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05.11.2015 21:17, алекс 2611

Ne, a sharp marginal cell with a tip on the edge of the wing, 3 submarginal cells, and even strongly pubescent lower legs of the hind legs. This is definitely not megahilina.
Which sounds a lot like Andren to me...


How do you see all this? I'm not good at parsing such photos. For the life of me, I don't see three submarginal ones. Rather, two are seen, approximately the same size as those of megachilids.
And marginal at an angle and also quite suitable for megahilida.
Yes, not osmium, of course, but I've never seen an Andrena with such a dotted line and metallic sheen.
And you can't think of anything else

05.11.2015 22:05, John-ST

Is this also Macropis?
MO, Zheleznodorozhny
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05.11.2015 22:22, Кархарот

How do you see all this? I'm not good at parsing such photos. For the life of me, I don't see three submarginal ones. Rather, two are seen, approximately the same size as those of megachilids.
And marginal at an angle and also quite suitable for megahilida.
Yes, not osmium, of course, but I've never seen an Andrena with such a dotted line and metallic sheen.
I can't think of anything else

Submarginal-three, clearly visible. It is very similar to osmium, but the venation is not the same and the head is not the same. Andren also has a different head. It remains to accept that this is Anthophora furcata, which for some reason turned blue (color distortion?).
But it doesn't look like it - http://www.bwars.com/sites/www.bwars.com/f....jpg?1334750311

This post was edited by Carcharot - 05.11.2015 22: 24

05.11.2015 22:23, Кархарот

Is this also Macropis?
Moscow Region, Zheleznodorozhny

Да.
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05.11.2015 22:25, Кархарот

Good day everyone!
Please identify the bee:
On a country road, der. Pozdnyakova street, Irkutsk district, Irkutsk region 27.08.2015.

More like Seladonia.

05.11.2015 23:15, ИНО

. It remains to accept that this is Anthophora furcata, which for some reason turned blue (color distortion?).
But it doesn't look like it - http://www.bwars.com/sites/www.bwars.com/f....jpg?1334750311

Where is the blue one? If we are talking about this photo:
user posted image
(and, having tracked the rather confusing course of the discussion, I go to it), then the only blue is interference on the wing, then this. But the bee that follows the link is really completely different. Although, as it turned out today, unlike wasps and ants, I have no sense of smell at all...

P.S. It is possible that there may be misunderstandings by individual participants (perhaps? even by me) discussion structures, i.e. confusion between photos and comments...

This post was edited INO-05.11.2015 23: 20

06.11.2015 0:32, AVA

How do you see all this? I'm not good at parsing such photos. For the life of me, I don't see three submarginal ones. Rather, two are seen, approximately the same size as those of megachilids.
And marginal at an angle and also quite suitable for megahilida.
Yes, not osmium, of course, but I've never seen an Andrena with such a dotted line and metallic sheen.
I can't think of anything else


A little secret. When I come across such photos, I copy them to a graphic editor and do some magic with contrast and sharpness there. Sometimes it's not bad. wink.gif
The top of the marginal cell in megachilines is more or less rounded and is located away from the wing edge. And here it is definitely sharp and will not stand up.
But I've seen the "metal" Andren, there are also such! umnik.gif
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06.11.2015 0:37, AVA

More like Seladonia.


No, not again. In this case, the basal vein is almost straight, and not strongly curved, as it should be in celadonia!
You give it to Andren! jump.gif

06.11.2015 0:39, AVA

Submarginal-three, clearly visible. It is very similar to osmium, but the venation is not the same and the head is not the same. Andren also has a different head. It remains to accept that this is Anthophora furcata, which for some reason turned blue (color distortion?).
But it doesn't look like it - http://www.bwars.com/sites/www.bwars.com/f....jpg?1334750311


No, the anthophores are thick, but this one is slender. And it's not blue, but metallic greenish. umnik.gif
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06.11.2015 8:18, Северянка

Many thanks to the participants of the discussion!
AVA, Alexander, at your suggestion increased the contrast:
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06.11.2015 9:06, алекс 2611

No, not again. In this case, the basal vein is almost straight, and not strongly curved, as it should be in celadonia!
You give it to Andren! jump.gif


It's hard to argue here. The basal vein is clearly visible.
Not Halictus (Seladonia)

06.11.2015 9:09, алекс 2611

Submarginal-three, clearly visible.


