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12.07.2015 21:13, okoem

They're flying. Last season I had more females than males.

In our country, males fly in large numbers during the day, and only a few fly to the lamp. The female never came at all.
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12.07.2015 22:08, AGG

females are generally reluctant to fly, it is easier to find them in the daytime on trunks, and even easier to collect caterpillars and bring out "luxury" wink.gifones
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12.07.2015 22:15, DYNASTES

How many years I have been fishing, but I have never met a mourner either in the steppe zone in Yenakiyevo or in the forest park zone of Kharkiv. frown.gif


As far as I know, the last time a mourner was caught in Kharkiv was in the 1990s, in the forest park-near the forester's house with a well, in Sarzhyn Yar and in the area of the cemetery on Krasny Oktyabr. I haven't heard about any more recent finds.

Urticaria in the early 2000s was caught only once in the vicinity of the village of Berezova, the so-called Berminvody, but it didn't seem to be recorded there anymore.
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12.07.2015 22:37, DYNASTES

  
I read somewhere that mourning women prefer large rivers, and that the Seversky Donets has a population, but where is unknown confused.gif. We need to search wink.gif.


this is a strange statement. if you don't know where, then how do you know what is there? If someone has been caught somewhere, on the basis of which a conclusion is made about the population, then the place of fishing should be known. Otherwise, it is only a guess, and not a statement that such a population can exist.

13.07.2015 14:59, Nick444444

this is a strange statement. if you don't know where, then how do you know what is there? If someone has been caught somewhere, on the basis of which a conclusion is made about the population, then the place of fishing should be known. Otherwise, it is only a guess, and not a statement that such a population can exist.

The source (below) indicates mourning, although it is for the Donetsk region, but the Northern Donets River flows in the Kharkiv region smile.gifas well . I suggested that it might also be in Kharkiv. Moreover, my assumption is confirmed by the observation of my friend, he saw two pieces just at the Seversky Donets River, but I forgot to ask about the exact place then frown.gif.

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15.07.2015 22:15, Nick444444

Thank you again for the information about Lymantria monacha and Sphinx pinastri! Now a new question has arisen: smile.gif
Can you find these butterflies: Cosmotriche lobulina, Panthea coenobita, Dendrolimus pini, especially most interested in D. pini and P. coenobita. Place, the same as last time: sosnovy bor (near the village of Vasishcheva, Kharkiv region. Thank you in advance!

29.07.2015 11:06, Nick444444

What are the dates of butterfly summer:
- Lymantria monacha
-Sphinx pinastri
-Panthea coenobita

29.07.2015 16:15, ИНО

I still haven't told you where we have mourning girls smile.gif
I read somewhere that mourning women prefer large rivers, and that the Seversky Donets has a population, but where is unknown confused.gif. We need to search wink.gif.

I saw one copy in the year 2000 in Svetogorsk right on the road leading to the Kamyshev Oak. I know for sure that it was July 12, which is like Peter and Paul (I went to the temple on the mountain).
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09.08.2015 0:14, аруд

How to photograph mottled birds with outstretched wings in nature 77777. Pliz. Well, I see-video -- storyboard - no-just on photorapat???7

09.08.2015 0:28, okoem

with outstretched wings in nature
Take out the rasprovilka with pestryankami to nature smile.gif
But seriously - to wait for the moment when the mottled bird is sitting with its wings slightly open.
user posted image
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09.08.2015 21:51, Distelfalter

Can you tell me who eats goose butterflies other than birds?

In July, I observed cabbage laying eggs on nasturtiums. I spent two weeks watching the eggs grow and what happens to them. After the prescribed two weeks, vigorous caterpillars hatched. As much as 25. There was no limit to my joy. At the bottom, I checked several times. On the third day, they were all eaten at night. Only the black heads remained. The caterpillars were well covered by other leaves.

Can butterfly eggs dry out in the sun? I also observed laying on nasturtiums. And it seems to me that this postponement was dried by the sun. How can I help you in these cases?

09.08.2015 22:19, okoem

Can you tell me who eats goose butterflies other than birds?

In July, I observed cabbage laying eggs on nasturtiums. I spent two weeks watching the eggs grow and what happens to them. After the prescribed two weeks, vigorous caterpillars hatched. As much as 25. There was no limit to my joy. At the bottom, I checked several times. On the third day, they were all eaten at night. Only the black heads remained. The caterpillars were well covered by other leaves.

Can butterfly eggs dry out in the sun? I also observed laying on nasturtiums. And it seems to me that this postponement was dried by the sun. How can I help you in these cases?

- Butterfly caterpillars are eaten by wasps, beetles, spiders, ants... The leaves are not a hindrance to them.
- If the eggs are adapted to being in the sun, they will not dry out. But, most often, butterflies lay their eggs in the shade (on the underside of the leaves).
"If the caterpillars are eaten and the eggs are dry, they can't be helped. frown.gif

09.08.2015 22:38, Hierophis

It is best to take the masonry and move it home, and the caterpillars will forget about all the problems. just need to have time to put fresh grass)

10.08.2015 21:16, Distelfalter

Thank you for your answers!

