Reasons for the change in the number of swallowtails

Well, judging by what they wrote for our Apollons, there is supposedly only some Apollo from the Crimea, and that one is supposedly dubious. There don't seem to be any other instances.
But still IMHO, in the Carpathians there are many chances to find, it is certainly very difficult, but if you search, you can find anything

The last reliable find was recorded in the Bukovina Carpathians (Selyatino village, 1967).,

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(Ковальчук Г. І., Голубева Г. А., Скільский Г. В. Каталог ентомологічної колекції Чернівецького краєзнавчого музею. — Чернівці, 1993. — 46 с.)

Crimean-P. A. breitfussi Bryk, 1914-is known only from two specimens that were allegedly collected in the Crimea, judging by the instructions in the Yankoy tract of the Chatyr-Dag massif.

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The last reliable find was recorded in the Bukovina Carpathians (Selyatino village, 1967).,

если верить этой публикации
(Ковальчук Г. І., Голубева Г. А., Скільский Г. В. Каталог ентомологічної колекції Чернівецького краєзнавчого музею. — Чернівці, 1993. — 46 с.)

Are butterflies included?
По идее должны быть, если "Каталог ентомологічної колекції Чернівецького краєзнавчого музею", но может просто писменная заметка.

In general, judging by the same CC, there were relatively many Apollo finds, and not only in the Carpathians, but also near Kiev quite a few. So they were there, but then they disappeared.
This is already a clear decline in the number, to zero
There is something global here, climate-related most likely.

And the Bellevalia ? And dwarf almonds? And the "truths"? What about thyme (and you have only one thyme, poor thing)? And the meadowsweet (I hope you mean phillipendula, not spiraea)? And "flax of three kinds"? True, in" my magastepi " there is only one view, and that is not in it, but on the other slope of a beam in a poor petrophyte community on a limestone outcrop, I do not consider this a steppe. In general, it takes a long time to list everything that we have from your list (and half of it is weeds). easier, what is not. And there is only this: onosma, yarrow tansy, parsnip (a very steppe plant, n-yes, I hope at least wild and not sowing I had in mind, I took it for hogweed?), rogachka (we have a lot of this stuff in our fields, but I've never met it in the steppe,although, maybe you had some special steppe species in mind, but since only before the genus, then malicious weeds come out from the agronomist's handbook), rinder, poppies (again, there are plenty of poppies outside the steppe, the garbage bin is a typical place of growth), ephedra (after all, eat less of it, otherwise it looks like you have individual sensitivity), leopoldia, sleep-grass.

But now, I'll give you a similar list, only very short, without weeds, only real steppe plants. So, let's go: Waldstein onion, roundhead onion, Alsatian gold leaf, rough astragalus, Ukrainian astragalus, Austrian astragalus (in general, we have a lot of different astragalus, but so far I have only identified these three and one more-but that one is generally ubiquitous banal, practically a weed, so I don't mention it), Laxman's tenacity, veronica Jacena, veronica Borelier, siberian bell, bollen bell, purple mullein, Russian sinyak, Kaufman's mytnik, Boucher's ptitsemechnik. The latter, however, is not a steppe plant, but a forest plant, but it is also a relic. This is so, the first thing that came to mind, from all the flora of "my megastep" some small percentage. But at least deal with it for now.

Well, there are 7 types of bows in our steppe probably all the listed Astragalus and 4 more types in addition. Including a kopeck piece.
zlatogorichnik Alsatian-there is of course, as well as a bunch of calcifilic umbrella)
zhivuchka Laxman-this beauty grows quite densely in our deposits, but also in the steppes
Veronicas and bluebells are all there.
mullein purple-similarly-and on deposits. There is also a Boucher bird's nest and not a few of them. In principle, it vegetates at the beginning of sage flowering, so there is such a thing, and yet yes-it is in the steppe. So the ptitsemlechnik Bush is also a steppe plant.

There is most likely no bruise of the Russian, and mytnik Kaufman.

