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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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10.01.2013 23:57, ASSIB

Hello. Please tell me the names of these phones. All of them were taken at our CMS. Sincerely, Andreas.

3 It appears to be Anoplius concinnus (Dahlbom, 1843), f
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11.01.2013 0:45, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Do you want to see the view? smile.gif

is everything so complicated with them? is it really only determined by the genitals? frown.gif

11.01.2013 1:48, Андреас

3 It appears to be Anoplius concinnus (Dahlbom, 1843), f

It also seems to me (as an amateur) that Anoplius nigerrimus has much thicker hind legs than our own. In addition, nigerrimus likes wet biotopes - and in that place there was a very dry, rocky southern slope of the foot of Mount Yutsa.

This post was edited by Andreas - 11.01.2013 01: 49

11.01.2013 2:08, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Sphex flavipennis?

Ukraine, Poltava region, Poltava, Leninsky district, right bank of the river. Vorskla, raznotravye, on flowers
49°36 ' 06 "From
34°35' 33 " In
02. VII. 2012

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11.01.2013 6:46, akulich-sibiria

Panurgus calcaratus probably

well, maybe he is just right. I have exactly this kind wink.gifBut this is Ukraine, so I'm up to the genus only. There were already moments when I went to a strange monastery with my charter.. smile.gif
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11.01.2013 11:20, TimK

Hello there. Please help me with the names. I didn't shoot these ants, but a friend did in mid - June, so I can't say the size. Everything was shot on the slope of Dubrovka/Shaven mountain. The grassy vegetation is well preserved there. Ant # 5 on an orris bud is not real.
Can you at least get to the family of an egg-eater? I took it on the way back in the wooded area between the fields.

Ant No. 5 of the genus Myrmica. I can't be more precise. It is necessary to look at the base of the antennae, the spines of the epinotum and the first segment of the stalk under magnification.
Ant No. 6 of the genus Camponotus. Most likely Camponotus aethiops.
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11.01.2013 20:21, Андреас

- So this is deaf even to the family? frown.gif "And even more so before Rod?"
Filmed bulo in the city center of Pyatigorsk on July 14.

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11.01.2013 20:39, Anatoliy Kuzmin

Please define it. 30.10.12. Rostov region.

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11.01.2013 22:24, Андреас

And about this "single bee" put in a word, please! Taken on August 16 on Mount Mashuk, in a flowerbed on ochitka (heat - almost no wild flowers) near the sanatorium. Around the forest, but 50 meters to the south - the southern rocky steppe slope.

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11.01.2013 23:27, ASSIB

It also seems to me (as an amateur) that Anoplius nigerrimus has much thicker hind legs than our own. In addition, nigerrimus likes wet biotopes - and in that place there was a very dry, rocky southern slope of the foot of Mount Yutsa.

According to biotopes, it is true (A. nigerrimus prefers wet (most numerous in the upper swamps) habitats. Morphology: the main thing is not the "thick" legs, but the venation of the forewings.
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11.01.2013 23:46, алекс 2611

is everything so complicated with them? is it really only determined by the genitals? frown.gif

on the weekend I will try to say something about this nomad, but I can't guarantee an exact definition

12.01.2013 16:10, Андреас

People-please tell me - who exactly (myrmycologists) can I contact regarding the definition of an ant from a photo?
- To the ANTCLUB website.EN login/register (especially because of one password) is not difficult/does not work.
"I've only heard about Dlussky," but the man is already 75, " and it's not convenient to disturb him without being familiar...

12.01.2013 17:35, Коллекционер

is it really possible to identify this friend before the view from the photo?
(Somewhere in Lipetsk)
Astata sp. ♂
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and 1 more (ibid.)
Palarus variegatus (Fabricius, 1781)? something on the green I understand they do not go
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This post was edited by Collector - 12.01.2013 18: 40

13.01.2013 3:43, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Cerceris sp.. maybe someone will help before the appearance

Ukraine, Poltava region, Poltava, Leninsky district, right bank of the river. Vorskla, raznotravye, on the inflorescence of Melilotus albus.
49°36 '06.89" From
34°35 '33.44"In
05. VII. 2012
leg. E. V. Rybalchenko

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13.01.2013 20:49, алекс 2611

Nomada sp. from mayevok)

Ukraine, Poltava region, Poltava, Leninsky district, right bank of the river. Vorskla, listv. forest, on the inflorescence of Taraxacum officinale.
09. V. 2011

It is similar to Nomada ruficornis (Linnaeus 1758).
Note that in the" green "determinant, this species is called Nomada bifida Thomson 1872
And Nomada ruficornis from "green" is a different species.
I don't think it's worth repeating that this is just a guess.

13.01.2013 21:13, Коллекционер

what is the correct Cryptocheilus (A.) var i pennis (as indicated in the qualifier) or C. (A.) var ii pennis (as suggested by the internet)?
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13.01.2013 22:01, алекс 2611

what is the correct Cryptocheilus (A.) var i pennis (as indicated in the qualifier) or C. (A.) var ii pennis (as suggested by the internet)?
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What does the genus Cryptocheilus have to do with your photo?

