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10.08.2008 22:32, Fornax13

I find these mortal remains too shiny for the grinders..."
Oh, by the way, when cleaning you did not come across small (5-6 millimeters) larvae. In all sorts of dusty places usually. Roughly speaking, "striped worms" with a bunch of long hairs behind. If they are attagens, then their larvae periodically catch the eye.
P. S. Don't these guys look like yours?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...u%26sa%3DG&um=1

This post was edited by Fornax13-10.08.2008 22: 36

11.08.2008 0:15, Guest

similar! jump.gif the first one that is thicker!
larvae.. there were a couple.. I didn't even realize that I was
remembering something alive right now! such as centipedes that are furry on the sides. only not from behind and along the entire length. and the size is larger than 5-6mm. maybe not those beetles, but some stray ones smile.gif
shiny in the photo because of the flash probably. but in general, they are not too matte, rather like polished, but not quite so shiny.

here's what the search turned up:
Powder beetle. This beetle got its name because of the ability of the larvae to grind wood into a powder similar to flour. Adult insects are dark brown in color, reaching a length of 6 mm. Their life cycle is relatively short — less than a year. The holes from these beetles reach 1.5 mm in diameter. They appear in late spring and summer, and fly at dusk. They prefer freshly cut wood, so they are often found in wood-burning warehouses

it fits the size, something wooden was on the neighbors ' balcony.
I didn't find any holes, but to be honest, I didn't look for them with passion.

11.08.2008 0:21, Guest

although now I looked at the photo again..
in general, the silhouette is similar, but not completely sure..
they seem to be small and I didn't look at them closely (I'm a little afraid of them)
and in the photo they look different

11.08.2008 0:32, муся

I would die if I saw this!
and where do they run? to know smile.gif

11.08.2008 0:56, Fornax13

"Powder beetle"??? lol.gif
I didn't understand who he was. Probably referring to some kind of grinder...
There are not so many grinders who live in apartments. And not everyone eats wood.
Lasioderma serricorne (Fabricius, 1792) - tobacco beetle
Stegobium paniceum (Linnaeus, 1758) - bread grinder
Anobium punctatum (Degeer, 1774) - furniture grinder
Hadrobregmus pertinax (Linnaeus, 1758) - house grinder
Look for pictures in Google-but I still think that these are leatherworms.

Attagenus larvae are roughly like this: http://www.pbase.com/image/36891362

11.08.2008 1:24, муся

how terrifying!
No, they weren't like that, they were similar in color, but otherwise they weren't.
powder beetle this was written in several topics that Google gave out.
there were no similar photos. But I've seen enough of all sorts of beetles. the one
with horns was even beautiful!
For some reason, I got it into my head that these people eat.
and where could they even come from?
new home. high floor. here the neighbors moved out of the communal apartment, I think they could have brought someone.

11.08.2008 1:50, Fornax13

Come on, it's not a problem for them - they fly quite well - on the roof of a ten-story building, for example, I saw crowds of different beetles. In natural conditions, they develop perfectly (I can't vouch for A. smirnovi) - bird nests, etc. So maybe from the street. Maybe a gift from the neighbors, too.
But you should still try to make the picture more informative. And then guess, I feel, for a long time we will smile.gif

11.08.2008 9:11, Victor Titov

I would die if I saw this!
and where do they run? to know smile.gif

Solpugs (phalanxes) - southern inhabitants. They live in the southern zone of steppes, semi-deserts and deserts.

11.08.2008 11:15, Guest

I'll give it a good try. thank you!

11.08.2008 12:34, муся

It's clear. I'm not going there!

11.08.2008 14:22, Fornax13

Oh, come on! Cute animals! smile.gif

Pictures:
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11.08.2008 14:35, omar

Really from the Ulyanovsk steppes?

