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26.12.2007 18:01, Victor Titov

So it's time for me to change the labels, too.

Yes, I, in fact, also did not change everything smile.gif.Hands do not reach.
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27.12.2007 1:30, Bad Den

2 more barbels for KDG mol.gif
Can you tell me?

Vietnam again, Cat Tien, 28. III. 2007, light
Number one-23 mm
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Number TWO-14 MM
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27.12.2007 1:51, Bad Den

And another thing (with these I find it difficult even with the family):
Vietnam, Chanua, Dienbien
01-20.VI.2006

The first one (25-30 mm)
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user posted image

Second (15-18 mm)
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A little later I'll post all smile.gifsorts of

27.12.2007 3:49, Mylabris

The first one, I think, is the nutcracker. And the other one is a darkling.
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27.12.2007 9:06, akulich-sibiria

picture: P1010003_.jpg
And what is the size of the second one ?

about 5 mm.I would say 4.9 smile.gif

27.12.2007 9:11, akulich-sibiria

and here are a couple more..thank you in advance..also about 5 mm..and the last one is even less
picture: P1010004_.jpg
picture: P1010005_.jpg
picture: P1010007_.jpg

27.12.2007 9:19, Bad Den

and here are a couple more..thank you in advance..also about 5 mm..and the last one is even less
picture: P1010005_.jpg
picture: P1010007_.jpg

These are Bembidion sp.

27.12.2007 9:53, KDG

2 more barbels for KDG mol.gif
Can you tell me?

Vietnam again, Cat Tien, 28. III. 2007, light
Number one-23 mm
user posted image
Number two - 14 mm
user posted image

the first is most likely Paraleprodera lecta Gahan, 1888
the second is from the same company, but you need to think about the species. there are a lot of them out there.
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27.12.2007 12:14, Victor Titov

And another thing (with these I find it difficult even with the family):
Vietnam, Chanua, Dienbien
01-20.VI.2006

The first one (25-30 mm)
user posted image

user posted image

Second (15-18 mm)
user posted image

I'll post some more later smile.gif

The first, in my opinion, is the shadow-eater (Melandryidae). But I'm not a nutcracker.
The second - I agree with Mylabris-chernotelka.

27.12.2007 12:23, amara

27.12.2007 12:38, Bad Den

the first is most likely Paraleprodera lecta Gahan, 1888
the second is from the same company, but you need to think about the species. there are a lot of them out there.

Thanks! beer.gif

27.12.2007 12:46, Bad Den

The first, in my opinion, is the shadow-eater (Melandryidae). But I'm not a nutcracker.
The second - I agree with Mylabris-chernotelka.

I was told here that the first one is probably from sem. Callirhipidae
And the second one is something from Elmidae-like... confused.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den - 12/27/2007 12: 48
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27.12.2007 12:58, Victor Titov

It seems that the nutcrackers have 5 hind legs, and the shadow lovers have 4 segmented legs with the first longest one.

Yes, I probably overreacted redface.gifwith the shadow lover . But still, this beetle, the first one in the Bad Den photo, is something from TENEBRIONOIDEA. Maybe a pollen-eater (Alleculidae)? And the nutcracker, well, does not pull. And where are the grooves for inserting the antennae?!

27.12.2007 13:05, Alexandr Rusinov

Hello! I also ask for help in determining dorcadions. Label Data: Turkmenistan, khr. Kurendag, road to Chandyr. Thank you in advance. mol.gif
picture: Dorcadion_1.jpgPicture: Dorcadion_2.jpg

This post was edited by Anthrenus - 12/27/2007 13: 31

27.12.2007 13:08, amara

By the way, Callirhipidae or Cedar beetles, according to one classification, do not belong to the superfamily Elateroidea, but to Byrrhoidea, although they belong to the series Elateriformia.
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27.12.2007 13:25, omar

And another thing (with these I find it difficult even with the family):
Vietnam, Chanua, Dienbien
01-20.VI.2006

The first one (25-30 mm)
user posted image

user posted image

Second (15-18 mm)
user posted image

I'll post some more later smile.gif

Denis, if the first one has comb-like claws, then it is a pollen-eater.
The second one - no, it's not a darkling after all. How was it caught? If in the water or near the water, then yes, maybe Elmidae

This post was edited by omar - 12/27/2007 13: 28
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27.12.2007 14:13, amara

Yes, I probably overreacted redface.gifwith the shadow lover . But still, this beetle, the first one in the Bad Den photo, is something from TENEBRIONOIDEA. Maybe a pollen-eater (Alleculidae)? And the nutcracker, well, does not pull. And where are the grooves for inserting the antennae?!


All Tenebrioids, including Pollen Eaters, as I looked in the book, have 4-segmented hind legs. And this one seems to have 5.

This post was edited by amara - 12/27/2007 14: 15
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27.12.2007 14:35, Bad Den


The second one - no, it's not a darkling after all. How was it caught? If in the water or near the water, then yes, maybe Elmidae

And the so-called God knows where he was caught. The Chinese comrade did not explain... frown.gif

27.12.2007 14:49, Mylabris

Dear Omar, I can't agree that the first one can be a pollen-eater. Even if his claws are smooth: this is not a tenebrioid complex: the formula of the legs is 5-5-4, but about the second one-I'm still for the black calf.

