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Yakovlev, 27.10.2012 9:44

Here is a list of articles in the VAKOV journal "Vestnik Veterinarii". Is this a joke?
http://elibrary.ru/author_items.asp?authorid=508931

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27.10.2012 9:50, Dmitrii Musolin

It's a nightmare, if that's true... Roman, please send a letter to the chairman of the Higher Attestation Commission... and the Minister of Education right away (just need to check) ...

27.10.2012 9:58, Hierophis

Hahahahahah +500!!!
That's right, that's exactly what it should be, not like all sorts of sad satyas purely for the sake of increasing points and increasing mammon profit

Actually, the full collection is here
http://elibrary.ru/org_items.asp?orgsid=5226

27.10.2012 10:38, Dmitry Vlasov

And here is the website of the yellow Vestnik http://www.vestvet.narod.ru/
For the lazy, quotes from information for readers... "Since our journal provides the authors of scientific articles with sufficient freedom in interpreting the results of their experiments, the opinion of the editorial board does not always coincide with the opinion of the authors of articles, and the latter are fully responsible for the reliability of published information and the effectiveness of the proposed measures" " By presenting the journal, we testify that no article of it bears malicious intent or deliberate the authors ' desire to misinform readers or harm livestock production in our country. And if there is something in the articles that at first glance seems absurd, contrary to common sense or the experience of previous generations, then readers always have at least three ways to react:

- ignore it without noticing it;

- not believing, try;

- outraged, express everything to the author on the pages of our magazine, so that others would not be allowed to publish any heresy!"

Signed "Editor-in-Chief V. M. Sakhno"

The most interesting thing is that the articles of Kartashov and his associates are in the section: "...and maybe not a joke "

27.10.2012 12:46, Yakovlev

Yeah...
"The image of being chosen by most of our authors, whose essential link is the study of the objective world, its laws, with the aim of maximally comfortable adaptation of their fellow tribesmen in it, has no alternative but to publicize the results of research and experiments, but how to convey incredibly important, highly relevant, absolutely up-to-date information obtained (or received) "to the city and the world"- members of a very (or not so) narrow circle of like-minded people, simply interested or leading in this sector of social space-is determined only by the true goals of the next publication (in which not all of us admit even to ourselves...).
And our magazine, realizing its insignificant role as an intermediary (medium, mediator) in transformation industry information flows, and will try to communicate to as many readers as possible, in the most adapted and understandable form, the results of your scientific achievements, your suggestions for improving security and improving the conditions of our existence in this world "

27.10.2012 12:50, Yakovlev

Abstract of one of the Vakov articles (as you can see, the works of m-Orion are also quoted, apparently from the Vakov edition). It all looks like a very bad joke. More precisely, the system of jokes:
ANIKEI GORGON Biofield
N. I. Kurtseva, G. V. Kartashov, A. G. Andreeva
Keywords: biofield, electromagnetic waves, Gorgon

Some biopolar features of the surface layers of the Gorgon planet of the star Anikeia are described, with a description of the animal features of representatives of one species. Bibl. 5. Fig. 1.
LITERATURE. 1. Kro-o-pos. Gorgon – a living organism / / Proceedings of m-Orion. 2009. pp. 63-67. 2. Sno-o-pos. Power lines of the Gorgon / / Proceedings of m-Orion. 2009. pp. 70-72. 3. http://www.allabin.com/info/magnetdefi.htm. 4.http://metamir.wpdom.com/emf.php. 5. http://www.epochtimes.ru/content/view/30333/7.

GORGON PLANET BIOLOGICAL FIELD
KURTSEVA, Nadezhda I., scientific employee, Laboratory for research of nonstandard natural phenomena (LINYAP), Kiltezh, Candidate of Cosmic Zoology

KARTASHOV Gennady V., chief pathomorphologist, LINYAP

ANDREEVA Anzhelika G., scientific employee, LINYAP

Keywords: biological field, electromagnetic waves, Gorgon

Summary. The biofield characteristic properties of the non-existent planet Gorgon of the aster Anikeya were investigated. The features of fantastic animals were described. Ref. 5.Ill. 1.

