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Saturnia pavonia

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t00m, 05.03.2008 0:57

Good people, help anyone who can... mol.gif
The fact is that by all indicators, we (Penza) should have pavonia. but no one has ever met her on the territory of the region. What's the big deal? confused.gif please report any sightings of this species in the surrounding areas, as well as the time of summer and typical habitats. For the collection, getting a butterfly is not a problem, for breeding-too, but I really want to follow her with a net on the windbreak... and so that the first point in the area and my last name is next))) lol.gif
until recently, Aglia tau was also something exorbitant, and now that you know where and when to look for it-it flies in the city center)
I bow in thirty-three bows before your knowledge.
Tumanov Denis.

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05.03.2008 10:50, Alexandr Rusinov

It seems to me that pavonia is easier to find not with a net on the windbreak, but quietly and peacefully looking for caterpillars. They develop on raspberries and other rosaceae, but in our Yaroslavl region they prefer willow, they should be looked for in overgrown fields, clearings, and places are preferably slightly swampy.
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13.03.2008 0:36, Archypus

You can also run after the males. Only on burel they can not catch up - you can run into a twig frown.gifFly at the same time as Aglia tau is also fast and sharp. To be honest, I can't tell them apart in flight. Females were found at the end of May in such places, as mentioned in the post above, as well as arriving at the light.

This post was edited by Archypus - 03/24/2008 11: 30

13.03.2008 11:31, Alexandr Rusinov

No, it's not easy for me to follow the peacock eyes on the brown, and you can break your legs. It is easier to watch them on the glades, if the flight is good, then catching a few pieces is not a problem. Yes, I completely forgot, pavonia caterpillars are often found on top of sphagnum swamps, right on the moss, although I don't know what they feed on there eek.gif
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13.03.2008 13:30, Hemaris

Good people, help anyone who can... mol.gif
The fact is that by all indicators, we (Penza) should have pavonia. but no one has ever met her on the territory of the region. What's the big deal? confused.gif please report any sightings of this species in the surrounding areas, as well as the time of summer and typical habitats. For the collection, getting a butterfly is not a problem, for breeding-too, but I really want to follow her with a net on the windbreak... and so that the first point in the area and my last name is next))) lol.gif
until recently, Aglia tau was also something exorbitant, and now that you know where and when to look for it-it flies in the city center)
I bow in thirty-three bows before your knowledge.
Tumanov Denis.


Yes, I see you are completely out of touch with life. Now is the age of high technologies, including in entomology. Take out a few cocoons of females, get butterflies, put them in a small cage and go ahead. As a result, you will get everything at once - you will find habitats and catch ideal males. umnik.gif

This post was edited by Hemaris - 13.03.2008 13: 33

13.03.2008 13:43, Alexandr Rusinov

It seems to me that this high technology was invented by Fabre and not in this century.

13.03.2008 13:57, Hemaris

It seems to me that this high technology was invented by Fabre and not in this century.


This is understandable, but apparently not everyone knows about it.
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13.03.2008 14:31, Dmitry Vlasov

Or they don't want to bother with finding cocoons of females, breeding...
I "took" a series of males of small saturnia in the private sector of Yaroslavl. In the garden of friends there was a lamp, and next to it was a pond with cement edges. On them from the inside they were birthmarks and sat...

13.03.2008 15:30, americanecz

People!
Did you check it on your own experience???
I'm talking about catching females...
How effective is it???

16.03.2008 9:31, Nozer

You can try to catch males during the day in woodlands and forest edges, and females fly well into the light. It is necessary to catch in May-June. Caterpillars can be found on raspberries, rosehips, strawberries and other plants of the Rosaceae family. Good luck! wink.gif

16.03.2008 21:17, А.Й.Элез

You can try to catch males during the day in woodlands and forest edges, and females fly well into the light. It is necessary to catch in May-June. Caterpillars can be found on raspberries, rosehips, strawberries and other plants of the Rosaceae family. Good luck! wink.gif


Is this proven by experience? In my opinion, if in the Moscow region, then certainly from the end of April. In May, especially at the beginning. And in June, most likely – tails, and even then it is unlikely. By the way, the caterpillars also feed on marsh plants.

19.03.2008 20:32, t00m

Gentlemen, you can do without comments... just leave your pavonias ' labels here.
thank you.

20.03.2008 11:19, Nozer

Is this proven by experience? In my opinion, if in the Moscow region, then certainly from the end of April. In May, especially at the beginning. And in June, most likely – tails, and even then it is unlikely. By the way, the caterpillars also feed on marsh plants.

I caught a female in the light at the beginning of June, though shabby. I can't say anything about the males, I saw them mostly in early or mid-May. The best summer season is really at the beginning of May, but if the spring is warm, you can meet it at the end of April.
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24.08.2008 15:42, Андреас

- According to our local entomological memory, it was collected (imago) only by my friend on Mount Yutsa (KMV) on the grassy western slope in 2000, on a May afternoon, in the amount of only one specimen (male).

This post was edited by Andreas - 08/24/2008 15: 44

11.05.2012 14:06, Nicetas

how many days does Saturnia pavonia spend in the egg stage?

11.05.2012 17:48, sandipta

how many days does Saturnia pavonia spend in the egg stage?



According to my observations, 10 days (in laboratory conditions)
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11.05.2012 18:02, Nicetas

And how do birch caterpillars eat, okay?

11.05.2012 18:27, sandipta

And how do birch caterpillars eat, okay?


