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23.12.2007 19:25, Victor Titov

I apologize for the disgusting quality of the photo, but maybe you can still speak about the specific (or at least generic) belonging of this cow? (Yaroslavl, 17.10.2007).
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23.12.2007 20:26, Bad Den

And then I'll ask smile.gif
I have 2 dorcadion from the Crimea, according to the "green" I once long ago identified them as D. tauricum and D. caucasicum. But, of course, I doubt it.
So the first one, D. ?tauricum (13. V. 1988, Simferopol):
user posted image

And the second, D. ?caucasicum (07. V. 1988, Zaprudnoye):
user posted image

23.12.2007 21:17, Bad Den

Or maybe you're right and this is the most common one:
http://gallery.insect.cz/details.php?image...2026722c&l=thai

In addition, Lamprohiza splendidula is probably not found in the Crimea.

No, according to "green" it turns out that several species from different genera are possible, and there is more than one species in the Lampyrus river...

23.12.2007 22:17, KDG

I have a problem here with another Dorcadion:
I brought the insects from Azerbaijan, p. Alta-Agach, 25-30. 04. 91.
They were identified as Dorcadion kagysmannicum Suv.
And now, in the list of M. L. Danilevsky on the mustache of the former USSR, it is not.
Can someone tell me? mol.gif

let's call him czegodaevi Danil.,1992. Although it may be maljushenkoi.

23.12.2007 22:21, KDG

By the way, I have a different kind of question. Will there be any Dorkashi trains in Tuva at the very end of May?

Eodorcadion all sorts of people will still run.

23.12.2007 22:46, KDG

And then I'll ask smile.gif
I have 2 dorcadion from the Crimea, according to the "green" I once long ago identified them as D. tauricum and D. caucasicum. But, of course, I doubt it.
So the first one, D. ?tauricum (13. V. 1988, Simferopol):
user posted image

And the second, D. ?caucasicum (07. V. 1988, Zaprudnoye) :
user posted image

as for the 1st one, it's holosericeum.
and the second one is cinerarium.
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23.12.2007 23:06, Victor Titov

Please take a look at my dorkashik, too. Kyrgyzstan, Issyk-Kul basin, Karakol river, 17.05.1990. Who is it?
picture: _______3_.jpg

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12/24/2007 09: 10

23.12.2007 23:14, Bad Den

Oh, thank you so much! smile.gif

24.12.2007 6:22, Mylabris

The ladybug is similar to Adalia decempunctata L.
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24.12.2007 8:41, Guest

The genus Rhagium seems to have very characteristic larvae, with a flat head capsule. Are you interested in the specific differences between Rh. inquisitor and other species, or generic differences? If necessary, I'll send you the key one of these days.



I would be very grateful...if possible, the literature would help me to suggest what to determine the larvae of barbels... There are Cherepanov, Ilyinsky...
And on the account of Rhagium...I had a hitch, confused with the larva Acmaeops sp. Mamaeva for some reason went to ragia..but I sort of figured wink.gifit out

24.12.2007 9:17, KDG

Please take a look at my dorkashik, too. Kyrgyzstan, Issyk-Kul basin, Karakol river, 17.05.1990. Who is it?
picture: _______3_.jpg

some kind of semenovi. I don't have a revision of Danilevsky for this group, and I can't say for sure what the subspecies is.
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24.12.2007 10:42, Victor Titov

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24.12.2007 11:41, Alexandr Rusinov

Hello colleagues! Tell me please, what is this pterostichus? In green, it turns out aterrimus, but not quite similar... Label data: Astrakhan region, Volga River delta, na svet, 25.06.2006
Picture: Pterostichus_1.jpg

24.12.2007 12:30, akulich-sibiria

beetles from Siberia...
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This post was edited by akulich-sibiria - 12/24/2007 12:31 pm

Pictures:
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24.12.2007 12:32, akulich-sibiria

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24.12.2007 12:37, KDG

Thanks! What would we do without you?.. They would wander in the dark.

Oh, come on... shuffle.gif

24.12.2007 12:55, Alexandr Rusinov

Akulich-sibiria: the first of the beetles-kakai-to Helophorus (formerly Hydrophlidae, now Helophoridae).
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24.12.2007 13:02, omar

And what is the size of the second one ?

24.12.2007 13:07, omar

It seems to me that the second Trachypachus is zetterstedti
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24.12.2007 13:17, Aleksey Adamov

Hello colleagues! Tell me please, what is this pterostichus? In green, it turns out aterrimus, but not quite similar... Label data: Astrakhan region, Volga River delta, na svet, 25.06.2006

In the juj catalog. In Russia and neighboring territories, this species is not found in AO. I also have such pterostichus, which are defined by Kryzhanovsky as aterrimus. It didn't end well for me... sp. wall.gif

24.12.2007 14:13, Victor Titov

In the juj catalog. In Russia and neighboring territories, this species is not found in AO. I also have such pterostichus, which are defined by Kryzhanovsky as aterrimus. It didn't end well for me ... sp. wall.gif

But this is interesting! Maybe you need to specify the area? wink.gif And it's still aterrimus?