14.01.2013 0:27, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

It is similar to Nomada ruficornis (Linnaeus 1758).
Note that in the" green "determinant, this species is called Nomada bifida Thomson 1872
And Nomada ruficornis from "green" is a different species.
I don't think it's worth repeating that this is just a guess.

thanks for the suggestion, too. it looks very similar. do you think other nomads should not be loaded here, or should they be shown just for fun?

14.01.2013 6:43, OEV

what is the correct Cryptocheilus (A.) var i pennis (as indicated in the qualifier) or C. (A.) var ii pennis (as suggested by the internet)?
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And again they got into the milk, but when you take up the webbing, there's an eye and an eye umnik.gif. To paraphrase Alex 2611, " What does your photo have to do with the genus lol.gifCryptocheilus?" So be it, I will direct you to the right path, in the photo a representative of the sem. Crabronidae, Dinetus possibly pictus, female.

This post was edited by OEV - 14.01.2013 06: 54
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14.01.2013 10:36, алекс 2611

thanks for the suggestion, too. it looks very similar. do you think other nomads should not be loaded here, or should they be shown just for fun?

Upload it. If the European part of the former USSR, then maybe at least some thought will express. In any case, it will be nice to see it, even if you can't determine it. smile.gif
Only if you can, try also to take a photo of the top of the hind leg - there are usually a variety of spines that are important for determining. Sometimes the upper lip is also interesting (such garbage under the trim, also happens with spikes)

14.01.2013 10:57, алекс 2611

To paraphrase Alex 2611, " What does your photo have to do with the genus lol.gifCryptocheilus?"

You got it more accurately than I did shuffle.gif

14.01.2013 13:58, Коллекционер

And again they got into the milk, but when you take up the webbing, there's an eye and an eye umnik.gif. To paraphrase Alex 2611, " What does your photo have to do with the genus lol.gifCryptocheilus?" So be it, I will direct you to the right path, in the photo a representative of the sem. Crabronidae, Dinetus possibly pictus, female.

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kaaak
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what then is the determinant to use to.. mad.gif

P.S. and I really thought that everything was fine.. when did you get to the last point
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This post was edited by Collector - 14.01.2013 14: 17

14.01.2013 14:05, TimK

Please define it. 30.10.12. Rostov region.

Most likely a worker from the Lasius family. It would also be nice to specify the size.
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14.01.2013 14:11, TimK

People-please tell me - who exactly (myrmycologists) can I contact regarding the definition of an ant from a photo?
- To the ANTCLUB website.EN login/register (especially because of one password) is not difficult/does not work.
"I've only heard about Dlussky," but the man is already 75, " and it's not convenient to disturb him without being familiar...

I'm not an expert, but try to contact me first (if it's not very difficult), then you can try yourself with the determinant on http://www.antvid.org/
Then you can contact specialists. I myself am tormented by the question of how to distinguish Formica subpilosa. I can't figure out how to distinguish this species from rufibarbis. In the index of insects of the European part of the USSR, subpilosa has 1-3 pairs of hairs on the underside of the head. Rufibarbis has no hairs.
If you read Dlussky's "Ants of the genus formica", then there is a whole table of definitions of subspecies of subpilosa and the characters are so different that they are suitable for both rufibarbis and cunicularia... Where should the poor peasant go?
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14.01.2013 14:39, алекс 2611

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kaaak
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what then is the determinant to use to.. mad.gif

You see, this volume of the determinant was published in 1978 (I don't think I'm lying). Over the past 34 years, our understanding of OS taxonomy has changed slightly. The Specidae family was divided into 3 separate families. Nothing terrible happened. In any case, your wasp can not be attributed to pompilids, in any case, you should have entered the subfamily Crabroninae of the Specidae family. And the fact that this subfamily has been given the status of an independent family should not worry you too much.
Of course, the" green " determinant is rather imperfect, but first learn how to correctly determine the os before the genus. And then they will certainly help you on the forum, prompt you, send you modern literature.

14.01.2013 14:42, алекс 2611

  

P.S. and I really thought that everything was fine.. when did you get to the last point
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And the size is not confused???? Your instance is probably smaller than the specified 11-18 mm

14.01.2013 15:32, Андреас

I'm not an expert, but try to contact me first (if it's not very difficult), then you can try yourself with the determinant on http://www.antvid.org/
Then you can contact specialists.

So I'm just an amateur! "
Besides, I only have a picture!"
Here is this Messor want to know the name. - They live within the city limits of Pyatigorsk on the southern slope of Goryachaya Mountain, formed by travertines-deposits of hot mineral (hydrogen sulfide) springs gushing on the slopes of Mashuk. Collect seeds of cereals. They crawl slowly. They appear even on warm winter days.
In http://www.antvid.org/ (comparing from the photo) - there is almost no choice for reflection - only Messor structor is suitable.