11.08.2015 21:32, Василий пенза

The caterpillars could just shed and leave the remains of skins or heads that's all!
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21.08.2015 22:16, Wave Storm

I bought the book "Treasures of the Black Sea Nature Reserve". Interestingly, it indicates that it contains peat yolk, which I once wrote about on the forum. But that's not all. It also says that there are polychrome, zorka-zegris, saturnia srednyaya, zorka steppe, triphiza steppe, kraeglazka steppe, poplar ribbon and willow overflow. But I have my doubts about the last two, although anything can happen.

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23.08.2015 21:29, Wave Storm

  
Dubious idea about the snow cover, well, about warming, a lot of butterflies we have, kotoyre winter imago, and for some reason do not die out


I understand that the message is already several months old. Just the answer to the question of why the lemongrass does not die out is on some sites, for example, on the site Ecosystem:

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23.08.2015 21:52, Hierophis

Well, somehow this is not at all in the subjectsmile.gif, it is clear that butterflies and not only have adaptations to low temperatures, many people have "special liquids", the question is why there are no lemongrasses specifically in my vicinity, and in general very few in the south) Although the same peacock eyes are daytime, for example, there are.

23.08.2015 22:10, Wave Storm

I find this interesting myself.
In that beam, a photo of which I posted on the last page, it is found. And I haven't seen a day peacock this year.

23.08.2015 22:34, Hierophis

Peacock eyes are enough ) It all depends on the duration of observations and the variety of observation sites )
In principle, if I went only, for example, to certain conditional places A and B in my vicinity, I could also claim that there are no swallowtails, podaliris or peacock eyes this year and there were none))

23.08.2015 22:42, Wave Storm

Peacock eyes are enough ) It all depends on the duration of observations and the variety of observation sites )
In principle, if I went only, for example, to certain conditional places A and B in my vicinity, I could also claim that there are no swallowtails, podaliris or peacock eyes this year and there were none))
Were they there this year?
I didn't go to Solontsy much in July, but I saw a lot of things. But not the DPG.

23.08.2015 22:43, Hierophis

Well, in general, the situation with lemongrass plants seems to be clear - we have many factors that are unfavorable for them - very few forest stands, respectively. there are few places for wintering, and winters with constant warming and unstable snow cover. Inahis somehow still get out, but lemongrass can not. And yet, I limonnitsy we saw them a couple of times in the vicinity, and another saw a friend 4 years ago. And to the north, closer to Yuzhnoukrainsk, they are generally full.

23.08.2015 22:46, Hierophis

They, peacock eyes and were in the spring and, I think, there are already now smile.gifAnd where did they go then? )) Daytime of course, that's what I didn't see so it's night, but that doesn't mean that they are not)))
One of my friends generally claimed that we do not have inahis, but "It all depends on the duration of observations and the variety of observation sites", once I found inahis on the road in March on the way to work) and brought it , showed it)

23.08.2015 22:51, Wave Storm

The most interesting thing is that where I observed DPG, it was in my city N. Kakhovka in the area of dachas (2006, 2007, 2012). And once, in the summer of 2012, he flew right into the yard near my house.

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23.08.2015 23:06, Hierophis

Well it's not serious) In the city, I also saw quite a few of them, especially in flower beds, but in general, in the spring in March and early April, if you walk/ride a bike along the forest cover outside the city, then their shaft sits on the road wink.gif

24.08.2015 1:08, ИНО

Roma, why are you messing up names like that? Peacock eyes have nothing to do with io. Think of some more ox-eyes. I didn't know that in the south of Ukraine they are so rare, we have the most common butterfly. I met him once, even in January, on the sun-warmed wall of a nine-story building. However, it would be an abnormally warm January. But most of all they like streams and springs.

25.08.2015 12:55, Wave Storm

What's not serious? The thing is, I've only ever seen them in the city. Although this is understandable. Both in the dachas and in the yard of my house there are hops. In the acacia forest belt, all the grass has dried up in the summer, and there are no nettles or hops, and in the forest belt near the North Crimean Canal, there are no nettles or hops either.

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25.08.2015 20:03, Hierophis

You can never speak , or rather you can say something, but you can never really think like that - what, for example,

"In the acacia forest belt, all the grass has dried up in the summer, and there are no nettles or hops, and in the forest belt near the North Crimean Canal, there are no nettles or hops either."

To make sure that something is there-just see it, to make sure that something is not, sometimes the whole life is not enough ))))

Well, you don't need to associate such a butterfly as inahis with its forage plants - this butterfly flies perfectly where it wants, over long distances, I see them in our flower beds in the fall, but this doesn't mean 100% that they are hatched somewhere nearby) It is still possible to tie polyxene or yurtin-lupi-galatey or sennits so, but inakhisov-hardly smile.gif

In general, if you need to see a lot of inachis in the wild-then on the bike and along the plantings of all sorts and forests, if they exist, outside the city in the spring )) Well, you can also go to dachas and in the suburbs, they will probably be there too, but somehow it's not cool to climb dachas, there are only more dogs than all the inahis )))

25.08.2015 21:06, ИНО

Just the same io usually exhibit territorial behavior, when each individual occupies a tiny piece of the biotope, and fiercely drives away competitors. And they fly to flower beds en masse, probably out of desperation, when everything fades in ordinary habitats. You want to live - and not so raskoryachivaeshsya (C).

