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Saddy, 04.09.2018 16:19

Hello! I am looking for an expert entomologist who could comment for the newspaper "Podmoskovye Segodnya" on the information about the common hummingbird butterfly discovered in the Moscow region.
"Ecologists of the Verkhovye Nature Protection Fund, who monitor rare species of flora and fauna commissioned by the Ministry of Ecology, have recorded in the Shatura city district a large star – shaped moth, or common yazykan, a rare moth from the group of hawkmoths listed in the Red Book of the Moscow Region. "The last time this species was discovered on the territory of the Moscow region was more than 40 years ago, but it was first recorded in the region in the second half of the XIX century."

You need an expert opinion that answers the question:
"The value of this species?"
- Is yazykan rare only in the Moscow region or in Russia as a whole?
- Does this species need special measures to protect it?

I will be grateful for the answer, you can also write here ** * @inbox.ru

This post was edited by Saddy-13.11.2018 15: 29

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04.09.2018 20:52, Nemov

Will there be a fee smile.gif?
*****
I'll tell you for free that:
- such terms as" hummingbird butterfly "and" starfish " should not be used even in the tabloid press;
- why 40 years ago??? The species is observed almost annually in the Moscow region and in some years often.
- it has no value.
- in the south of Russia, it is one of the most popular types.
- it is absolutely impossible and stupid to protect it, because it is a migrant from the south, flying anywhere and unable to tolerate the Moscow frosts.
And what, ecologists from Verkhovye don't know these platitudes???
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05.09.2018 6:21, Dmitry Vlasov

Well as always the generation of the Unified State Exam from the media messed up everything lol.gif
here is a link to the Verkhovye press release
http://verhovye.ru/news/novaya-vstrecha-babochki-kolibri/
why else ask questions that are already answered in the release (if, of course, you can read and understand the information)
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05.09.2018 9:30, Saddy

Well as always the generation of the Unified State Exam from the media messed up everything lol.gif
here is a link to the Verkhovye press release
http://verhovye.ru/news/novaya-vstrecha-babochki-kolibri/
why else ask questions that are already answered in the release (if, of course, you can read and understand the information)

Above is a quote from the press release of the Ministry of Ecology. They just refer to data from the Upper Reaches. And I'm 39, I didn't pass the Unified State Exam, and I suspect that I'll be older than you. If this is the Unified State Exam generation, then you're the one who messed up. searching for a comment to answer a question that the journalist already has an answer to is a standard of working in the media. We don't write a column with our own opinion, but a text based on the expert's comments. If you have something to say , I'm happy to hear it. If not, practice your wits on your own reflection in the mirror. Thanks for attention.

Upd: Ah, sorry, I'm not older. It's just that the style of your answer was in the spirit of a cocky loach that asserts itself at the expense of others.

This post was edited by Saddy-05.09.2018 09: 38

05.09.2018 9:32, Saddy

Will there be a fee smile.gif?
*****
I'll tell you for free that:
- such terms as" hummingbird butterfly "and" starfish " should not be used even in the tabloid press;
- why 40 years ago??? The species is observed almost annually in the Moscow region and in some years often.
- it has no value.
- in the south of Russia, it is one of the most popular types.
- it is absolutely impossible and stupid to protect it, because it is a migrant from the south, flying anywhere and unable to tolerate the Moscow frosts.
And what, ecologists from Verkhovye don't know these platitudes???

Thank you for your opinion and information. Regarding protection and value - let environmentalists decide, our task is to convey information to the reader.
An expert comment for an article is the format of the article. The journalist does this even when he understands the topic and knows the answer.

This post was edited by Saddy-05.09.2018 09: 38

05.09.2018 10:03, Nemov

Dear Saddy, Verkhovye should know entomologists who deal with the Moscow Red Books and continue to accumulate information. Only this is not A.V. Sviridov, who was mentioned to you in another topic (he is old and does not do research), but most likely Lyudmila Borisovna Volkova. Since the publication of the last red data book, a lot of water has flowed away, there were record-breaking hot years, the introduction of mantis and other southern insects to the Moscow region. And there must have been Yazykan's observations. Even I happened to see it in the break of the year on the right bank of the Oka River near Kashira.
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05.09.2018 12:15, Sergey Didenko

The yazykan is indeed observed almost every year not only in the Moscow region, but also within the borders of the city of Moscow, in the Kosino-Ukhtomsky microdistrict, where in late summer it regularly feeds on phlox. Most likely, this is the summer generation from spring migrants from the south.
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05.09.2018 14:37, kovyl

Now laugh at the "podkustovy vypolzn" in "Radio Day" smile.gif

05.09.2018 14:46, Andrey Bezborodkin

Yazykan, although very rare, is found in St. Petersburg for any of the entomologists or amateurs, and in the city itself above the flowers. This year it was seen in the south of Finland.