And so, what we have))
I have: my list + some of your views:

onosma, drooping sage, forest sage, Ethiopian sage, Pontic astragalus, broomrape, clematis, ashberry, catnip, meadowsweet, yurineya, dwarf almonds, pickles, rosehips, teren, yarrow tansy, gulyavnik, istod, parsnip, thyme, krestovnik, rogachka, chernokoren, vechernitsa, bellevalia, plantain, wormwood, flax of three types, chistets, milkweed, rinder, dwarf and salt-loving irises, lastovenya, zopniki, various small astragalus, bluebells, clover, poppies, thistles, asparagus, ephedra, leopoldia, and even dream grass, various bows, golden horn, zhivuchka, veronica, mulleins (there are more than one purple one there by the way, there is also a Pontic and maybe some more), well, and a Boucher's bird-catcher )

46 births

Megastep of Ezox:

sagging sage, forest sage, cowhills, rosehips, teren, plantain, wormwood, chistets, milkweed, meadowsweet, dwarf and salt-loving irises, zopniki, astragalus, clover, poppies, thistles, asparagus, bellevalia, almonds, istods, thyme, flax, onions, veronica, bluebells, mullein, bruise, mytnik, Boucher's birdcage.


28 genera

Not enough something, Ezox

Well, who deserves species richness in genera? Where did the tulip go? Thyme? From your list to our nagolovatku still add, gusset and all that I above separately did not specify as missing. And remove the poppies, how many times can I repeat!? Besides, I've only given you some of the most powerful sports. And if you have a Boucher bird's nest growing in the steppe, then it's definitely time to stop with poppies. I specifically stipulated that this is a forest plant. And according to your words, you don't have a forest, but this bird's nest is there? It generally grows only in the thicket itself, in a shady semi-darkness. Or did you add the Kherson "gilei" to your steppe? And without mytnik Kaufman, the steppe is not a steppe. All the bumblebees and bees are feeding on it! Now I will throw you more plants from "my megastep", however, they are not as powerful, in my opinion, as the previous ones, but they will do to increase the species ' generic wealth. So: Tatar kermek, broad-leaved kermek (these are different genera!), kachim, field blueberry, elecampane (I won't list it, you won't be able to get any further than the genera), wheatgrass, oatmeal, vainik, all sorts of different other cereals that I don't know, because I don't know much about cereals at all, I repent, lapchatki, turnip, carrot, tansy (but not like yours, but ordinary), solonechnik, krestovnik (Shevtsova, and then you'll think about weeds, but you didn't specify your own, so we'll think that ordinary or spring), earflaps, vetch, clover (true, the place where they grow is more like a meadow, not a steppe, but for you, as I looked at it, everything is the same, so it will do), bedstraw, cornflowers are different, cutter, stallions, adonis (Volga), buttercups, plantain, caragana (shrub), carnation, basil, nonea, catnip, aster, strawberry... Okay, that's enough for now, I'm tired of remembering. But it was only a seed.

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Ezox, that's how you differ from real researchers-because of your great conceit and the creation of postulates
, the Bushy bird's nest grows in the steppe, and it is in the steppe, not in bayrachny thickets, but in the middle of steppe vegetation, and we have a lot of such places, and there are a lot of bird's nesters there. Hundreds of plants.
Of course, it does not grow on elevations where it is completely dry and one feather grass, but in the steppe hearths, on the slopes of large ancient ravines - easily.
Well, other ptitsemlechniki are in abundance)
Clover grows in deep wet ravines, but it is still essentially a steppe, it is a small ravine, there also grows such a plant as white windmill.
Vetrennitsa, in the steppe, Ezoks! ))

Here are all the plants that you listed - we have, except for strawberries, does it grow in the steppe?
We probably have two or three types of kermeks, and we also have limoniums.

What about Adonis summertime? What about ceratocarpus sand, and Asyneuma canescens do you have any? And the full-time color? Caragana of Scythia? Is caragana soft? What about steppe flax plants? And Shandra? And Vida? The wax man? Skrobichevsky broom? Do you have such plants?

