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18.11.2008 20:05, Vlad Proklov

Help with the definition.In the area of p.Monastery, Adler.November 2008.
One hind leg was missing.

Acrida sp. While it is not particularly clear what of this kind is in the south of Russia - we need an audit.
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19.11.2008 12:18, Victor Titov

Please help me identify the grasshoppers. All taken in June 2008 in Gelendzhik.

I apologize for the reminder shuffle.gif: what about the Gelendzhik grasshoppers in any way?

19.11.2008 12:49, Vlad Proklov

I apologize for the reminder shuffle.gif: what about the Gelendzhik grasshoppers in any way?

Caucasian Barbitistini? I pass.
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19.11.2008 12:52, Victor Titov

Caucasian Barbitistini? I'll pass.

It's a pity, of course!

19.11.2008 20:40, PVOzerski

I wouldn't do it now either. I'm sorry, too...
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20.11.2008 20:55, guest: a

With the Gelendzhik ones? Well, you can try. but without a 100% guarantee.
Anyways: photo 1 - nymph of the post-adult male Poecilimon scythicus (or a similar species: similis, geokchaicus, etc...) (see on the characteristic clumsy cerci)
And on 2 and 3 most likely the Colchian isophy of I. schneideri. (so what does it spell?). Well, around strewn again with the image, birthmarks (see 1)
Vashcheto, in a good way, it is necessary to get into the opredilitel Bey-Bienko, 1954, but it breaks me very much. Please forgive me...
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21.11.2008 12:31, Victor Titov

With the Gelendzhik ones? Well, you can try. but without a 100% guarantee.
Anyways: photo 1 - nymph of the post-adult male Poecilimon scythicus (or a similar species: similis, geokchaicus, etc...) (see on the characteristic clumsy cerci)
And on 2 and 3 most likely the Colchian isophy of I. schneideri. (so what does it spell?). Well, around strewn again with the image, birthmarks (see 1)
Vashcheto, in a good way, it is necessary to get into the opredilitel Bey-Bienko, 1954, but it breaks me very much. Please forgive me...

What is there to forgive?! Thank you so much! I'd like to know who I owe it to.

21.11.2008 18:46, NakaRB

Well, since no one is watching the larvaewink.gif, then look at the adult fillies, tetrixes and grasshoppers of the Moscow region, with some exceptions...

01-neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region.
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02-neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region.
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03-muddy, of course, tetrix, and even most likely a larva - but suddenly...
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06-neighborhood of d. Kraushkino, Yaroslavl region.
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07-neighborhood of d. Lunevo, Vladimir region.
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08 - Conocephalus fuscucs?
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option with longer wings - the view is the same?
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21.11.2008 19:00, Vlad Proklov

Well, since no one is watching the larvaewink.gif, then look at the adult fillies, tetrixes and grasshoppers of the Moscow region, with some exceptions...

1 - Myrmeleotettix maculatus
2 - Chorthippus ?montanus
3, 4 - Tetrix ?bipunctatus, 3 - нимфа
5, 7, 10 - Glyptobothrus brunneus/biguttulus
6 - Chorthippus ?albomarginatus
8 - Conocephalus discolor (= fuscus) Yes, there is a form with particularly long wings.
9 - Omocestus viridulus
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21.11.2008 19:59, guest: a

Slyushay daragoy, why not tell the truth?
01 - Chorthippus pullus
07 - Omocestus haemorrhoidalis
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21.11.2008 21:22, Vlad Proklov

Slyushay daragoy, why not tell the truth?
01 - Chorthippus pullus
07 - Omocestus haemorrhoidalis

Wow! Exactly, pullus!

22.11.2008 15:54, NakaRB

Well, probably the last ones... and also Moscow and the region

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12.1 is it the same?
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13 Bicolorana roeselii ?
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13.1 and this is it?
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14-neighborhood of d. Moseevtsy, Tver region.
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well, look at the larvae, eh? wink.gif

22.11.2008 16:01, Vlad Proklov

Well, probably the last ones... and also Moscow and the region

11 - Glyptobothrus apricarius
12, 14 - Glyptobothrus brunneus/biguttulus
13 - Bicolorana roeselii

You can only guess from the nymphs.
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22.11.2008 20:25, NakaRB


You can only guess from the nymphs.

well, at least Rod...

