Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

On the previous page, I put up a photo of bumblebees. Can someone help with the definition?

Help me identify the sawfly:
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan, 2015.05.28, on molochay.

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Hmm, maybe I have something wrong with my vision, but I didn't see any yellow cheeks, except for dominul's. Although, there is only one suitable angle, and then the stamen closes a little. But those two are very strange for nymphs, in my opinion, especially the 5th, I did not come across with such a color.

AVA, why did you exclude biglumis and bischoffi? Or is it also a secret?

gumenuk, with bumblebees in your region, everything is difficult, there would be no mistake about the specimen, especially if it is a worker or a male. We have a little simpler - fewer species and very few doppelgangers.

This post was edited INO-03.11.2015 13: 52

  
... AVA, for what reason you excluded biglumis and bischoffi. Or is it also a secret?...

Well, what a secret.
In P. biglumis and P. bischoffi, the top of the antennae is not just darkened, but almost black throughout. There are also yellow spots at the base of the mandibles. It is quite difficult to confuse these species with P. nimpha. But the females of these species are very similar to each other (males differ easily).

Thank you for your clarification. But it is strange that there are photos of bischoffi with relatively light flagella (the nymph also has darker ones):



And the mandibles in the photos of Penzuit are poorly visible. I was confused by the black cheeks (at least here-the yellowness is not visible, but, in theory, it should be):



and almost complete reduction of the yellow pattern on the anterior and mid-spine (only the transverse stripe in front remains). Or is it normal for a nymph? Like I said before? I have never encountered Bischoffi and biglumis (even in the form of a collector's copy), but for some reason I did not recognize the well-known nymph. Maybe it's a matter of geographical variability.

Thank you for your clarification. But it is strange that there are photos of bischoffi with relatively light flagella (the nymph also has darker ones):

And the mandibles in the photos of Penzuit are poorly visible. I was confused by the black cheeks (at least here-the yellowness is not visible, but, in theory, it should be):

and almost complete reduction of the yellow pattern on the anterior and mid-spine (only the transverse stripe in front remains). Or is it normal for a nymph?
Maybe it's a matter of geographical variability.

Such antennas are rather an exception for biglumis/bischoffi. As a rule, they are much darker. This photo is generally "not typically" bright copy. These are found mainly in the southern Mediterranean, although there are also such biglumis on the territory of Ukraine.

The bases of the mandibles behind the stamen are still visible, and they are spotless.
As for the cheeks, in slightly colored nimpha (and such are not uncommon at all), they can also be completely black, like the back.
That's why I asked you not to dwell on the color - in polistov it varies very much not only within the range, but even within the same family, especially in working individuals. But the founders, as a rule, have a fairly stable "typical" color, which may be due to a special diet.

although there are such biglumis on the territory of Ukraine.

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That's why I asked you not to dwell on the color - in polistov it varies very much not only within the range, but even within the same family, especially in working individuals.

Do you have biglumis in Ukraine? And where does he live?

As for the signs - according to the disser Rusina, the black tip of the last sternite is a stable sign in a nymph and, in theory, is quite suitable for distinguishing from dominul. But the color of the antennae seems to be-no..

Help me determine:
1 DSC06899 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Khripan railway station, 11.07.2015.

Macropis sp.

Do you have biglumis in Ukraine? And where does he live?

As for the signs - according to the disser Rusina, the black tip of the last sternite is a stable sign in a nymph and, in theory, is quite suitable for distinguishing from dominul. But the color of the antennae seems to be-no..

Why shouldn't he be there? I personally know the finds in the west and in the Poltava region. But, unfortunately, only for females. And I can't always tell them apart from bischoffi females without comparing them.
In Russia, they seem to reach the Kemerovo region and the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory. But I didn't see any males from there, and I can't say exactly what kind of species they were.