I believe. I'm really stupid with pictures. Need a copy in hand

06.11.2015 9:15, алекс 2611

  
But I've seen the "metal" Andren, there are also such! umnik.gif

"Metal" Andren and I saw. And in the collection there is. But they are quite different. If it were not clear even for me a straight basal line, I would immediately say Seladonia.
Except for Andrena I can't think of anything

06.11.2015 14:44, Кархарот

Where is the blue one? If we are talking about this photo:
(and, having tracked the rather confusing course of the discussion, I go to it), then the only blue is interference on the wing, then this. But the bee that follows the link is really completely different. Although, as it turned out today, unlike wasps and ants, I have no sense of smell at all...

P.S. It is possible that there may be misunderstandings by individual participants (perhaps? even by me) discussion structures, i.e. confusion between photos and comments...

It's about http://molbiol.ru/forums/uploads/post-16651-1446718247.jpg
And the one you're thinking of isn't blue, but green.

This post was edited by Carcharot - 06.11.2015 14: 49

06.11.2015 14:47, Кархарот

"Metal" Andren and I saw. And in the collection there is. But they are quite different. If it were not clear even for me a straight basal line, I would immediately say Seladonia.
I can't think of anything other than Andrena

And I see a crooked vein. I don't even know shuffle.gif
The head is not "winded"at all.

This post was edited by Carcharot - 06.11.2015 14: 49

06.11.2015 16:15, ИНО

06.11.2015 19:02, Кархарот

So, you confused the photo and the comments after all, and not me. And then I already started to worry: I checked the thread of comments and quotes three times. IMHO, they are both gray (well, the first one still has an " ass " in red hairs, which I first took for a megahil brush), the rest are artifacts.

Maybe so, I won't check it out anymore. In general, I believe that the gray that looks blue (with a red "ass") is Anthophora furcata, and the gray that looks green (where the basal vein is "blurred" in the place where it should make a turn) is Seladonia sp. But there is no complete certainty, and the head has become somewhat difficult to think from the monotonous work on editing the CC RK.

06.11.2015 20:20, Vlad Proklov

Can I at least get to Rod?

Orenburg Region, July:

user posted image

06.11.2015 21:19, алекс 2611

And I see a crooked vein. I don't even know shuffle.gif
The head is not "winded"at all.

user posted image

Absolutely not a vein of the genus Halictus

But otherwise, yes. Galikt
Well we were puzzled by the Siberian devishka

06.11.2015 21:23, Кархарот

Can I at least get to Rod?

Orenburg Region, July:


To the genus easily - male Megachile.

06.11.2015 21:28, алекс 2611

Can I at least get to Rod?

Orenburg Region, July:

user posted image


male Megachile
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06.11.2015 21:34, Кархарот

Absolutely not a vein of the genus Halictus

But otherwise, yes. Galikt
Well we were puzzled by the Siberian girl

Anything can happen - http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/Af...zpsxmcqn2eb.jpg
When I sorted all the bees by genus for the university collection, there were thousands of halicts, and I saw enough of those that even within one individual had a different curvature of this vein on the left and right wings! Plus, I found one typical Evylaeus, but with an abdominal brush like a megachilid. - http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=469581 confused.gif
And here, "at least crack", but I see it like this (and you will mentally extend this vein from the part where it is almost straight, and see where it would flow if it were straight-clearly not where in the photo):

This post was edited by Carcharot - 06.11.2015 21: 38

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06.11.2015 21:50, алекс 2611

Anything can happen - http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/Af...zpsxmcqn2eb.jpg
When I sorted all the bees by genus for the university collection, there were thousands of halicts, and I saw enough of those that even within one individual had a different curvature of this vein on the left and right wings! Plus, I found one typical Evylaeus, but with an abdominal brush like a megachilid. - http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=469581  confused.gif
And here, "at least crack", but I see it like this (and you will mentally extend this vein from the part where it is almost straight, and see where it would flow if it were straight-clearly not where in the photo):


Still, not completely convinced. In the first photo, the wing is just at a large angle to the viewer, the bend is poorly visible. IMHO.
The Irkutsk photo has a different angle.
Although....Maybe you're right. I really don't want to call the bee andrena
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07.11.2015 0:47, Sklyar

Good afternoon! Anything to say about these webbed feet?" I understand that there is a wasp and a bee smile.gifin the Kursk region.

Pictures:
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07.11.2015 1:25, AVA

Good afternoon! Anything to say about these webbed feet?" I understand that there is a wasp and a bee smile.gifin the Kursk region.


Upper-wasp (Tiphia sp.)
The bottom one is a bee, but what is it? There are not enough signs.
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07.11.2015 10:18, алекс 2611

Good afternoon! Anything to say about these webbed feet?" I understand that there is a wasp and a bee smile.gifin the Kursk region.