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Straight some steppe passion..
Well, and the control record Here, Esox, plant-the diameter of the flower is approx. 10 cm. Well, is it scary already? ))

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Roma, tell the person who determines my fe for you for the plants. I don't know what kind of birdcage you're wearing, but it's definitely not a Boucher. And Boucher looks something like this:

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And here is its place of growth:


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Yes, a typical steppe...

Roma, tell the person who determines my fe for you for the plants. I don't know what kind of birdcage you're wearing, but it's definitely not a Boucher. And Boucher looks something like this:

All.. after that you can finish the expert revealed himself in all his glory

Ezookos.. the plants that I listed all grow exactly where I photographed the sage, although yes, this is not the only place where all these plants also grow.

By the way, diversity is very good.. but the steppe is first of all-kovyli and open space. And where are your kovyli and vastness:?

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I've already said something about space. As for the grasshoppers, such thickets of them do not inspire me personally at all. No biodiversity. Yes, and these seeds... I hope you know where this plant got its name from.

P.S. Review my previous post, I added something there.

Ezox, so what do you call this birdman if it's not a Boucher?
And by the way, yes, ptitsemlechniki grow in the same place where sage drooping blooms, ah)))

About flowers and inflorescences do not be clever, and this plant does not have inflorescences, but baskets. But still, 10 cm, Esox!

I have no idea, there are many different ones, but to determine exactly what you need a photo of a fully formed shoot with open flowers up close, or better-a copy. But, what is not Boucher, - 100500%

Ezox, what shoots? )) We have only one of them, this bird-catcher-Bunsha Boucher! There are no others, I also need an expert ..

Esox, you are already in the penultimate stage of accumulation of the entire genome of the body in each cell, you will soon burst) What university did you get kicked out of, have you got a fever? Shakes already probably, imagine, 10 cm in diameter! by the way, do palimbia and haplophyllum grow in your megastepi? But in our ordinary steppes - full of

In general, what we have come to..
So where's the power, Esox? Where is your biodiversity? )

By the way, and ptitsemlechniki what frail, dohyagi)) Look, Ezox, what a real, free, and steppe-powered ptitsemlechnik Boucher should look like, and not what you have lying around on the ground barely alive

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Like from what university? Don't you remember? how did you tell me what biofac started and didn't finish? Or was it a fever?"

By the way, and ptitsemlechniki what frail, dohyagi)) Look, Ezox, what a real, free, and steppe-powered ptitsemlechnik Boucher should look like, and not what you have lying around on the ground barely alive

This is still Boucher, I do not dispute. But a bot is not:



Can't you see that they're different? He's the only one you have, well...
But only in the photo from the Bush there is no steppe but a wet meadow, judging by the sedge, and judging by the crossberry in the background - a disturbed wet meadow. Did you mention this krestovnik when you listed your steppe power?

Esox, your writing is a lie, and it borders on slander. And you know that very well. Don't you understand? ))
I was guided by the definition of the flora of Ukraine, we do not have such species, the nearest ones are in Western Europe. Or maybe there is, well, write the name? )
But don't hesitate, I will definitely say "your fe", megaexpert

And your "steppe" is just the remnants of the former variety, but this does not mean that you have everything there, just this piece of land is the only place you go, because it is visible under the house itself))) And outside the city in the gullies, everything is much cooler for you, there is a dream-grass, and brandushki, yarrow tansy, and clematis and Schrenka tulip,

About the power - I'll remind you again, expert!

This is still Boucher, I do not dispute. But a bot is not:

Esox.. This "twot" here-it's already clear that it's not Boucher, it's-
this is

It dawned on me))) Ezox, like a real mega-expert, thought that those two pictures showed the same bird-catcher, but of course, Ezox is not a reader, he is an expert)

 

In general, judging by the same CC, there were relatively many Apollo finds, and not only in the Carpathians, but also near Kiev quite a few. So they were there, but then they disappeared.
This is already a clear decline in the number, to zero
There is something global here, climate-related most likely.

