the text?

"a literate person can write deliberately illiterate" - that's right! There's only one person! The appearance on the site of various provocative, to put it mildly, surveys on behalf of an anonymous person at the same time as related posts in other topics is also a confirmation of my assumption.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 21.03.2012 19: 46
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