11.08.2008 14:40, Fornax13

No, so far only from the Astrakhan semi-deserts... smile.gif Although in the Saratov region. scorpions live the same. I can't vouch for solpug, really. Well, we will search smile.giffor
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11.08.2008 15:03, Affa

Microscopic white insects appeared in the apartment-they just look like white dots. They crawl very fast, despite their size, and are only noticeable when crawling on something dark, almost invisible on white. To see with the naked eye, you need to look very closely. I looked at them under a strong magnifying glass, they have like 8 legs. Teardrop-shaped, pot-bellied, very small in size, there are larger and smaller individuals. It is impossible to take a picture, because they are very small. I wipe the doors and baseboards
every day 2-3 times, after 3-4 hours they crawl as much as it was.
They came from the SES to recognize did not recognize, but sprayed everything with sinusan 2 times, from the 2nd time they died, but after 2-3 days they appeared again in full. They live mainly in the kitchen and in the corridor in front of the kitchen, crawl mainly on skirting boards, doors and corners, there is a little bit on the closet in the hallway and on the door to the room. They appeared after repairs in July, which we did due to the fact that we were flooded at the end of March . We live on the 1st floor in bed they are not in the room yet, too.
What should I do??? help me how to withdraw money???? It's not very pleasant to live with them, all the corners are already stuck. weep.gif confused.gif

11.08.2008 15:10, omar

Scorpions in the Saratov region? I didn't hear it. Find solpug beer.gif

11.08.2008 15:16, Fornax13

It would be great! smile.gif Yes, there are scorpions there. In my opinion, even on the ZIN site this is reflected somewhere.

11.08.2008 16:53, Victor Titov

Apparently, these are dust mites. Take a look at these links.
http://molbiol.ru/pictures/80387.html
http://doctor-al.ru/get_news.php?news_id=64&

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 08/11/2008 16: 54
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11.08.2008 19:45, AlexEvs

I haven't heard about solpug in the Saratov region, but they live in the Rostov region. However, they are distributed quite locally.
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11.08.2008 21:40, Affa

No, it's not him. This site says that with the naked eye, dust mites are not visible, but ours are visible, although small.

11.08.2008 21:56, BUTTERFLY

Damn, what a beauty! I want one,does anyone have such a beast? tongue.gif

11.08.2008 22:23, Андреас

"We have plenty of this species at certain times, too... It reminds me of my childhood... Once I saw how "poor" women sprinkled washing powder around the railway station!!! lol.gif
- Well, - and so, - simply treat the lower surfaces and crevices in the house at the same time with "Mashenka" and aerosol, - but only!!! contact action, not Dichlorvos. The effect will last up to 3 years! (I, as it is not funny and klschyunstvenno will hear, - 5 years sold insecticides) But only carefully , since you are on maternity leave.

11.08.2008 23:52, Pirx


they didn't recognize it, but they sprayed everything


weep.gif weep.gif weep.gif

11.08.2008 23:57, Pirx


sold insecticides for 5 years) But only carefully , since you are on maternity leave.


Maybe I should not recommend pyrethroid tads, crayons and aerosols to the young lady at all? Decree after all. This is me as a plant defender, entomologist, chemist and dad I say wink.gif

12.08.2008 10:26, Victor Titov

No, it's not him. This site says that with the naked eye, dust mites are not visible, but ours are visible, although small.

Based on your description (puzatenkie, 8 legs...) these are most likely some kind of ticks (it is possible, however, the option with small recently "populous" spiders, but I think you would recognize the spiders). All insects have 6 legs.

12.08.2008 13:11, Affa

half of the night yesterday I studied ticks umnik.gif, our beetles are similar to them only it is the species that has bred in us that I have not found. frown.gif
How to lime them??? Here is the main question for us. confused.gif

12.08.2008 13:13, Victor Titov

How to lime them??? That's the main question for us. confused.gif

Duc, using the same methods as the dust method. There are recipes on the links above.

