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22.01.2013 10:52, akulich-sibiria

Alexander, on the previous page there will be time to look at a couple of oss that I posted.
Thank you in advance!

22.01.2013 11:56, TimK

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22.01.2013 17:54, AVA

Hello. Since it's so hard , please tell me at least the family!


So all bees are in the same family - Apidae... wink.gif
And this one is from the subfamily Halictinae
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22.01.2013 19:41, алекс 2611

So all bees are in the same family - Apidae... wink.gif
And this one is from the subfamily Halictinae


I will say more-tribe Halictini
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23.01.2013 12:37, nechet5

help me determine
what was shot in Mathura (India)

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24.01.2013 9:41, AVA

Alexander, on the previous page there will be time to look at a couple of oss that I posted.
Thank you in advance!


With the first species (Ectemnius schlettereri) You've hit the nail on the head.

But there's a problem with the second one... Look closely at the venation. In particular, it affects the position of the outer edge of the 3rd submarginal cell relative to the vertex of the marginal one, as well as the shape of the 2nd submarginal cell.
In Podalonia, the 3rd submarginal cell extends beyond the top of the marginal cell from the outside, and the 2nd submarginal cell is noticeably narrowed in front and expanded in the back.
In your specimen, it is in the form of a narrow parallelogram, which is typical for some genera of Sphecini. In your case, it's Palmodes. But it is more difficult to reach the species, since males there are best distinguished not only by genitals, but also by the shape of the 7th sternite.
Good luck.
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24.01.2013 11:35, akulich-sibiria

With the first species (Ectemnius schlettereri) You've hit the nail on the head.

But there's a problem with the second one... Look closely at the venation. In particular, it affects the position of the outer edge of the 3rd submarginal cell relative to the vertex of the marginal one, as well as the shape of the 2nd submarginal cell.
In Podalonia, the 3rd submarginal cell extends beyond the top of the marginal cell from the outside, and the 2nd submarginal cell is noticeably narrowed in front and expanded in the back.
In your specimen, it is in the form of a narrow parallelogram, which is typical for some genera of Sphecini. In your case, it's Palmodes. But it is more difficult to reach the species, since males there are best distinguished not only by genitals, but also by the shape of the 7th sternite.
Success.



I think I defined this podalonia according to Dollfuss's article. I'll check again carefully for Palmodes. But I looked at the structure of the genitals and the 7th sternite! Although there is a small question on one angle.

24.01.2013 13:11, akulich-sibiria

Alexander, you're right. Only I think it's Sphex funerarius, a spur on the hind legs with thick black bristles. Spiracle on the first tergite in the first half of the segment. On the last stubble thick dark hairs. The interval field.a segment in a poorly defined sculpture.

24.01.2013 14:29, AVA

Alexander, you're right. Only I think it's Sphex funerarius, a spur on the hind legs with thick black bristles. Spiracle on the first tergite in the first half of the segment. On the last stubble thick dark hairs. The interval field.a segment in a poorly defined sculpture.


Hmm, but in representatives of the genus Sphex, the 2nd submarginal cell is wide - almost of equal length and width

24.01.2013 16:29, akulich-sibiria

Hmm, but in representatives of the genus Sphex, the 2nd submarginal cell is wide - almost equal in length and width



but what about the totality of the other attributes I listed? On Palmodes ah nor as I get not can. confused.gif

29.01.2013 20:15, Woodmen

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30.01.2013 13:08, John-ST

20.09.2012
Moscow Region, Zheleznodorozhny

1. Polistes
I'm a little behind the times, as far as I understand gallicus in "green" is gallicus+dominulus, or still dominulus; how do these species differ?
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2. Here is such a bee?
What kind of egg does she have on her shield?
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30.01.2013 16:10, AVA

20.09.2012
Moscow Region, Zheleznodorozhny

1. Polistes
I'm a little behind the times, as far as I understand gallicus in "green" is gallicus+dominulus, or still dominulus; how do these species differ?
2. Here is such a bee?
What kind of egg does she have on her shield?