BIBLIOGRAPHIC REFERENCES. 1. Kro-o-pos. The Gorgon is a living organism // Proceedings of the m-Orion. 2009. P. 63-67. 2. Sno-o-pos. Field lines of the Gorgon// Proceedings of the m-Orion. 2009. P. 70-72. 3. http://www.allabin.com/info/magnetdefi.htm. 4. http://metamir.wpdom.com/emf.php. 5. http://www.epochtimes.ru/content/view/30333/7.

27.10.2012 13:27, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

For autotrophic brontosaurus ask as much as 202 rubles (pdf).

27.10.2012 18:44, Hierophis

Yakovlev and Musolin, urgently write to sportloto about this!

27.10.2012 20:51, Dracus

I suspect an analog of Grubber. If so, I consider the joke a success.

27.10.2012 21:07, headshotboy

Somewhere still alive are the books "Physicists joke" and "Physicists continue to joke" - brilliant collections of scientific humor.

IMHO, these materials are intended primarily for careful trolling of researchers who are ready to argue hoarsely on problems sucked out of their fingers - almost always participants in such "discussions" are as serious as sheep in front of the new gate, and any hint of irony is perceived as horror, an attempt on shrines and a shock to the foundations.

Moreover, many of these researchers are recognized and authoritative figures in their fields.

I will not give any references - but on this resource, this is also, hmm, kagbe is not uncommon shuffle.gif

A wonderful example of accurate, competent and very useful trolling - without which the scientific community simply suffocates from its own seriousness...

27.10.2012 21:17, Лавр Большаков

But in my opinion, this is just the work of a very "non-standard" science fiction writer. Someone writes science-fiction stories in their special collections, someone in the "Technique of Youth", someone in "Science and Life", and here - the original scientific name of the collection. And of course, you don't need to send it to the Ministry of Health and the Higher Attestation Commission - if you don't want them to laugh at you there.

28.10.2012 13:50, Dmitrii Musolin

All this was simply ridiculous, if people after publishing in such a Murzilka did not consider their articles "VAK", would not go to the defense and would not apply for places in dissertation councils, etc.

If someone took the trouble to write to the Higher Attestation Commission, I would support them.

Let Murzilka live, but she does not belong on the list that graduate students are guided by...
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28.10.2012 16:42, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

If it's a joke, it's a bad one. Let me remind you that the publication of "korchevatel" initially had the task of demonstrating the level of Vakov's"murzilka".

28.10.2012 17:35, Лавр Большаков

28.10.2012 18:35, Hierophis

Lavr Bolshakov, have you not even looked at the magazine, like the armchair scientists who have settled down? wink.gif
All these articles go under the heading "physicists are joking", which has nothing to do with the main table of contents.

It's just that our fighters for the cleanliness of the feeder have apparently not found another victim who needs to be smashed to smithereens in the topic about author's abstracts, and meanwhile the temperature outside is getting lower and lower, it's cold, the sun is not enough, anger is eating)))))
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28.10.2012 18:37, AGG

A very convenient platform, a dozen or two articles and you are a doctor of crypto - or astro - biology and go to RENTV or NTV to mow down the loot beer.gif jump.gif
PS no one has any new points on big-eared slug-like tits from Betta Cerconia, until the article is sent to the printing house?

This post was edited by AGG - 28.10.2012 18: 43

28.10.2012 19:37, Shtil

It is still necessary to find magazines and read how the greenies grunt on Betelgeuse smile.gifIn any case, for the Vakov edition such miracles are not allowed to put it mildly... In general, it reminded me of such things:

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28.10.2012 19:57, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

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If there are articles, then this is a genre of SF, and if someone goes to defend themselves on them, it will only be in this specific area of literature. Since not even the most senile and corrupt dissertation council in the field of medical and biological sciences is (YET!) he won't miss it for anything.