24.12.2007 14:27, Alexandr Rusinov

No, it doesn't look like aterrimus, I compared it with certain specimens, the pits on the elytra of Astrakhan beetles are much smaller, and the gloss is not the same. I have suspicions about P. elongatus, it is from the same subgenus, but I can't find it in any determinant.

24.12.2007 14:34, Aleksey Adamov

You haven't tried using the caller ID from the ZINO site: http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/ptsamar.htm

24.12.2007 14:40, Alexandr Rusinov

There is also only aterrimus... frown.gif

25.12.2007 0:52, Fornax13

Hello colleagues! Tell me please, what is this pterostichus? In green, it turns out aterrimus, but not quite similar... Label data: Astrakhan region, Volga River delta, na svet, 25.06.2006
Picture: Pterostichus_1.jpg

For The Lower Level. In the Volga region, only P. elongatus (Duftschmid, 1812) is listed in this subgenus. I didn't see this view in my eyes, but most likely it's just him.
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25.12.2007 9:58, Mylabris

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A beetle in the family Liodidae. Perhaps the genus is Liodes.
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25.12.2007 20:33, stierlyz

Pterostichus probably elongatus, common, by the way, we have. The table for the genus in the "green" is compiled rather poorly, there are no several ordinary species or even a whole subgenus. A stocky ground beetle from Siberia is clearly something from Zabrini.
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25.12.2007 20:46, amara

Pterostichus probably elongatus, common, by the way, we have. A stocky ground beetle from Siberia-clearly something from Zabrini.


It seems to me that Omar is right with Trachypachus zetterstedti, although I have only seen this beetle in the picture and two photos, and never "live" .

25.12.2007 22:42, omar

Actually, I'm pretty sure about the definition of Trachypachus zetterstedti, I need to know the size. If the size matches, then it can't be anything else. And Zabrini doesn't even smell here. I've only seen Zhukov in collections, and I haven't caught this species alive yet either. In case of terrible doubts, you can look at the bottom - it is very characteristic of Trachypachus zetterstedti, there is no other such ground beetle in the whole world. smile.gif

This post was edited by omar - 12/25/2007 22: 46
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25.12.2007 22:51, Bad Den

beetles from Siberia...

P1010041_.jpg — can I take a picture from below?"

This post was edited by Bad Den - 12/25/2007 22: 53

25.12.2007 23:29, Bad Den

In case of terrible doubts, you can look at the bottom - it is very characteristic of Trachypachus zetterstedti, there is no other such ground beetle in the whole world. smile.gif

No, there are definitely 3 more species of this genus in the whole world wink.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den - 12/25/2007 23: 35
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26.12.2007 5:57, Mylabris

Dear colleagues!
Help us deal with these animals. Acmeops?
Caught in July 2003 in the eastern part of the Trans-Ili Alatau. Quite small - 10-12 mm.

Pictures:
picture: acmaeops.jpg
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26.12.2007 9:45, omar

No, there are definitely 3 more species of this genus in the whole world wink.gif

He meant the Old World. Well fuck this America lol.gif

26.12.2007 12:01, Victor Titov

26.12.2007 15:55, amara

To be honest, your barbels remind me of Pseudovadonia livida. Link: http://www.zin.ru/ANIMALIA/Coleoptera/rus/pselivkm.htm 
But the size is too big (livida, as a rule, is no more than 8 mm, or even less). Maybe something from the same series? confused.gif But, in my opinion, these are clearly not Akmeops.


Yes, with the generic names of barbels from the family Lepturinae, I, a novice, am still completely dizzy. No, I'm not talking about the good old books by N. N. Plavilshchikov from the last century, where this species was called Leptura (Vadonia) livida ( with dimensions of 6.5-9.0 mm).
In the list of beetles of Fennoscandia dec. 2006, it is listed as Anoplodera livida.
You, as well as on the Zinovsky site, as well as at Isaev, this is Pseudovadonia.
Where should a newbie gosmile.gif?
I am studying,
I just found out that this genus is described by our experts and recognized in Europe:
Pseudovadonia Lobanov, Danilevsky et Murzin, 1981
So it's time for me to change labels.

This post was edited by amara - 12/26/2007 16: 03

26.12.2007 16:25, Mylabris

Dmitrich, thank you very much. That's them. Just in my determinant they appear as leptures.

26.12.2007 16:33, Victor Titov

Dmitrich, thank you very much. That's them. It's just that they appear as leptures in my determinant.

In green? So it is for everyone. I also don't have a definitive guide to the modern generic names of barbels. Therefore, we have to determine by what is available, and then compare the names against the Danilevsky list.

26.12.2007 16:43, Mylabris

No, the book "Beetles-dendrophages of Kazakhstan" by I. A. Kostin is better suited for my region.
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26.12.2007 17:35, алекс 2611

No, the book "Beetles-dendrophages of Kazakhstan" by I. A. Kostin is better suited for my region.


Do you happen to have a scan of this book?

26.12.2007 17:49, Mylabris

There is no scan. But I have it in the queue for scanning.
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