This post was edited by Andreas - 14.01.2013 15: 44

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14.01.2013 15:48, Коллекционер

You see, this volume of the determinant was published in 1978 (I don't think I'm lying). Over the past 34 years, our understanding of OS taxonomy has changed slightly. The Specidae family was divided into 3 separate families. Nothing terrible happened. In any case, your wasp can not be attributed to pompilids, in any case, you should have entered the subfamily Crabroninae of the Specidae family. And the fact that this subfamily has been given the status of an independent family should not worry you too much.
Of course, the" green " determinant is rather imperfect, but first learn how to correctly determine the os before the genus. And then they will certainly help you on the forum, prompt you, send you modern literature.



And the size is not confused???? Your copy is probably smaller than the specified 11-18 mm.

/and where can I read about it?

I don't understand why yesterday I didn't pay attention to the size..
and why I was so wrong, I also understood only now.. yesterday I didn't notice shoulder bumps in poor light rolleyes.gif

14.01.2013 15:50, TimK

So I'm just an amateur! "
Besides, I only have a picture!"
Here is this Messor want to know the name. - They live within the city limits of Pyatigorsk on the southern slope of Goryachaya Mountain, formed by travertines-deposits of hot mineral (hydrogen sulfide) springs gushing on the slopes of Mashuk. Collect seeds of cereals. They crawl slowly. They appear even on warm winter days.
In http://www.antvid.org/ (comparing from the photo) - there is almost no choice for reflection - only Messor structor is suitable.

Judging by the inscription under the photo, this is Messor smile.gif))
But seriously, all single-color reapers with a matte head in Russia can be attributed to Messor structor. The only thing that can be misleading is that the two-colored reaper species (with a red breast) have small individuals that are also black and unicolored. But they are more shiny compared to Messor structor.
I think the photo is Messor structor.
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14.01.2013 15:59, TimK

Judging by the inscription under the photo, this is Messor smile.gif))
But seriously, all single-color reapers with a matte head in Russia can be attributed to Messor structor. The only thing that can be misleading is that the two-colored reaper species (with a red breast) have small individuals that are also black and unicolored. But they are more shiny compared to Messor structor.
I think it's Messor structor in the photo.

A small correction: all single-color reapers with a matte head in the European part of Russia can be attributed to Messor structor. In the identification of insects of the European part of the USSR, another species was indicated - Messor rufitarsis, but now it is a synonym for Messor structor.
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14.01.2013 16:18, алекс 2611

  /and where can I read about it?


I'm afraid it's time to start learning English slowly...

14.01.2013 16:24, алекс 2611

  
and why I was so wrong, I also understood only now.. Yesterday, in poor light, I didn't notice any shoulder bumps rolleyes.gif

There is also a venation of the front wings, well, very different. In general, if you are interested in hymenoptera, then carefully study the venation of the wings, even in the "green" determinant, and try to understand where the various veins and cells are located and what they are called. Believe me, it will help a lot.

14.01.2013 16:57, OEV

  There is also a venation of the front wings, well, very different. In general, if you are interested in hymenoptera, then carefully study the venation of the wings, even in the "green" determinant, and try to understand where the various veins and cells are located and what they are called. Believe me, it will help a lot.


Sergey listen to the words of Alexey and I also advised you to pay attention to wing venation (number, shape and size of cells) before, but you rested and pay attention to the location of spots, etc. very changeable things for the diagnosis. good luck to you smile.gif

This post was edited by OEV - 14.01.2013 16: 58

14.01.2013 17:05, Коллекционер

Sergey listen to the words of Alexey and I also advised you to pay attention to wing venation (number, shape and size of cells) before, but you rested and pay attention to the location of spots, etc. very changeable things for the diagnosis. good luck to you smile.gif

dy I kind of know the venation smile.gif

14.01.2013 17:12, OEV

Dy I think I know venation smile.gif


Your posts and questions suggest otherwise umnik.gif

14.01.2013 17:14, Коллекционер

Your posts and questions suggest otherwise umnik.gif

this is inexperience shuffle.gif

14.01.2013 22:47, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Nomad with an untidily glued mustache
Ukraine, Poltava region, Poltava, Leninsky district, right bank of the river Vorskla, raznotravye, on flowers
49°36 ' 06 "From
34°35' 33 " In
02. VII. 2012
leg. E. V. Rybalchenko
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and from the same May days as that suspect

Ukraine, Poltava region, Poltava, Leninsky district, right bank of the river. Vorskla, listv. forest, on the inflorescence of Taraxacum officinale.
49°35 '44.74"From
34°35 '35.87"In
09. V. 2011
leg. E. V. Rybalchenko

Nomada sp. 1
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Nomada sp. 2
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I tormented the soap dish as best I could, but I'm afraid not everything I need is visible

15.01.2013 12:28, AVA

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15.01.2013 17:00, Коллекционер

Alomya, right?
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15.01.2013 20:36, Evgeniy Ribalchenko

Alomya, right?
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Alomya, yes, a female. I dare to express an artistic assumption that it is very similar in appearance to debellator and you may well meet

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