Are you sure? I have recently become quite pessimistic - the level of idiocy of our bureaucrats cannot be exaggerated.

28.10.2012 21:35, Лавр Большаков

It's good that students have a sense of humor. It would be worse if they seriously brought the teacher a real animal that he is studying, with a fake "sensational" label
, but if they are really on the VAKOV list and so joke themselves (and not someone under them), then they are not afraid - either they bought a place there, or they have a famous patron.

29.10.2012 11:07, Pirx

It's a pleasure to start the week with a great start! "An interesting undertaking, by the way."Iskander

29.10.2012 17:40, scar

Wow!
About twelve years ago, I came across an article in the Stavropol (I think) collection, something like "on feeding birds with condom contents". Long before the grubber.
And how many "unique" beetles from spare parts were glued together at one time... Now even a little sorry for the effort spent, but it was fun.
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29.10.2012 18:35, Shtil

Birds and condoms! This is amazing!

29.10.2012 18:46, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

As I was told, the cand was successfully protected. dissertation on the behavior of birds during capture, "psychological types" were distinguished: "screamers", "silent ones", etc., etc.

After my friend suggested that the list should be supplemented with "grays" to better cover the diversity of bird behavior during capture, the dissertation student, for some reason, stopped greeting him.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 10/29/2012 18: 49
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29.10.2012 19:22, Shtil

And if you think about science, but in Latin, in general, beauty is "Avis defaecatio"!

29.10.2012 22:11, Kharkovbut

As I was told, the cand was successfully protected. dissertation on the behavior of birds during capture, "psychological types" were distinguished: "screamers", "silent ones", etc., etc.

After my friend suggested that the list should be supplemented with "grays" to better cover the diversity of bird behavior during capture, the dissertation student, for some reason, stopped greeting him.
It is necessary to write a dissertation on the behavior of dissertants during capture... on the inadequacy of their dissertations. Here is the first material! tongue.gif
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30.10.2012 17:40, scar

Someone, like Kirill Makarov, said that some potential graduate student came to him.
"Hello," I said. I would like to specialize here.
"Good! What would you like to do?
"Ground beetles!
"Very good! And more specifically?
"I'd like to study ground beetle morals!
.............
-Ground beetles are such immoral creatures, you know... Perhaps you should choose a different supervisor...
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31.10.2012 12:59, Yakovlev

If you smile a little - I remember one article (I pass the name from memory) - features of the vocalization of ground squirrels in various types of crushers. It is noteworthy that the article was published in the Bulletin of the Moscow Island of Nature Testers (!). smile.gif.
And I don't think the situation with the bulletin of veterinary medicine is funny - it's either pohuism or madness.

31.10.2012 16:59, scar

No, just a joke. And for people who are "serious" about E-library: take a closer look. Humor differs from science in the column "article type". If it says "scientific article" - you can (and should!) be indignant. And if "miscellaneous" - smile: -)

31.10.2012 18:30, Pirx

I think it's all true. There, by the way, a search for authors gives excellent innovative articles. TISSUE TRANSFER BETWEEN CREATURES FROM DIFFERENT PLANETS
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31.10.2012 21:29, Kharkovbut

Death leads to a significant distortion of the macro-and microstructures of the hare-epsilon. The most optimal approach is to study live material. ©

I believe that this is also typical for ordinary Lepus... tongue.gif

31.10.2012 22:05, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

No, just a joke. And for people who are "serious" about E-library: take a closer look. Humor differs from science in the column "article type". If it says "scientific article" - you can (and should!) be indignant. And if" different " - smile :-)


IMHO, there are too many such "articles" for fun. When there's a lot of it, it's not funny. In addition, the text is unavailable. Well, I won't pay 202 rubles for 3 pages of such a pdf. It seems that it is easy to invent delusional names, but it is difficult to write meaningful text. What's the point, then?