05.09.2018 18:37, AGG

Well as always the generation of the Unified State Exam from the media messed up everything lol.gif
here is a link to the Verkhovye press release
http://verhovye.ru/news/novaya-vstrecha-babochki-kolibri/
why else ask questions that are already answered in the release (if, of course, you can read and understand the information)



Above is a quote from the press release of the Ministry of Ecology. They just refer to data from the Upper Reaches. And I'm 39, I didn't pass the Unified State Exam, and I suspect that I'll be older than you. If this is the Unified State Exam generation, then you're the one who messed up. searching for a comment to answer a question that the journalist already has an answer to is a standard of working in the media. We don't write a column with our own opinion, but a text based on the expert's comments. If you have something to say , I'm happy to hear it. If not, practice your wits on your own reflection in the mirror. Thanks for attention.

Upd: Ah, sorry, I'm not older. It's just that the style of your answer was in the spirit of a cocky loach that asserts itself at the expense of others.


Dmitry, you seem to be an experienced person, but you forget about one "golden" rule - if you want to be healthy, eat alone and in the dark wink.gifand no communication with journalists, because whatever you say, your words will still be distorted/twisted/taken out of context/ screwed so that you yourself are happy not to you will be, then they will call you something else and then you will flow around for a long time in the eyes of your colleagues. why should the media fill up a column with a banal migrant? when there is a super sensation! a hummingbird butterfly!!! who hasn't been seen in 50 years!!!!
it is better to cry later in a separate topic " funny and wrong...", and if you climb there, you will remain, at best, "a badass loach" or even fall under the article, as was recently the case with one of our colleagues wink.gif
I think that in modern reality, most of the media in no way meets the unspoken moral and ethical standards that were meant in the paragraph of the REO Charter "on popularization"
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05.09.2018 20:56, Saddy

your words will still be distorted/twisted/taken out of context/ screwed in such a way that you will not be happy yourself


In this case, it was me who was diagnosed in absentia, accused me of stupidity, although the quote was not from my text, but just from the press release of Verkhovye, which the author of the post reproached me and gave as an example, without even bothering to read it carefully. It's easy to put up labels based on a professional sign (all journalists are stupid), isn't it? Have you tried working as a journalist yourself? I also haven't tried being an entomologist, so I shouldn't and don't consider it necessary to understand the intricacies of butterflies. There are experts for this purpose. But I don't give you any diagnoses, either. And I ask you to treat me with respect, too, especially since I came here with a request for help and with the utmost correctness, and certainly not for ridicule from "know-it-alls". Fortunately, there are many more adequate people here, among entomologists and other specialists. I don't usually respond to such assaults as you or your aforementioned colleague do. The dog barks, the caravan goes, for 15 years of work I have already learned not to pay attention. But something here decided to change the rules.
And all the best to you.
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05.09.2018 22:44, Dmitry Vlasov

Olga, I'm sorry if I accidentally offended you. shuffle.gif
BUT you can decide which quote you gave in the title post - from the press release of the Ministry of Ecology or Verkhovye.
The link from the site of the Upper Reaches is a completely different information than in the quote and everything is "chewed up"there.
About "all journalists are stupid" also not my words. By the way, I am to some extent your colleague, because for a long time I was a consultant for our TV and radio company and I often have to communicate with media representatives on the specifics of my work...
good luck to you beer.gif

This post was edited by Elizar - 05.09.2018 22: 46

05.09.2018 22:48, Oleg Belkin

Saddy
Don't take words too close. Gentlemen are trying to convey inf. that we are talking about a banal migratory species that cannot be specially protected, with the exception of complex protection of places where it occurs, at extremely low temperatures its pupae will die (do not overwinter), and wait for the next arrival...)) And local pathos is an integral part of the entomological branch of the site. Instead of being happy that someone from the fields not related to entomology, who is interested in useless, commercially useless boogers in our time, asks for a competent opinion, they start ... umnik.gif
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