12.08.2008 22:54, Affa

thank you all! It seems that our pets are similar to one of the varieties of dust mites. We will destroy it, and a team of dust mite exterminators has been called in for tomorrow. smile.gif

14.08.2008 11:00, guest: Din

The joy was shortfrown.gif-lived, yet they did not disappear, they just began to meet less often, for some time they did not exist at all, and now I meet them again little by little...
We looked at the pictures of lice, but they don't seem to be similar. It's even hard to explain what they are. It is a pity that we are not experts in this matter.
Yesterday, such a bug was found on the laptop display, they wanted to brush it off, but it turned out that it was crawling inside and could not get it in any way... Terribly tortured! I don't know what to do, who to contact for help?

14.08.2008 12:06, Victor Titov

thank you all! It seems that our pets are similar to one of the varieties of dust mites. We will destroy it, and a team of dust mite exterminators has been called in for tomorrow. smile.gif

Success!

14.08.2008 16:31, Динусик

And I would not refuse such a pet!

14.08.2008 16:47, Андреас

- I was shooting under a lamp in the yard in Pyatigorsk leaflet 5 mm in length; immediately clicked on view, and decided to re-photograph,.. - as it is, as a "personality" was gone... frown.gif smile.gif
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15.08.2008 1:43, муся

the beetles are gone! I haven't seen any of the bigger ones in the last few days!
but I found a horror story today, it moved quickly and curled up in a ball.
user posted image

15.08.2008 5:31, Bad Den

This is the larva of a skin-eating beetle from the genus Anthrenus

15.08.2008 11:36, муся

someone recently posted this photo..
here the larvae are similar, but the beetles are not(according to the photos).. strange..
those brown beetles still haven't been found! where did they go then???

and most importantly, how to deal with them???

also yesterday I found on the windowsill one beetle(dried) clearly kozheeda, from the photos I already recognize smile.gifwhich with light specks on the back. it turns out that I have several types of all sorts of beetles weep.gif

15.08.2008 23:07, Fornax13

Out of season, I guess... Under the baseboards, while the larvae are walking, the beetles will be there later... wink.gif

"1. One of the most important prerequisites for successful control of
leatherworms is accurate diagnosis of the species. Unfortunately,
until recently, many entomologists were quite satisfied
with the diagnosis indicating that the pest belongs to"
skin-eating beetles". And yet, having received such a definition, we
will not only learn nothing about how to deal with this
pest, but we will not know whether it is worth fighting it at all.
Often, the presence of leatherworms in warehouses does not
mean that the stored products are in danger. Sometimes
this applies not only to harmless species, but also to dangerous
pests. For example, the appearance of
any Der-mestes or Trogoderma species in warehouses where wool or woollen products are stored does
not pose a threat to these products
, but indicates that the premises
are provided with unsanitary conditions. To eliminate these leatherworms
, it is sufficient to carry out a thorough wet cleaning. However,
the situation will change dramatically if furs or hides are brought to the same warehouses
. In this case, there
is a need for urgent implementation of fighter measures.
2. After accurately determining the type of leatherhead
, you should try to find out whether it belongs to the local fauna or not.-
brought from another area. The
whole course of the future struggle largely depends on the solution of this issue. Against the
imported pest, it is necessary to carry out vigorous, but short-
term extermination measures and subsequent
control of incoming products. If leatherworms enter
warehouses from the surrounding area, the main emphasis should
be placed on preventive measures aimed
at preventing beetles from entering buildings, and
constant monitoring of their numbers in the premises.
3. When controlling any types
of leatherworms, their biological properties should be taken into account as much as possible. However, if
the development and lifestyle of a species are not fully or completely
understood,
the biological characteristics of the taxa to which it belongs can be taken into account.
So, if the pest belongs to the Dermesti-
nae subfamily, then the following should be kept in mind:: a) beetles and
larvae can not starve for more than 10-15 days, so
to fight them, you can use alternating goods (food
and non-food) or temporary release of warehouses from
stocks; b) larval development proceeds quickly, so that
species without diapause (mainly related to
subgenus Dermestinus), can produce several generations per
year and increase their numbers very quickly; c) beetles
live for a long time, need protein food and constantly
migrate, so
traps or poisoned baits can be successfully used to collect and destroy them; d) larvae
bite into walls, floors and other structures before pupating