10.09.2015 20:15, Wave Storm

Now in the sands we have found caterpillars of milkweed hawk moth on Seguiera milkweed. I've already decided to feed one. But the caterpillars of poplar and sea-buckthorn hawks can not yet be found, although poplars and suckers grow in the same places.

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10.09.2015 20:22, Alexandr Zhakov

Compare the size and biomass of milkweed and loch poplar. Where is it easier to find a caterpillar? In addition, poplar and sea buckthorn hawks have a masking color.
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10.09.2015 21:41, okoem

But the caterpillars of poplar and sea-buckthorn hawks can not yet be found, although poplars and suckers grow in the same places.

Sea buckthorn caterpillars are very easy to find. You need to look for suckers who have eaten the leaves at the ends of the branches. If such a branch is found, the caterpillar (if it has not yet managed to finish feeding and leave) is sitting somewhere on it or on a neighboring branch.
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24.10.2015 21:00, Nick444444

Can you tell me where you can find Poecilocampa populi and Ptilophora plumigera now? Today I was in a pine forest with birches and aspens, but I didn't find anything! Maybe butterflies like some special biotope? Where is the best place to look for them? Thank you in advance!

12.11.2015 14:15, alex13-nik

I bought the book "Treasures of the Black Sea Nature Reserve". Interestingly, it indicates that it contains peat yolk, which I once wrote about on the forum. But that's not all. It also says that there are polychrome, zorka-zegris, saturnia srednyaya, zorka steppe, triphiza steppe, kraeglazka steppe, poplar ribbon and willow overflow. But I have my doubts about the last two, although anything can happen.

For Wave Storm.
I remember you wrote about the search for Zegris eupheme in the spring of 2015. What was the result of your search? Where are the necessary biotopes? According to the area map, there are also finds in the Mykolaiv region along the Ingul River. It is also interesting to find Euchloe ausonia. Any thoughts on this.

12.11.2015 21:32, Wave Storm

alex13-nik, I was looking for Zegris eupheme in the Belozersky district of the Kherson region on 27.04.15 in the area of the villages of Aleksandrovka and Stanislav on the coast of the Dnieper estuary. There, according to the Red Book, it should be, but then I did not meet it. Maybe I got there at the wrong time? Maybe she flew there later, because the spring was long.

Euchloe ausonia has also not been seen, although, again, judging by the Red Book, it prefers saline areas of the steppe. It's quite possible that I might have confused her with someone else.

Here is the coast of the Dnieper estuary-this is the campaign of such steppes and there I found a brushtail steppe, which also likes salty areas. More precisely, they are called correctly "desert sagebrush-grass steppes".

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12.11.2015 21:41, Wave Storm

I might have been late about the Euphemism, though:

http://redbook-ua.org/ru/item/zegris-eupheme-esper/

12.11.2015 22:07, Alexandr Zhakov

The time for summer Zegris eupheme, normal, In the Kherson region caught her at this time on the islands in Sivash, and in Zaporozhye on the border with Kherson on the coast of the Utlyuk estuary.
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13.11.2015 0:26, Wave Storm

Maybe everything is already broken there... But somehow at that time there were few flowers there, although, in theory, there should be a lot of rare plants.

Here is a proposed biotope on the Dnieper estuary:

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13.11.2015 10:35, Dantist

 
Euchloe ausonia has also not been seen, although, again, judging by the Red Book, it prefers saline areas of the steppe. It's quite possible that I might have confused her with someone else.

She, like Zegris, caught several times and saw in flight, then not to be confused with other whiteflies.
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03.12.2015 10:34, okoem

alex13-nik, I was looking for Zegris eupheme in the Belozersky district of the Kherson region on 27.04.15 in the area of the villages of Aleksandrovka and Stanislav on the coast of the Dnieper estuary. There, according to the Red Book, it should be, but then I did not meet it. Maybe I got there at the wrong time? Maybe she flew there later, because the spring was long.

Euchloe ausonia has also not been seen, although, again, judging by the Red Book, it prefers saline areas of the steppe. It's quite possible that I might have confused her with someone else.

Here is the coast of the Dnieper estuary-this is the campaign of such steppes and there I found a brushtail steppe, which also likes salty areas. More precisely, they are called correctly "desert sagebrush-grass steppes".

In the Crimea, both species love not so much the normal steppe, but deposits and all sorts of areas with disturbed vegetation.
Ausonia - the most common species, in some places-the most widespread whitefly. It doesn't need saline areas. Most numerous in the second half of April.
Euphemism - from year to year can occur in different places. Likes plowed places - roadsides, the outskirts of forest belts, etc. It is also found on deposits. It is rare in the virgin steppe. It flies from late April to mid-May.

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