1 is a male Polistes dominula. I won't tell you how they differ yet. This is my little secret. wink.gif I can only say that P. gallicus is not found in the MO.
2-it is clear that the female is some kind of halicta. It is impossible to determine from such photos. But the object on the shield may not be an egg at all, but a grain of pollen.
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31.01.2013 1:22, John-ST

1 is a male Polistes dominula. I won't tell you how they differ yet. This is my little secret. wink.gif I can only say that P. gallicus is not found in the MO.
2-it is clear that the female is some kind of halicta. It is impossible to determine from such photos. But the object on the shield may not be an egg at all, but a grain of pollen.


And there are some articles on Polistes dominula / gallicus, I could only find that the dominant with the gallica used to be mixed and most of the articles related to the gallica are actually about the dominula, a lot of articles about social organization and the invasion of the dominant in North America.
It seems to me that recently the number of polysts in the Moscow region has increased very much, while the number of other vespins has decreased, with the exception of hornets, they seem to me to come across more often.

31.01.2013 9:09, AVA

And there are some articles on Polistes dominula / gallicus, I could only find that the dominant with the gallica used to be mixed and most of the articles related to the gallica are actually about the dominula, a lot of articles about social organization and the invasion of the dominant in North America.
It seems to me that recently the number of polysts in the Moscow region has increased very much, while the number of other vespins has decreased, with the exception of hornets, they seem to me to come across more often.


Naturally, there is. Search the Web for the work of, for example, Czech Libor Dvorak (Libor Dvorak). There are no Russian-language works, as we simply do not have taxonomists, with the exception of your humble servant. Everyone who works with polysts is traditionally focused on behavior. At the same time, they themselves are sometimes confused with species.
Your observations correspond to reality. Over the past 10 years, the number of polysts (especially P. nimpha) in the Moscow region has increased markedly. There are several reasons - from the mythical "global warming" to banal economic ones (for example, the expansion of dacha construction and the reduction of the pressure on chemical treatment of gardens).
As for the vespins, their numbers are subject to the usual periodic fluctuations - there are many of them and they are annoying, then you will not find them during the day with fire. This also applies to hornets. It is ok.
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04.02.2013 14:19, John-ST

Naturally, there is. Search the Web for the work of, for example, Czech Libor Dvorak (Libor Dvorak).


Thank you so much for finding " Key to the paper and social wasps of Central Europe (Hymenoptera: Vespidae)"

Nizhnechirskaya village, Volgograd region

1. 17.04.2012
P. dominula female?
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2. 15.07.2012
P. gallicus?
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MO, Zheleznodorozhny

3. 04.09.2012
P. dominulus male?
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4. 04.09.2012
P. nymphus male?
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5. 13.09.2012
P. dominulus male?
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6. 13.09.2012
P. dominulus male?
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This post was edited by John-ST-04.02.2013 14: 31

06.02.2013 23:13, Natura

Help me identify the wasp (?) from Dosang (Astrakhan) - photo1 and, please tell me in what topic to look for reticulatoptera-photo2, in particular ant lions?
Thank you in advance.

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07.02.2013 7:52, maik

Good morning. Yesterday, tahina hatched, was in the caterpillar of the bear. Stavropol
Thelaira nigripes ?
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08.02.2013 8:02, akulich-sibiria

and what does eardrums have to do with it??

08.02.2013 12:28, maik

and what does eardrums have to do with it??

ok let's pass

08.02.2013 15:54, TimK

There are no Russian-language works, as we simply do not have taxonomists, with the exception of your humble servant. Everyone who works with polysts is traditionally focused on behavior. At the same time, they themselves are sometimes confused with species.

In my opinion, Lydia Rusina from the University of Kherson is a specialist in polysts.