Near Kiev, they definitely disappeared,I think they would have already been found somewhere if they were. Biotopes where he flew (discharged areas in old pine forests) have long been cut down and degraded. There are chances to find it only in the Carpathians, in the Zhytomyr region, and maybe in the Dniester Canyon.

I must quote again:

Oh, come on.. "there are no such" = there are no such as the Boucher bird's nest, and logically just any botanist will easily understand that these photos are different, and that the first one shows Boucher inflorescences. But this is a nerd, and this is an expert Esox. Your trouble is that you indiscriminately and from baldy said that there is no Bush on these photos, and also expressed your "fe" )) A normal researcher will not think so, and it's not about some kind of culture, but simply that the statement must be justified ))))

And when some mesophytes are added to the xerophytes in a depression in the steppe, for example, it can hardly be called a meadow, especially if this hole is about 10 m in diameter ))
By the way, in your mixed grass and meadow steppe, which is in your photos, such Boucher's bird-eaters should grow in abundance on the slopes - where are they? ))

Obviously, our Boucher bird lovers read the relevant literature, believe it, and are shy about growing outside the forest. But you don't grow them in the steppe, either. Now, if in the same place, in your beam there will be a depression of 1 sq. m in general, but with water, can you say that duckweed is a steppe plant? In general, I'm tired of you Roma, and photos of your ancient ones, too. I went to the steppe today. No, not in the megastep-yes, I almost reached it, but on such a mediocre poor-looking steppe slope like yours. Yes, the feather grass there is dofiga (hairy). Fortunately, I haven't managed to acquire the malware yet. And scabiosis just like yours:



It is understandable: the ground on this slope is bad, solid limestone. And in megastepi (tm) - greasy chernozem with a layer of several meters. That's why there is such a power there...

Now for the good news: I saw a swallowtail today. A large one. In the city (although at the very edge). The first specimen of the second generation I've seen here since 2005. And the first individual found in urban development since the early 2000s. So the population will slowly recover. God willing, in a few years I'll be looking at them again from my balcony.

But the general situation in nature is rather deplorable. If anything can be called a positive temperature anomaly, it is what we have now. Combined with a severe drought. Almost all the plants are dead, even the elderberry trees, which have not yet had time to bloom. You go along the slope of the beam and around it seems to be one solid dried bouquet. In some places, traces of small falls are still visible. Not spring, but summer! I don't remember anything like us. Is our Donetsk forest-steppe turning into a semblance of your dry-hardy province? God forbid! But some particularly drought-tolerant plants manage not to notice this oven and bloom as usual. In addition to the scabiosa shown above, they include tarragon solonechnik and individual specimens of field bluebottle (although most plants of this species have already dried to a dark brown color). There were just a lot of polysts on the solonechnik thickets, where you could easily collect 100 copies of each species based on samples of body length measurements. But I'm not a knacker! But on the blue head, in addition to polysts, there were scolias in the amount. I waited near it in the sun for about an hour, waiting for the arrival of the August maculata. Do you think she's flown in? Figushki, they, probably, at this time all under Nikolaev migrate. But there was some very interesting scolia with one yellow stripe on the abdomen, very much like Scolia schrenki, which we do not officially have. Although I read now that it can be such an unusual form of hirta. But I have a vague doubt: that scolia differed from the usual hirta not only in the number of yellow bandages, but also in size (smaller than the male hirta), and behavior: if the hirta grazed long and tiresomely on the inflorescences, then this one sat down for only a couple of seconds and was like this. I should have used the net right away, but I, like a fool, wanted to take a picture of this unknown animal in its natural environment first... I didn't even have time to set up the camera. But Hirt shot it well, didn't he:



I think I've found your azineuma among all the wilting vegetation:

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It? It's an extremely nondescript little thing, and if you hadn't Googled the pictures the day before to figure out what kind of animal you're so proud of, you wouldn't have noticed it. And yes, it grows not in the steppe, but on the edge of the forest. I've found a lot there before, but I thought it was such a sumptuous bell. But no, a separate genus, although the family is that. So you can add one more genus to the asset of our flora.