This post was edited by Mylabris - 12/27/2007 14: 50
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27.12.2007 15:02, amara

I was told here that the first one is probably from sem. Callirhipidae
And the second one is something from Elmidae-like... confused.gif

Here, too, everything is decided by the last leg of the black-bodied 4 and the Elmid 5 segmented. Yes, and the last ones, as I read, do not seem to be more than 8 mm. It seems that his eyes are like those of a darkling with a characteristic notch.

This post was edited by amara - 12/27/2007 15: 05
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27.12.2007 16:12, omar

  picture: P1010003_.jpg
about 5 mm.I would say 4.9 smile.gif

Well, yes, Trachypachus zetterstedti is.

27.12.2007 16:18, omar

Dear Omar, I can't agree that the first one can be a pollen-eater. Even if his claws are smooth: this is not a tenebrioid complex: the formula of the legs is 5-5-4, but about the second one-I'm still for the black calf.

Yes, I can see for myself now that I'm a blackling. The cheeks hanging over the sawyere bases are very characteristic. I took a quick look and immediately had to leave. frown.gif
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27.12.2007 16:26, Victor Titov

Dear Omar, I can't agree that the first one can be a pollen-eater. Even if his claws are smooth: this is not a tenebrioid complex: the formula of the legs is 5-5-4, but about the second one-I'm still for the black calf.

Yes, in a deep pardonshuffle.gif, This is not TENEBRIONOIDEA...

27.12.2007 16:35, KDG

[quote=Anthrenus,27.12.2007 13:05]

27.12.2007 16:36, omar

and here are a couple more..thank you in advance..also about 5 mm..and the last one is even less
picture: P1010004_.jpg
picture: P1010005_.jpg
picture: P1010007_.jpg

I see the first ground beetle as an undecorated Anthracus consputus
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28.12.2007 1:13, Fornax13

And another thing (with these I find it difficult even with the family):
Vietnam, Chanua, Dienbien
01-20.VI.2006

The first one (25-30 mm)
user posted image

user posted image

Second (15-18 mm)
user posted image

I'll post some more later smile.gif


1st - possibly Eulichas (Eulichadidae).
2nd - really or chernotelka, or Alleculidae
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28.12.2007 1:18, Fornax13

and here are a couple more..thank you in advance..also about 5 mm..and the last one is even less
picture: P1010004_.jpg
picture: P1010005_.jpg
picture: P1010007_.jpg

The first one, in my opinion, looks like some kind of Dicheirotrichus (like rufithorax)
The rest are some gloomy bambi.
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28.12.2007 2:06, Bad Den

1st - possibly Eulichas (Eulichadidae).

To the point! jump.gif
Thanks!

28.12.2007 5:45, Mylabris

Gentlemen, has anyone seen Saulciella schmidti? Is that her? The size is about 1.8-2 mm.

Pictures:
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28.12.2007 10:18, amara

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28.12.2007 10:22, Bad Den

although as they say in the same book (American beetles V2, 2002) beetles are from 10 to 15 mm (error?).

This is just apparently about the American species of this family...

28.12.2007 10:38, amara

This is just apparently about the American species of this family...


You're right. Here is a description of one species of this genus (with photo):
http://www.nhm-wien.ac.at/NHM/2Zoo/coleopt...2/kr0209tx.html

so it's a similar size to your bug.
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28.12.2007 10:44, Alexandr Rusinov

Thank you so much! You just saved me! Why don't you check out another copy? shuffle.gif Label Data: Kyrgyzstan, Przhevalsk district.
picture: Dorcadion_3.jpg

28.12.2007 15:26, amara

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28.12.2007 21:49, KDG

Thank you so much! You just saved me! Why don't you check out another copy? shuffle.gif Label Data: Kyrgyzstan, Przhevalsk district.
picture: Dorcadion_3.jpg

D. semenovi
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28.12.2007 23:16, Mylabris

Andrey, can you help me with the dorkashes?
1. 8.04.2006 SE Kazakhstan, left bank of the Ili River, 19 km below HPP
2. 16.04.2006 SE Kazakhstan, 7 km NW Issyk
3. 3.05.1994 South Kazakhstan, Karatau Mountains, okr. Zhanatasa
4. 22.05.2004 SV Priaralie, 8 km zapadne Aralsk. presumably glycirrhizae androssovi.
5 and 6 20.04.2007 Trans-Ili Alatau, starboard side of the Almatinka River, south slope, 1300 m.

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29.12.2007 3:52, Fornax13

Gentlemen, has anyone seen Saulciella schmidti? Is that her? The size is about 1.8-2 mm.

It should be somewhere around 1.25 mm. And this is something from Brachyglutini, but hardly actually Brachygluta.
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29.12.2007 11:32, treator

I apologize for the quality of the photo

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29.12.2007 11:42, Bad Den

I apologize for the quality of the photo

Mesosa curculionoides
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29.12.2007 13:50, omar

Mesosa myops still probably
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