09.02.2013 2:38, Coelioxys

She is a specialist in the study of the behavior of polysters.
And she sings soulfully, and in general a very nice aunt wink.gif

10.02.2013 3:25, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Help me identify the wasp (?) from Dosang (Astrakhan) - photo1 and, please tell me in what topic to look for reticulatoptera-photo2, in particular ant lions?
Thank you in advance.

the wasp here is clearly from the Sphex family.
maybe someone will say before the view

10.02.2013 17:42, AVA

Thank you so much for finding " Key to the paper and social wasps of Central Europe (Hymenoptera: Vespidae)"

Nizhnechirskaya village, Volgograd region

1. 17.04.2012
P. dominula female?
2. 15.07.2012
P. gallicus?

MO, Zheleznodorozhny

3. 04.09.2012
P. dominulus male?
4. 04.09.2012
P. nymphus male?
5. 13.09.2012
P. dominulus male?
6. 13.09.2012
P. dominulus male?


1 a,b - Polistes dominula, females
2 a,b - Polistes dominula, females
3 a,b - Polistes dominula, males
4 a,b - Polistes nimpha, males
5 a,b - Polistes nimpha, males
6 a - Polistes dominula, male
6 b - Polistes nimpha, male

10.02.2013 17:49, AVA

the wasp here is clearly from the Sphex family.
maybe someone will say before the appearance


Hmm, but the wasp here is clearly of a different kind. Namely, from the genus Prionyx. wink.gif

Try to determine for yourself based on the latest revision:
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/z03526p071f.pdf

11.02.2013 0:50, алекс 2611

Hmm, but the wasp here is clearly of a different kind. Namely, from the genus Prionyx. wink.gif

Try to determine for yourself based on the latest revision:
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/z03526p071f.pdf

I wanted to try to identify my own lookalike. But the link opens only the first page of the work. frown.gif There is no identifying key.

11.02.2013 2:11, Coelioxys

The author is not rich enough to pay $ 20 per page for open accesswink.gif, but just write to him and he will be happy to send the article file wink.gif

11.02.2013 3:09, John-ST

1 a,b - Polistes dominula, females
2 a,b - Polistes dominula, females
3 a,b - Polistes dominula, males
4 a,b - Polistes nimpha, males
5 a,b - Polistes nimpha, males
6 a - Polistes dominula, male
6 b - Polistes nimpha, male

Thank
you Looked at the uncut versions of the pictures, 6 b really turned out to be the muzzle of the face of a friend under No. 5.
And how is it still correct dominula/dominulus, nimpha/nimphus

This post was edited by John-ST-11.02.2013 03: 11

11.02.2013 10:10, AVA

I wanted to try to identify my own lookalike. But the link opens only the first page of the work. frown.gif There is no definitive key.


Alexey, I sent you a copy by soap. I just forgot that Zootaxa is a limited-access publication. frown.gif

P.S. If someone needs something, I will try to help you expand your capabilities, i.e. if you have a pdf* ' approx. Write to mylo
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11.02.2013 10:26, AVA

Thank
you Looked at the uncut versions of the pictures, 6 b really turned out to be the muzzle of the face of a friend under No. 5.
And how is it still correct dominula/dominulus, nimpha/nimphus


Well, it's simple.

Initially, both species were described in the genus Vespa, and the endings of the species names did not raise any questions. The problems started with the selection of the genus Polistes. The fact is that in Latin Vespa has a feminine grammatical gender, and Polistes - masculine. Therefore, for formal reasons and without understanding Latin grammar, many people used (and, unfortunately, continue to use) the masculine endings-us for these specific names.

However, in Latin, dominula and nimpha are not adjectives, but nouns, i.e. "hostess" and " nymph (bride)". And, in accordance with the rules of the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature, in such cases, the agreement of the endings of generic and specific names is not required.

So, the correct names are Polistes dominul a and Polistes nimph a.

By the way, the species Polistes gallicus was originally also described under the name "Vespa gallica". But in this case, the specific name is an adjective "Gali" (=French, in the current way), and, therefore, requires matching its ending with the ending of the generic name, i.e. Polistes gallicus.