Ezoox... duckweed is not a steppe plant, it is an aquatic plant. But still, yes, if duckweed grows in a 10-meter bochag in the middle of the steppe, then it is quite possible to indicate the location-steppe bochag.
By the way, do you have a nostoc?
And where is this very grasshopper full? Ah and yes, azinevma this, she one have us such )

As for scolias and other animals, have you ever seen one ? I even know what some of them are called, but I don't know some of them )

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Nostock is different. The one that grows in the water is definitely there. I haven't seen any land ones. There's plenty of waddling around. What do you want to poke on the map? So you're not going to check it out anyway. What, I'm tired of being measured by plants - I started using animals? No, I don't intend to continue flooding this topic, I'm tired of it. Don't you know someone? So there is a corresponding topic, can I give you a link?

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But here we have-the whole steppe is dotted with ground nostoc, because there is power!
I look, these scolias finished off Ezox on the spot ))

I have already identified the upper wasp from the Red Book - it seems to be Cerceris tuberculata, so that's where the power is! ))))
And the cryptoheiluses that we have are huge and beautiful, only they are not given to take a picture yet)

There is nothing to argue in the Crimea and so a large variety of plants and animals . Donbass is inferior, but I think that the Donetsk region is still second, after the Crimea.

There is nothing to argue in the Crimea and so a large variety of plants and animals . Donbass is inferior, but I think that the Donetsk region is still second, after the Crimea .

Well, I do not live in the Crimea and in Nikolaev and these pictures are all from the south of the Nikolaev area And where in the Donetsk region kripetoheylyusy, six-point scolias, well, cerceris tuberculate? )

In general, it is quite an interesting topic - about diversity, quantitative estimates, somehow even for plants in all regions of Ukraine it is not easy to find data, but for animals and insects..
And the maximum variety of insects can be in the Odessa region most likely, if you already divide by admin.but it is better to divide by natural borders, and then-the Odessa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions are one region, and the Donetsk region is basically another region, and there will be less diversity
There are also quantitative indicators for biomass there are lame, here we have only one acrid-megatons, and straight-winged ones in general, lizards run one on top of another, fat runners crawl everywhere, in general, trophic chains are saturated, and there are something-three lizards per running kilometer and one tettigonia per hectare naevrnoe

  


And the maximum variety of insects can be in the Odessa region most likely, if you already divide by admin.borders, but it is better to divide by natural borders, and then-Odessa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions are one region

Well, you can't argue about the Odessa region and the surrounding territories, there is enough variety . The Donbass is actually a steppe region-the main habitat of rare marigolds and thick-heads, and not only that .

What kind of Crimea? He's never been there! And the profile so filled, apparently, out of a sense of envy for the Crimeans. And in Nikolavev, in general, the biodiversity is approximately at the same level as in our country. There's more to it than there is here. The only significant difference is that there are significantly more undisturbed areas. Because the soil is figgy. And in our country, almost everything was plowed under the tsar.

What kind of Crimea? He's never been there! And the profile so filled, apparently, out of a sense of envy for the Crimeans. And in Nikolavev, in general, the biodiversity is approximately at the same level as in our country. There's more to it than there is here. The only significant difference is that there are significantly more undisturbed areas. Because the soil is figgy. And in our country, almost everything was plowed under the tsar.

Again lies, Ezoks, South Coast-this is not the whole Crimea
and in Nikolaev, the biodiversity is generally at the level of an ordinary large city, but outside the city-yes, the biodiversity is good, and perhaps in the Donetsk region it is even worse. But then there is a "Crimean vopris", Ezoks, and you were at least once outside the city in any of those beams that you have there full, passed this beam for at least 20 km? The answer is predictable ))))

What attempts? So what do you have there for lizards, there are also 3-4 of them per 1 square meter, which is on the runners, they live under each stone? How many runners have you seen this season and lizards. I think you will answer the last question, but I will not, because I have seen countless lizards )) Well, probably a hundred runners)

Is it non-contagious?