Lydia Rusina operates mainly with southern representatives of both species, and I-with variability throughout the range. I'm not particularly interested in local populations. So, it is the color of the antennae - this is the only sign associated with color, which clearly allows you to distinguish both species by females. However, if they are alive or fresh. In" old " collectible dominula females, the antennae may darken with fat. Then there may be difficulties.
As for the color of the last sternite, in dominula it can be from completely black to almost completely yellow. Variations, however...
Similarly, in nimpha, the top of the last sternite may also be more or less yellow. This is where problems arise with another view - associ.

This is where problems arise with another species - associ.

I haven't heard that P. associ is present in Russia. It seems to be a southern view (Southern Europe, Azerbaijan, Turkey, China).

AVA, if you don't focus on coloring, then how can you tell from the photo? By instance, of course, this is a different matter. Roma, about Rusina's situation. it seems that they have already sorted out the bones. Or have you forgotten? Then I remind you: she has no publications specifically on diagnostic signs. No need to pull the owl on the globe, taking phrases or drawings out of context! Completely black (well, let's say, slightly brownish at the very end) sternites in dominula are in the order of things, although they come across infrequently. I haven't seen any nymphs with yellow ones, but if AVA says so, then there are some. Now for the antennas. Dominulas do always have them bright orange (at least I haven't seen any others) but the nymphs are very variable. Here, for example, is a photo of one nest (one female and her daughters):



By antenna color from "almost dominant" to "almost bischoffy". By the way, "almost dominant" is just the female founder. And these aren't the brightest antennas I've ever seen. It happens that the lightest darkening can be noticed only if you pritulit next to the tendril of the dominant and thoroughly straining your eyes. And with this tendency, I cannot rule out the case when the limit of discrimination for the human eye will be reached. Therefore, I can't agree about the stability and typical coloration of female founders of polistov. They are very different.

This post was edited by ENO-04.11.2015 01: 06

Completely black (well, let's say, slightly brownish at the very end) sternites in dominula are in the order of things, although they come across infrequently. I haven't seen any nymphs with yellow ones, but if AVA says so, then there are some.

So in the order of things or come across not often? How many times have you come across them?... " Completely black (well, let's say a little brownish at the very end)"
----"the coin is completely gold! Only a little copper - only 99.9%, the rest is pure gold, mamai swear!!!" ))))

Well, about nymphs with yellow tips, too, maybe there are, if they say so, but on the other hand, there are people with tails-a fact, so it's all about the frequency of occurrence..

So you sit there, read, and look, and the longer it goes on, the more paranoid you get and you start to doubt the definitions.
Help dispel doubts.
All wasps MO, Zheleznodorozhny, to the light

1. 22.05.2015
Dolichvespula saxonica?
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2. 25.05.2015
Vespula vulgaris?
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3. 13.08.2015
Vespula vulgaris?
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4. 13.08.2015
Vespula vulgaris?
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Help me deal with the riders.
All MO, Zheleznodorozhny, to the light.

1. 25.05.2015

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2. 04.07.2015
Large about 1 cm without ovipositor
Torymus?
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3. 19.08.2015
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4. 21.08.2015
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5. 21.08.2015
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6. 21.08.2015
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7. 21.08.2015
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8. 21.08.2015
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9. 21.08.2015
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10. 21.08.2015
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11. 22.08.2015
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12. 22.08.2015
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13. 27.08.2015
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So in the order of things or come across not often? How many times have you come across them?... " Completely black (well, let's say a little brownish at the very end)"
----"the coin is completely gold! Only a little copper - only 99.9%, the rest is pure gold, mamai swear!!!" ))))

Well, about nymphs with yellow tips, too, maybe there are, if they say so, but on the other hand, there are people with tails-a fact, so it's all about the frequency of occurrence..