. in the subfamily
, there are no keratophages that can damage wool; f) in
nature, these species develop on corpses and partly in
bird nests; to prevent their entry into the premises, it is advisable to eliminate
all landfills and cattle burial grounds within a radius
of 1 km. destruction of pigeon coops and bird nests on
the warehouse territory and in nearby buildings.
If leatherworms belong to
the Megatomidae subfamily, it should be remembered that they have other
biological features: a) their larvae can starve
for many months or even several years, so they
remain viable in empty warehouses and are easily transported
with contaminated containers; b) Attagenini larvae and most
Megatomini species develop slowly, many species of obla-

however, some Trogoderma species in the south and in
heated areas can produce several generations during the year
and increase their numbers very
quickly; c) the larvae do not bite into dense objects, but willingly
hide in crevices (Anthrenus) and in the dust (Attagenus);
quite often they crawl out on the outer parts of buildings and
escape from the action of fumigants; d) beetles do not live long and
do not feed indoors, so it is useless
to use intestinal poisons or traps with food lures against them
; e) larvae of many species feed on keratin-
containing substances
f) in nature, larvae develop mainly in
the nests of birds and hymenopteran insects, and beetles of
most species feed on flowers; to control them, it is
necessary to destroy the nests of synanthropic birds,wasps and bees,
as well as mowing grass in the territory immediately
adjacent to them. to warehouses.
4. As previously noted, some leatherworms are regularly
exported outside their natural habitats with goods
and transport. Therefore, careful planning can serve as an important means of reducing
the losses caused by these types of activities.-
control of contamination of the products of enterprises
that produce goods of animal origin,as well
as the inclusion of the most dangerous pests in the number of objects
of internal quarantine.
5. A comparative analysis of the effectiveness
of various methods of combating harmful types of leatherworms allows us to draw
the following conclusions:
a) the latent lifestyle and high mobility of larvae
limit the possibility of using mechanical
methods for cleaning premises and stored products;
b) traps with food (including poisoned)
lures can be used to control beetles of the genus
Dermestes. Laying out "distracting" baits —
substances on which female leatherworms from the Megatominae subfamily
can lay eggs-does not significantly
reduce the number of pests. Much more
promising is the use of sexual attractants for collecting and
destroying leatherworms. As previously
noted, these substances have already been isolated from
several species and will probably be found
in other leatherworms
in the future. c) storage of food products and some materials
(furs, fabrics) at low temperatures (below 12°C) completely
protects them from damage by skin eaters.
The use of freezing to kill these pests is possible
only in cases where warehouses are infested with southern (
especially tropical) species,
d) high temperatures can be used for
disinfection (in special chambers) those objects and materials
that do not deteriorate when heated to 80° C for 1-2
hours (fabrics, herbariums, etc.);
e) over the past decade, studies have been conducted
on the effect of gamma radiation and lasers on skin eaters (Howden and Auerbach,
1958; Nair and George,1965; Tilton et al., 1966; Pointel, Phan Van
Sam, 1969; Rahalkar, D'Souza, 1971; Brower, Tilton, 1972; Ko-
bylnyk, Wilde, 1973; and others. ) and some sterilizing
agents (Cohen and Levinson, 1968, 1972, Metwally et al., 1972a,
1972b), but these methods have not yet been applied in practice
;
f) currently existing volatile repellents
have a very weak repellent effect, the chemical
and physical properties of these substances make it undesirable
to use them They are used in residential areas and exclude the possibility
of using them for food protection and in
agricultural farms, and the limited use of some of them is prohibited.
repellents (camphor, camphene, creosote) can only
be used to protect zoological collections and herbariums if
there are hermetic cabinets and a perfect
ventilation system in the room.
The number of sufficiently effective protective measures should
include the impregnation of fabrics and other materials with resistant and non
-toxic substances that prevent
the attack of leatherworm larvae. Some of these substances
have repellent properties (for example, tetramethrin,
surfactants), while others are more
or less strong insecticides (laurylpentachlorophenetol
, gardona, C-9491 et al., Whitmore, 1965; Bry et al., 1972;
Lang and Bry, 1972);
g) for
the treatment of infectious diseases. contact insecticides are widely used to kill leatherworms in warehouses and residential areas. Many
of them significantly reduce the number of pests, but,
as a rule, do not lead to their 100% death. Of the many
drugs tested in our country and abroad,
dilor, dieldrin, DDVF,
carbaryl,foxime, neopinamine and some others are the most effective.
A comparative study of many insecticides is a witness to
This indicates that even closely related species of leatherworms sometimes
exhibit different sensitivity to the same drugs,
so when calculating insecticide dosages, it is necessary
to conduct preliminary laboratory experiments on
those species that are supposed to be controlled;
h) complete destruction of all phases of development of any
leatherworm species can be achieved only by fumigation of the plant.
storage areas or materials. Among
the fumigants currently
used, methyl bromide has the best performance, which gives an excellent effect even when controlling
diapausing larvae of the caper beetle.
Such substances as di-
chloroethane, paradichlorobenzene or carboxide can be used in chamber fumigation."
(R. D. Zhantiev. Skin-eating beetles of the USSR fauna (1976))