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11.02.2013 11:44, алекс 2611

Well, it's simple.


Following your clarification is really simple and clear.

11.02.2013 15:54, AVA

Following your clarification is really simple and clear.


Well yeah.. But the most interesting thing is that it took as much as 2 centuries to make it simple and clear. eek.gif

Usually, ordinary people imagine an entomologist-taxonomist as a certain paganel - an ungainly little man with a net. And sometimes it seems to me that our work is more like the work of an investigator of the prosecutor's office, who for any step has to dig through a lot of literature and necessarily support his words with the relevant decisions of the Nomenclature Commission and articles of the International Code... Here are the cases. rolleyes.gif
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11.02.2013 16:21, Natura

Following your clarification is really simple and clear.

If everything is so simple, then maybe let Nature know at least the options for my photo? I've searched the Internet here, not really hoping for helpers, and I'm inclined to believe that I have P. (Calosphex) haberhaueri Rad, 1871. But there are a few other Prioniks for the south of Russia and Kazakhstan that I didn't find the image for:
P. nigropectinstus Tasch
P. niveatus Duf
P. crudelis (F. Smith, 1793)
P. nudatus (Kohl, 1885)
It is certainly not professional to determine the os by "similarity" and, nevertheless, thank you for "Prionyx" .

11.02.2013 17:11, AVA

If everything is so simple, then maybe let Nature know at least the options for my photo? I've searched the Internet here, not really hoping for helpers, and I'm inclined to believe that I have P. (Calosphex) haberhaueri Rad, 1871. But there are a few other Prioniks for the south of Russia and Kazakhstan that I didn't find the image for:
P. nigropectinstus Tasch
P. niveatus Duf
P. crudelis (F. Smith, 1793)
P. nudatus (Kohl, 1885)
It is certainly not professional to determine the os by "similarity" and, nevertheless, thank you for "Prionyx".


Well, actually, "just" referred to discussing the names of polysters, not your kind.

From the list you suggested, the first 2 species have light edges on the tergites of the abdomen, the 3rd-yellowish wings with a completely black abdomen, and the last - rather small with a red base of the abdomen, but without light edges. This is by color, although the differences, of course, are not in it.

As for the "option" you suggested, it doesn't correspond to reality at all. See what one of the "most beautiful"species of this genus looks like:

http://macroid.ru/showphoto.php?photo=69976

I do not know your E-mail number. Just write me a quick message and I'll send you a copy of this revision. It is in English, but I believe that there will be no problems with the definition table.
Success.

PS
By the way, unfortunately, some important generic signs are not visible in your picture. You didn't even specify the size... Try once again to determine the genus at least by the "Green" determinant (all subgenera indicated there for the genus Sphex should be considered independent genera!!!)
I have a sneaking suspicion that it might also be Palmodes, such as P. orientalis or P. occitanicus. But without a copy and with a photo from this angle, you can't tell.

This post was edited by AVA - 11.02.2013 17: 26

12.02.2013 21:40, ASSIB

Most likely - Auplopus carbonarius

But there are black and anopliuses. It's a pity that the front and back of the pompila are poorly visible in the photo.

13.02.2013 10:49, AVA

But there are black and anopliuses. It's a pity that the front and back of the pompila are poorly visible in the photo.


And not only them.
That's why I wrote that "most likely". wink.gif

14.02.2013 15:23, Woodmen

Without much hope, and suddenly, at least to the genus-family.

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. May 30.

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15.02.2013 1:18, jiakomolery

Good afternoon! Hopefully, I turn to the professionals: can not experts estimate what kind of osmia (or maybe not osmia) live in our country? Zaporozhye region. All photographed in spring, late April, early May.

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15.02.2013 16:25, Stas Shinkarenko

Can you tell me, please, who is it that "filled up" the cicada?

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15.02.2013 19:32, jiakomolery

Someone from the sand wasp family crabronidae.

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