23.11.2008 4:47, Vlad Proklov

Here are some loose larvae, Moscow and the region, except 06 and 07

1, 3, 4 - Tettigonia ?cantans (simply because it is the most common species of the genus).
2 - Bicolorana roeselii
5 - Euthystira brachyptera
6 - Chorthippus sp.
7 - Glyptobothrus sp.
8 - Tetrix ?bipunctata nymph.
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19.12.2008 20:21, bials

What is this grasshopper? I saw this for the first time. M. O. Odintsovo district.
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19.12.2008 22:22, Vlad Proklov

What is this grasshopper? I saw this for the first time. M. O. Odintsovo district.

Conocephalus discolor (=fuscus), a red book species in the region.
And where is it taken more precisely?
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20.12.2008 15:19, guest: a

I think this is the first time anyone here has seen such a person and not just in M. O. This is not discolor a dorsalis, a rare full-winged form. It looks like kotbegemot also saw it for the first time and did not recognize it. C. discolor, by the way, is no longer red book. The point is really very interesting.

20.12.2008 15:31, Vlad Proklov

I think this is the first time anyone here has seen such a person and not just in M. O. This is not discolor a dorsalis, a rare full-winged form. It looks like kotbegemot also saw it for the first time and did not recognize it. C. discolor, by the way, is no longer red book. The point is really very interesting.

No, this is a very long-winged form of C. discolor-look at the ovipositor!

21.12.2008 12:55, guest: a

Yeah, I'll take a look, I'll take a look... But you, too, colleague, look at the ovipositor too.

21.12.2008 22:27, Alex KNZ

The ovipositor is really similar to discolor, but I'm not an expert. smile.gif
I have such a question. (questions)
Tell me, please, what does a long-winged form mean? Is this a separate subspecies? Why does it occur? Is this related to climatic (geographical, soil) factors? Somewhere. can this be found in the literature? And how does it sound in English. language "long-winged form"?. I already broke my head with the definitions of different grasshoppers, for example Gray ones. In MO, they have short wings. In the center and southern regions (in the Kuban and the Caucasus), they look the same size as white-fronted ones. Only the colors differ in appearance (depending on the photo), and sometimes they are difficult to distinguish at all. Or are they different subspecies of Decticus verrucivorus? Then in tettigonia viridissima, the wings are also too long (this is often found), but also short to such an extent that the ovipositor of females strongly sticks out from under the elytra (judging by photos from Southern England).

22.12.2008 1:51, Alex KNZ

I found a lot of photos of decticuses and I can't identify these few because of their color: albifrons or verrucivorus? All the white-browed ones I've seen have a special pronotum color, different from the gray ones. Imagine the lateral part of the pronotum. Around it, it is very, very light, almost white, but then abruptly turns into dark brown or black pronounced stripes from the edges and again begins to lighten slightly towards the center(The lowest photo). In the other three photos, the cat. I'll post it below it's not like that! In general, I will be glad if you can help an amateur smile.gifThank you in advance!

Photo 2-I assume that D.Verrucivorus (Photo taken in the Chechen Republic)
Photo 3-Absolutely do not know, because the author took the photo in Ukraine, but I think that D.Verrucivorus due to the color of the wings and pronotum.
Photo 4 - No idea, because taken from a non-Russian site, and the photo was called d. albifrons.
Photo 1 (Bottom most) - True Decticus Albifrons.

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23.12.2008 22:04, bials

  Conocephalus discolor (=fuscus), a red book species in the region.
And where is it taken more precisely?