Here, actually... Do you need it???

Regular thorough wet cleaning with dust removal, etc. can reduce the number of leatherworms (and not only them). You won't get rid of them all, they'll show up again, of course. But still...

16.08.2008 0:34, муся

wow! Fornax13 many thanks for such a detailed text!!!
I will not say of course that I have unsanitary conditions, but I found these in the photo in places inaccessible for everyday cleaning. there was a lot of dust behind the cabinet and they...
now the little brown beetles are starting to pop up again.. these are like flying..
and these leatherheads don't bite at all?
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16.08.2008 1:50, Fornax13

And I don't think I said anything about unsanitary conditions wink.gifAlmost all kozheeds fly wonderfully, beetles in Attagenus smirnovi do not eat anything at all, imago Anthrenus (larva like in your photo, and beetles just with light bandages and spots) feed on flowers. So they don't need to bitesmile.gif, so don't worry about that.

19.08.2008 4:57, Ozzfan

Today, at about 3: 40 am, this bastard bit me on the leg and shoulder(I was asleep and woke up to something crawling on me(at first I thought a mosquito) I tried to crush the creature on my hand - I started pressing it when it was on my neck, then on my shoulder and managed to eliminate it(as it turned out later) only when it was on my leg(I killed it by hitting my heel on the leg in the area of its alleged location)... When I turned on the light, I found a lot of paws on myself(on the neck, shoulder, legs), and this creature was lying almost without legs... At first, the leg was terribly itchy and itchy in the alleged area of this vile creature, then it turned out that the shoulder was also itchy... I filled the places of the alleged bite with iodine and alcohol, after 20 minutes the itch seems to have passed( ... So, closer to the point, in view of the events described above, I have set myself a very important (and, I hope, feasible) mission to eliminate all individuals of this species in the house, and even better in the yard! PLEASE HELP ME, THESE CREATURES HAVE ALREADY GOT ME!!! HOW DO I WITHDRAW THEM??? PLEASE TELL ME!!!

Oh yes, and don't la-la about the fact that they don't bite or they say "they are useful and beautiful", that's enough for me, I endured them for a long time but this is the limit - they finished playing!

This post was edited by Ozzfan - 08/19/2008 04: 57

19.08.2008 5:11, Ozzfan

It's a pity that at the moment I haven't found a more effective tool than sneakers)

19.08.2008 6:26, Bad Den

Well, she probably didn't bite - the jaws are too small and weak. This is an allergy, most likely (or the consequences of a heel strike smile.gif).

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