Birch is eaten reluctantly. Offer the caterpillars willow, meadowsweet, rosehip.

11.05.2012 21:08, Сергей71

People!
Did you check it on your own experience???
I'm talking about catching females...
How effective is it???

I have six ladies sitting on the balcony for the second day and at least someone would be interested in them from outside males. In the vicinity (Istra district Moscow region) Eudia pavonia is definitely there - and I caught it more than once. Maybe they flew off already in nature?
PS. Aglia tau fly with might and main. Only today I saw three males in the city limits (Dedovsk).

11.05.2012 22:00, Egorus

Males fly at an unfertilized female. After mating, they instantly lose
interest in it and fly away. These are observations from last year in Aleshkovsky Sands.
This year, on the night of April 28-29 (in the same place, in Peski), two very worn-out females came to light. They laid eggs for two nights. But only 50 pieces.
By the evening of May 8, about 40 geese were running around the jar.
After lunch on the 9th, I landed them on a willow tree in natural conditions. Maybe that will work out?

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11.05.2012 22:13, Сергей71

So I have "virgo et casta", but apparently no one needs it. Today I will be planting with brood males.

11.05.2012 22:25, Egorus

Men are lazy now, they need beer... smile.gif

15.05.2012 17:38, Sergey Rybalkin

Caught 25.04.2012 female in the light. Chelyabinsk region, RussiaVishnevogorsk.

15.05.2012 19:57, Nicetas

Birch is eaten reluctantly. Offer the caterpillars willow, meadowsweet, and rose hips.


the caterpillars were hatched a few hours ago, the willow is somehow reluctant to eat, just crawled on the plant and sit. is this normal?
or is the willow the wrong one?

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15.05.2012 20:19, niyaz

Try giving raspberry leaves.

15.05.2012 20:25, Nicetas

it doesn't grow here. there are also birch, rowan, and hawthorn trees.

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15.05.2012 21:13, Сергей71

Men are lazy now, they need beer... smile.gif

Today, after work, I looked on the balcony and was stunned - around the cage of the last virgin, but three-day-old female, eight completely fresh suitors were circling. I've never seen anything like this, that's what a sunny and warm day on May 15 means.
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15.05.2012 21:47, El Cazador

Nicetas, you would put the stern branches in the water. and then in a couple of hours they will start to dry. Pavonia, by the way, eats birch perfectly.
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15.05.2012 21:51, Nicetas

Nicetas, you would put the stern branches in the water. and then in a couple of hours they will start to dry. Pavonia, by the way, eats birch perfectly.

I haven't built a normal cage yet, I'll do it properly soon).
and nothing that birch leaves are tarred. is it not dangerous for newborn caterpillars?
and I still don't understand why they sit listlessly on the leaves? some of them actually ate a little. but it's still not clear if this is normal. if the fact is that they do not eat this willow, then they sit on the birch tree in the same way.

This post was edited by Nicetas - 15.05.2012 21: 53

15.05.2012 21:55, El Cazador

Yes, do not worry, they will start eating. Make sure you don't run away. I had this because of the low temperature (+18C). And of course, it is better not to shift from one forage plant to another.
How about tarred birch leaves? Are they soaked in creosote? smile.gif

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15.05.2012 22:07, Nicetas

Yes, do not worry, they will start eating. Make sure you don't run away. I had this because of the low temperature (+18C). And of course, it is better not to shift from one forage plant to another.
How about tarred birch leaves? Are they soaked in creosote? smile.gif

Yes, the temperature is just room temperature, +25.
I don't know why, but the birch leaves are all sticky and covered in resin. maybe because they are still young.

15.05.2012 22:26, Сергей71

By the way, is mating two and a half hours normal for Eudia pavonia? Actias selene and
Antheraea pernyi were paired with me for 12 hours or more.

16.05.2012 10:23, El Cazador

norm

18.05.2012 18:34, El Cazador

My five kopecks. The flight of males began in the evening, after 17.00, there was no opportunity to wait, I left the females in the cage for the night. In the morning of the next day, the males clung to the cage ( I counted 24 pieces) and interestingly, they did not even respond to touch. But if you shake it a couple of times, throw it up - they flew away. "Pheromone intoxication"?

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18.05.2012 21:46, captolabrus

My five kopecks. The flight of males began in the evening, after 17.00, there was no opportunity to wait, I left the females in the cage for the night. In the morning of the next day, the males clung to the cage ( I counted 24 pieces) and interestingly, they did not even respond to touch. But if you shake it a couple of times, throw it up - they flew away. "Pheromone intoxication"?

No, it was they who were preparing for the ritual transition to the collection of the suffering but the poor, through the path of capture and punishment wink.gif

07.05.2013 15:31, Sergey Rybalkin

Tell me, has anyone already collected them this year?

07.05.2013 19:36, Victor Gazanchidis

Yes, I caught a female in the light in Ryazan region on 04.05, the freshest.
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07.05.2013 23:30, SergeyB

Also a female in the Dmitrov district of the Moscow region. 03.05. But at night it was somehow very cold. Arrived somewhere at 23-30.
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08.05.2013 8:10, swerig

On May 1, I caught a bred female. 30 km north of NN. In 2 hours-8 males. Then I just didn't catch it. Released the female.
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08.05.2013 13:45, Penzyak

... and the males will react to the dead unfertilized female???
I read that they react even to a clean cloth on which the female came out of the cocoon...

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