Regarding the bee, can it be a female Panurgus?
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07.11.2015 15:11, John-ST

Another batch of creepy rider photos from last year.
All MO, Railway, except the 7th to light
1. 07.06.2014
? Braconida
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The next three small braconids, as I understand it, are the same thing, the same was in the last post with riders. In 2014 and 2015, they flew in large numbers in August to the light.

2. 31.07.2014
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3. 04.08.2014
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4. 12.08.2014
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5. 31.07.2014
? Braconida
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6. 31.07.2014
? Braconida
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7. 01.08.2014
This subtile type was hanging out on tansy
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8. 04.08.2014
this very small
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9. 04.08.2014
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10. 04.08.2014
the one with the emerald eyes
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11. 04.08.2014
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12. 08.08.2014
Something very small chalcidoid, I would like to know the family, if possible
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13. 06.09.2014
Large, at least 2.5 cm in length, Ichneumon (if I understand correctly)
Black without red coloring. Somewhere I must have it "live" until I found
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This post was edited by John-ST-07.11.2015 15: 28

07.11.2015 21:41, IchMan

Another batch of creepy rider photos from last year.
All MO, Railway, except the 7th to light

Photos, of course, to put it mildly, leave much to be desired ...
1-6, 8-10-Braconidae, to guess, you need to somehow navigate in the group
7-Ichneumonidae, even the subfamily is not really recognized frown.gif
11-Diapriidae
12-sort of like Pteromalidae
13-if there are no red tergites, most likely Coelichneumon deliratorius L. (Ichneumonidae, Ichneumoninae)
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07.11.2015 21:57, IchMan

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. November 4.


Ichneumonidae, Ichneumonidae, Phaeogenini, further tribes on the photo here in any way.
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08.11.2015 19:08, akulich-sibiria

And I see a crooked vein. I don't even know shuffle.gif
The head is not "winded"at all.


I agree, I'm also for Seladonia smile.gif
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08.11.2015 19:13, akulich-sibiria

I think it's crooked. In addition, the wing is still at an angle.
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09.11.2015 1:22, Пензуит

Can you tell me why wasps from the genera Vespula and Dolichovespula were very rare this year? That is, the most common in all years, except this one. Maybe because May and June were cold and their larvae died of starvation?


There was a lot said about Polistes dominula and nimpha above, so I kind of caught the difference.
As I understand it, the following photos show two female founders of Polistes nimpha, taken in May. Did I guess correctly?

1.

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2.

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And also-please tell me about this rider.

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This post was edited by Penzuit-09.11.2015 01: 28

09.11.2015 9:03, AVA

Can you tell me why wasps from the genera Vespula and Dolichovespula were very rare this year? That is, the most common in all years, except this one. Maybe because May and June were cold and their larvae died of starvation?
There was a lot said about Polistes dominula and nimpha above, so I kind of caught the difference.
As I understand it, the following photos show two female founders of Polistes nimpha, taken in May. Did I guess correctly?


I "guessed" everything correctly with the sheets. wink.gif

09.11.2015 11:11, gumenuk

Help me determine:
1-DSC07272 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.19
2_DSC05393 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.06.22
3-DSC07691-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.28
4-DSC07783 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.29

Pictures:
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2_DSC05393.jpg — (300.52к)

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picture: 4_DSC07783.jpg
4_DSC07783.jpg — (282.09к)

09.11.2015 12:04, AVA

Help me determine:
1-DSC07272 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.19
2_DSC05393 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.06.22
3-DSC07691-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.28
4-DSC07783 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station. 2015.07.29


1. Cerceris rybyensis (m)
2. Polistes nimpha (fm)
3. Dolichovespula media (fm)
4. Dolichovespula saxonica (fm)
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09.11.2015 13:58, gumenuk

Help me identify the bees:
1-DSC05696. - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan. 2015.06.27
2_DSC02926. - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan. 2015.09.13

Pictures:
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09.11.2015 14:29, Radik

Please help me with the definition.
Tatarstan, Nizhnekamsk district, 2015

09.11.2015 18:42, AVA

Help me identify the bees:
1-DSC05696. - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan. 2015.06.27
2_DSC02926. - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan. 2015.09.13


1 - Hylaeus sp. (fm)
2 - Halictus sp. (fm)
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09.11.2015 22:42, TimK

Please help me with the definition.
Tatarstan, Nizhnekamsk district, 2015

4. (_12) Male Lasius fuliginosus

This post was edited by TimK-09.11.2015 22: 45

09.11.2015 22:56, алекс 2611

 
2 - Halictus sp. (fm)


Still Lasioglossum
Something like Lasioglossum zonulum

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