Petelino station, Gar-Pokrovskoe settlement, Odintsovo district, Moscow region.
September 5, 2008
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23.12.2008 22:22, Vlad Proklov

The ovipositor is really similar to discolor, but I'm not an expert. smile.gif 
I have such a question. (questions)
Tell me, please, what does a long-winged form mean? Is this a separate subspecies? Why does it occur? Is this related to climatic (geographical, soil) factors? Somewhere. can this be found in the literature? And how does it sound in English. language "long-winged form"?. I already broke my head with the definitions of different grasshoppers, for example Gray ones. In MO, they have short wings. In the center and southern regions (in the Kuban and the Caucasus), they look the same size as white-fronted ones. Only the colors differ in appearance (depending on the photo), and sometimes they are difficult to distinguish at all. Or are they different subspecies of Decticus verrucivorus? Then in tettigonia viridissima, the wings are also too long (this is often found), but also short to such an extent that the ovipositor of females strongly sticks out from under the elytra (judging by photos from Southern England).

This means exactly what it means: different phenotypes are present in different parts of the population. These are not subspecies. More often, long-winged individuals begin to meet at a high population density, ensuring the dispersal of the species - however, I will be careful to determine the cause and effect here.
In D. verrucivorus, however, different subspecies have different wing lengths (in Zap. In Europe, for example, they are very short), but this is a special case.

I found a lot of photos of decticuses and I can't identify these few because of their color: albifrons or verrucivorus?
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In my opinion, all of them are Decticus albifrons. Color in straight-winged birds is generally a secondary thing.
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07.01.2009 1:58, barko

Please help me determine. Hungary, August.

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07.01.2009 3:33, Vlad Proklov

Please help me determine. Hungary, August.

Mantis religiosa
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11.01.2009 11:26, gumenuk

Batch 1.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 242, 267 and 272 taken near Novorossiysk

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11.01.2009 16:56, barko

Please help me determine. Hungary, October.

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11.01.2009 16:59, Tigran Oganesov

Please help me determine. Hungary, October.

Mantis religiosa again, female this time.
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11.01.2009 18:59, Vlad Proklov

Batch 1.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 242, 267 and 272 taken near Novorossiysk

1 - Euthystira brachyptera
2 - Poecilimon sp. You can hardly tell more accurately from the photo.
3 - Calliptamus italicus
4 - Tetrix ?bipunctatus
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11.01.2009 22:26, gumenuk

Batch 2.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 827 - Black Sea coast, the rest - Moscow region

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12.01.2009 1:44, Vlad Proklov

Batch 2.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 827 - Black Sea coast, the rest - Moscow region

1 - Oedipoda coerulescens
2 - Stethophyma grossum
3 - Bicolorana roeselii
4, 5 - Chrysochraon dispar
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12.01.2009 9:44, gumenuk

Party 3.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct.

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12.01.2009 9:48, Vlad Proklov

Party 3.
I deal with the archives of pryamoptera. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct.

1 - Omocestus viridulus
2 - nymph Gomphocerinae
3 - nymph Tettigonia ?cantans
4-nymph Decticus verrucivorus
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12.01.2009 11:00, gumenuk

Party 4 (nymphs).
I deal with the archives of the erect-winged ones. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct.

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12.01.2009 11:06, Vlad Proklov

Party 4 (nymphs).
I deal with the archives of the erect-winged ones. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct.

1 - Pholidoptera griseoaptera
2 - Chorthippus sp.
The rest are very small Gomphocerinae.
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12.01.2009 11:19, Насекомовед

3, 4 - Tetrix ?bipunctatus, 3-nymph


Tetrix tenuicornis-adult exactly, larva, most likely (low pronotum keel, long antennae)

4 - Tetrix ?bipunctatus


Something from T. subulata-T. bolivari-you need to look at the frontal rib in profile (it is not quite clearly visible). Most likely T. subulata
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12.01.2009 11:30, gumenuk

Batch 5.
I deal with the archives of the erect-winged ones. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 629 - Black Sea coast

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12.01.2009 11:37, gumenuk

  Tetrix tenuicornis-adult exactly, larva, most likely (low pronotum keel, long antennae)

But Tetrix tenuicornis is a forest-steppe species, and I shot it in the Moscow Region

12.01.2009 11:38, Vlad Proklov

Batch 5.
I deal with the archives of the erect-winged ones. I could identify most of them. There are still some that I couldn't identify or that I doubt are correct. 629 - Black Sea coast

1 - Tylopsis lilifolia
2 - ?Omocestus sp.
3 - Omocestus viridulus
4 - Chorthippus ?parallelus

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