Aruginosa in the steppe? Well, well. Whether you are completely illiterate in geobotany and interpret the concept of "steppe" too broadly, whether you are in coleopterology and can't distinguish between bronzes, or both at once. Does the oak barbel also live in the steppe? And deer? And the discelia are there, too? Do they make nests in grass stalks? By the way, we have a lot of deer beetles, I recently posted good photos in the corresponding section, look and lick your lips. I haven't seen an oak barbel yet. Well, again, as you like to say, it's not a fact that it doesn't exist.

Esox.. Have you ever heard of such a thing as crowding? Unfortunately, in some large gullies we have planted trees in the most interesting areas, and the most diverse, including oak forests, by the way, I live near one of these oak forests, and that's where I found a deer beetle. And in the steppe we have real deer found, those kotoyre not only with horns but also with hooves))

and then - the Odessa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions are one region, and the Donetsk region is basically another region, and there will be less diversity

Are you kidding me? Donetsk and Luhansk will give other regions a head start in terms of diversity.
I'm not a specialist in plants, but here's an example with numbers: one of the best - preserved areas of the steppes of the Donetsk Ridge-the Provalskaya Steppe-covers an area of just under 600 ha - 800 plant species.
On my topic (lepidoptera) I will say - for the most studied groups - bulavousym, sovkovym-hardly anyone can compare, in the same Provalye there are at least 300 species of scoops, in Streltsovka-even more.

and cryptocheilus - I assume it's the Red Book? sorry for the quality, I didn't let you in, and the epaulettes are not mine - there was no goal to take a picture.

Are you kidding me? Donetsk and Luhansk will give other regions a head start in terms of diversity.
I'm not a specialist in plants, but here's an example with numbers: one of the best - preserved areas of the steppes of the Donetsk Ridge-the Provalskaya Steppe-covers an area of just under 600 ha - 800 plant species.
On my own topic (lepidoptera), I will say that for the most studied groups - bulavous, scoops - hardly anyone can compare, in the same Proval there are at least 300 species of scoops, in Streltsovka-even more.

As I mentioned earlier in these two areas, the fauna is very diverse in many types of butterflies, not only diurnal, but also nocturnal. Hooray, comrades . Just open the red book and see who's who . Donbass, rulit .

that's just very poorly studied, especially just the ridge part where the main massifs of the steppe. And, unfortunately, it won't be in the coming years. New species for Ukraine can sometimes be caught in the city.

Are you kidding me? Donetsk and Luhansk will give other regions a head start in terms of diversity.
I'm not a specialist in plants, but here's an example with numbers: one of the best - preserved areas of the steppes of the Donetsk Ridge-the Provalskaya Steppe-covers an area of just under 600 ha - 800 plant species.
On my own topic (lepidoptera), I will say that for the most studied groups - bulavous, scoops - hardly anyone can compare, in the same Proval there are at least 300 species of scoops, in Streltsovka-even more.

Well, first of all, it all has to do with the Luhansk region more, we are arguing about the Donetsk region here
The species diversity in the Luhansk region is high due to the mixing of different zones-forest, steppe, there are chalk, granite steppes, etc.
But also in the Mykolaiv, Odesa and Kherson regions, this is also the case

Here is a link to the number of Red Book plants by region. Do not forget that botanica in the east is studied many times better than in the south of Ukraine, so the number of plant species in our country is most likely underestimated.
http://redbook-ua.org/ru/plants/region
Mykolaiv and Kherson and Odessa regions include the areas of many Pontic species, extremely southern, as well as the usual southern steppe and granite forest-steppes with a transition to a forest zone.
So the question of where more variety is not so simple ))))))

and cryptocheilus - I assume it's the Red Book? sorry for the quality, I didn't let you in, and the epaulettes are not mine - there was no goal to take a picture.

For me personally, all wildlife is interesting, and jargon is evil)
And so yes, like cryptoheilus, red book, but where is it photographed, that's the question?)