Very interesting texts can be written in different forms, remember the "Cyberiad". But you need to be a Lem to do this.
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01.11.2012 8:55, scar

One article per issue. Fictitious surnames of authors, fictitious organization. Readers of the bulletin will be relieved after studying the problems of the oplod in elephants. So not so much.
The fact that for money - so can people just because of this category and subscribe to the Bulletin of Veterinary Medicine; -) By the way, it will be necessary in the library to see if it is readable at all ;- )
But seriously , when you mark up an issue of a magazine for E-library, you enter everything that is in the table of contents. The option "I will submit these articles, but not these ones" is not encouraged, to put it mildly. I think it's clear why. Except to advise the developers of the program to add the category "humor" to the "article type"fields...
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01.11.2012 11:01, vtosha

I definitely don't see the problem. Physicists are joking, but biologists can't, right? There is a warning that this is a joke.
In biology Olympiads, there are a lot of questions about musicals from the planet Bryak, and no one complains.
And that articles are not available - well, with Russian-language articles, there are always such huge problems. It certainly doesn't depend on the log.

01.11.2012 12:12, Macroglossum

I definitely don't see the problem. Physicists are joking, but biologists can't, right? There is a warning that this is a joke.
In biology Olympiads, there are a lot of questions about musicals from the planet Bryak, and no one complains.
And that articles are not available - well, with Russian-language articles, there are always such huge problems. It certainly doesn't depend on the log.

No, in the current state of biology, such jokes are like dancing with a tambourine on the lid of a coffin... Physicists may joke that they split the atom back in the early 30s

01.11.2012 18:07, Hierophis

No, in the current state of biology, such jokes are like dancing with a tambourine on the lid of a coffin... Physicists can joke that they split the atom back in the early 30s

That's probably the current state of biology and that's why it's like this lol.gif
I see a lot of people with very serious expressions on their faces.. doing baaaalshuyu science ))))

01.11.2012 21:20, Vorona

You guys are boring tongue.gif
No, it is clear that this habit has already become ingrained-to see a catch in everything. But sometimes a cucumber is just a cucumber.
What, no one had" Biologist's Days", or what? With jokes of this kind... shuffle.gif
But you don't have access - so you have access to a lot of things in the e-library? If the institute has paid for access (or who pays for it, we have no such joy, I don't know), then to a limited number of journals.
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01.11.2012 21:27, lepidopterolog

  
But you don't have access - so you have access to a lot of things in the e-library? If the institute has paid for access (or who pays for it, we have no such joy, I don't know), then to a limited number of journals.

www.sci-hub.org rulit smile.gif

02.11.2012 8:01, Лавр Большаков

No, in the current state of biology, such jokes are like dancing with a tambourine on the lid of a coffin... Physicists can joke that they split the atom back in the early 30s


Compared to the jokes of physicists, the jokes of biologists are just child's play. Physicists make jokes with a serious face, often in the media (not to mention VAKOV journals), at the level of professors and even academicians. It is from their submission that we read about extraterrestrials (how many people were infected, morally fucked up!), teleportations, wormholes, and much,much more. And the biologists didn't come up with anything like that, except that they supported the fairy tale about Nessie. That's when they seriously talk about it - it's bad, quackery at the state level, if they ask for grants for searches - then direct embezzlement of the treasury. And when the SF story is written by a specialist, it turns out to be more plausible, more interesting to read.

02.11.2012 9:40, Pirx

www.sci-hub.org rules smile.gif


already a problem, for example, with the Zoological Journal smile.gif

02.11.2012 9:55, vtosha

Russian-language magazines don't quack so easily frown.gif
"Batman could see information from Mossad, Interpol, Surte, etc. He did not have access only to Soviet secret documents. But this was due to the imperfection of Soviet technology. No computer program is capable of opening a locked desk drawer." (c) Some book of the 90's.
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