It's just that some authors notice this browniness and note it separately, while others do not. On the schematic drawings of Rusina that you love so much, there are only two colors at all: black and white, which of them is replaced by brown is a mystery to me. Rather, it is black, since this brownness is noticeable only in very bright light, for example, in macro photos with flash. Upon a cursory examination under normal conditions (on a live specimen), such sternite is seen completely black. And yes, I haven't met him often - no more than ten times. But in different years in different families, so a variant of the norm. It is possible that in another population the proportion of such individuals will be higher (or less). But the main moral is that this attribute does NOT WORK as an independent one (no matter how well-known authors reprinted it in the keys of their predecessors), for the correct definition, look at the complex of signs, or better-look for signs that are not related to color (but this is no longer in the photo).

Help me determine:
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan, 2015.07.29, on light

Pictures:

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It's just that some authors notice this browniness and note it separately, while others do not. On the schematic drawings of Rusina that you love so much, there are only two colors at all: black and white, which of them is replaced by brown is a mystery to me. Rather, it is black, since this brownness is noticeable only in very bright light, for example, in macro photos with flash. Upon a cursory examination under normal conditions (on a live specimen), such sternite is seen completely black. And yes, I haven't met him often - no more than ten times. But in different years in different families, so a variant of the norm. It is possible that in another population the proportion of such individuals will be higher (or less). But the main moral is that this attribute does NOT WORK as an independent one (no matter how well-known authors reprinted it in the keys of their predecessors), for the correct definition, look at the complex of signs, or better-look for signs that are not related to color (but this is no longer in the photo).

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Exactly so, only for a complex of features and, preferably, not related to color.

PS By the way, Lydia Rusina is a good ethologist, but, sorry, not a taxonomist. Which, in fact, it does not claim.
But even" real " taxonomists like Dvorak or Gusenleitner sometimes face problems of definition when they rely on color.

So you sit there, read, and look, and the longer it goes on, the more paranoid you get and you start to doubt the definitions.
Help dispel doubts.
All wasps MO, Zheleznodorozhny, to the light

Down with paranoia!

2-4 identified correctly. V. vulgaris.

1-there are doubts - the chest and legs are very dark, and the trim is not visible. Look carefully for any oblique folds in the lower corners of the pronotum. And how the platband is painted - just a dark spot or strip, or a strip with an extension at the bottom, often in the form of an "independent trident". In the first case, it may be D. media, and in the second - D. saxonica.

Down with paranoia!
1-there are doubts - the chest and legs are very dark, and the trim is not visible. Look carefully for any oblique folds in the lower corners of the pronotum. And how the platband is painted - just a dark spot or strip, or a strip with an extension at the bottom, often in the form of an "independent trident". In the first case, it may be D. media, and in the second - D. saxonica.

I was guided by the fact that media has a yellow eye notch, but here only the lower edge is yellow, or is it different?
I dug around in the fees and found a "pet", it turns out saxonica:
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I was guided by the fact that media has a yellow eye notch, but here only the lower edge is yellow, or is it different?
I dug around in the fees and found a "pet", it turns out saxonica:

It's not uncommon for working-class media to do this.
According to the trim exactly saxonica.

Help me determine:
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, near the railway platform Khripan, 2015.07.29, on light

Opheltes glaucopterus L. (Ichneumonidae, Ctenopelmatinae)

Help me deal with the riders.
All MO, Zheleznodorozhny, to the light.

Unfortunately, the camera angles and photo quality are not enough to see everything you need
1,3,4,10,11,12 - Braconidae
5 - Ichneumonidae, Cryptinae
6 - Absyrtus sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ctenopelmatinae)
7 - Enicospilus sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ophioninae)
8 - ?Mesoleius sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ctenopelmatinae)
9 - Ichneumonidae, ? Cryptinae
13 - ? Ichneumonidae - no wing venation visible

This post was edited by IchMan - 04.11.2015 18: 16

Unfortunately, the camera angles and photo quality are not enough to see everything you need
1,3,4,10,11,12 - Braconidae
5 - Ichneumonidae, Cryptinae
6 - Absyrtus sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ctenopelmatinae)
7 - Enicospilus sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ophioninae)
8 - ?Mesoleius sp. (Ichneumonidae, Ctenopelmatinae)
9 - Ichneumonidae, ? Cryptinae
13 - ? Ichneumonidae - no wing venation visible

Thank you, for the initial analysis, it will go like this.
Most of these riders are small or very small, and my soap box unfortunately does not pull them, although they are very interesting companions. I don't have the patience to mount such a small thing, so I very rarely take it, mostly I take pictures. If you still take them, how best to mount them? When you try to prick, in most cases, small and small riders become unusable . If you glue on the corners, how to do it correctly?
13 - ? Ichneumonidae, I don't know if this angle will help?
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This post was edited by John-ST-05.11.2015 12: 47

Maybe you can determine?
1-DSC09014-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.08.18
2-DSC07576-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.07.24

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Maybe you can determine?
1-DSC09014 - Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the railway platform Khripan, 2015.08.18

In such a system, it is defined as Bombus agrorum. Now, as I understand it, this species is called Bombus pascuorum (Scopoli, 1763).
But my attitude to bumblebees is so-so and I may well be wrong. A bumblebee would be welcome here.

Py Sy I looked it up now on the net http://www.bwars.com/index.php?q=bee/apidae/bombus-pascuorum.
Does it look like yours?"

This post was edited by alex 2611-05.11.2015 11: 53

Help me identify the bees:
1-DSC07802-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 29.07.2015.2
-DSC08761-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 12.08.2015.

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2_DSC08761.jpg — (447.55к)

Help me identify the bees:
1-DSC07802-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 29.07.2015.2
-DSC08761-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 12.08.2015.

1. Megachile sp. maybe someone will say before the view
2. Apis mellifera

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. November 4.

2 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC07632-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 29.07.2015.2
-DSC07157-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 18.07.2015.

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2 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC07632-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 29.07.2015.2
-DSC07157-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 18.07.2015.

Deja vu:
1. Megachile sp.
2. Apis mellifera

2 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC07632-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 29.07.2015.2
-DSC07157-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 18.07.2015.

1. Something like Anthophora furcata? For some reason, I have absolutely no material on this kind and it is very difficult to speak
2. All the same Apis mellifera nebos

Deja vu:
1. Megachile sp.

Not Megachile exactly.
At Megahill 2 (two!) radiomedial cells, and here you can clearly see 3.
Anthophora all-tak

3 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC06905-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 11.07.2015.2
-DSC03915-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.09.24.

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Yes, I confess, I didn't look at the venation, it seemed that the brush was sticking out from under the belly. It's just such red hairs on the tip of the abdomen - I've never seen such a look. But echoing melifera 100% - there I just looked at the venation carefully.

Good day everyone!
Please identify the bee:

On a country road, der. Pozdnyakova, Irkutsk district, Irkutsk region 27.08.2015.

3 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC06905-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 11.07.2015.2
-DSC03915-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.09.24.

Well, the first Macropis sp. It seems as it should be on the flowers of Lysimachia vulgaris?

Good day everyone!
Please identify the bee:
On a country road, der. Pozdnyakova street, Irkutsk district, Irkutsk region 27.08.2015.

Maybe some Osmia?
It's too bad that the wing venation isn't really visible

Well, the first Macropis sp. It seems as it should be on the flowers of Lysimachia vulgaris?

Yes, on verbeynik.
Thank you for your help in identifying it.

4 Help identify the bees:
1-DSC05325-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.06.21.2
-DSC05710-Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, vicinity of the Hripan railway platform, 2015.06.28.

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Maybe some Osmia?
It's too bad that the wing venation isn't really visible

Ne, a sharp marginal cell with a tip on the edge of the wing, 3 submarginal cells, and even strongly pubescent lower legs of the hind legs. This is definitely not megahilina.
Which sounds a lot like Andren to me...