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09.03.2017 11:52, Bianor

Probably

Of the similar ones, we only have Amraica superans and Hypomecis phantomaria, and these are clearly not these species in your picture, but I'm not sure about the Kuril Islands.

09.03.2017 15:47, MIV

Is this the same thing as her, or something close?
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district July 2. Size cr. 41mm

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09.03.2017 16:31, Bianor

Is this the same thing as her, or something close?
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district July 2. Size cr. 41mm

It's more like Hypomecis phantomaria.

PS
tell us, how do you take photos without a shadow under a butterfly?

This post was edited by Bianor - 09.03.2017 16: 35
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10.03.2017 10:01, Андреас

Welcome, dear colleagues. I really want to know the name of this scoop. It was shot this year on March 7 on the wall of a forester's hut in the backwoods of the Bryansk region. (I don't remember any of those who wintered on the CMS...)
With respect, cool.gif

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10.03.2017 10:15, Andrey Bezborodkin

Welcome, dear colleagues. I really want to know the name of this scoop. It was shot this year on March 7 on the wall of a forester's hut in the backwoods of the Bryansk region. (I don't remember any of those who wintered on the CMS...)
With respect, cool.gif

This Conistra, most likely C. rubiginosa, overwinters the adult.
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10.03.2017 10:18, Alexandr Zhakov

Welcome, dear colleagues. I really want to know the name of this scoop. It was shot this year on March 7 on the wall of a forester's hut in the backwoods of the Bryansk region. (I don't remember any of those who wintered on the CMS...)
With respect, cool.gif

Wintering scoop Conistra rubiginosa.
https://insecta.pro/taxonomy/8100
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10.03.2017 14:50, barko

Does anyone have any suggestions about this scoop? At first glance, it seemed Anarta trifoli, but on closer inspection, I noticed a mustache, eyes without hairs, and the size is slightly larger - 34mm (trifoli 29-30). Caught in Khakassia, forest-steppe in the foothills of the Kuznetsk Alatau, in early August.
Euxoa cursoria (Hufnagel, 1766)
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10.03.2017 18:47, MIV

It's more like Hypomecis phantomaria.
PS
tell us, how do you take photos without a shadow under a butterfly?


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By the way, do you know this moth?
Khasansky district on July 5. Size 36mm.
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10.03.2017 19:11, Bianor

Thanks! I assumed something similar. Here's another way to come up with a simple spotob, how to make the background transparent.

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10.03.2017 22:44, Андреас

11.03.2017 5:25, Bianor

The topic about photo equipment has long been plagued by a duel between two neighbors, so you can't even discuss interesting issues there.
I generally know what you wrote, but for a high-quality photo, the background still has to be changed, because there may be a year or more between two photos, the hue and lighting of the background will be different, and the photos will differ. Even the battery charge is not affected. You may also find that someone needs a lilac background, or a gray background, or a pure white background. So you can't do without simple rules of photography, no matter how hard you try. So far, I've come up with the idea of photographing a butterfly on a bright colored background, and then cutting it out through color selection, but the process is time-consuming, and most importantly, it doesn't work with semi-transparent views.

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11.03.2017 9:24, Андреас

11.03.2017 17:56, Roman1963

Dear colleagues! In our region (indicated on the label), in theory, there should be (according to Tuzov) a subspecies hypophlaeas (Boisduval, 1852). It really is enough. But this instance is very similar to ssp. chinensis (Felder, 1862). Externally and in size (the span of the cr. 30 mm), it is noticeably different and one and a half times larger than the hypoflaeas. I doubt something about the definition. Can someone tell me what the catch is or my mistake?

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11.03.2017 17:59, Roman1963

To catch up with the photo of the upper projection..

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13.03.2017 18:12, Андреас

People, for the life of me - I can't figure out who it is - Nymphalis polychloros, or Nymphalis xanthomelas!?
There is no undergarment. Just taken in Moscow, Kurkino.

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13.03.2017 18:12, Vlad Proklov

People, for the life of me - I can't figure out who it is - Nymphalis polychloros, or Nymphalis xanthomelas!?
There is no undergarment. Just taken in Moscow, Kurkino.

xanthomelas
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13.03.2017 18:16, Андреас

Thank you)
It's just that we don't have this view (I only saw it in early autumn in Krasnoyarsk), and comparing it on the Internet from photos of the front side, I just got mad and didn't understand anything.

13.03.2017 18:45, NIKSTER

Thank you)
It's just that we don't have this view (I only saw it in early autumn in Krasnoyarsk), and comparing it on the Internet from photos of the front side, I just got mad and didn't understand anything.

Note to avoid confusion in the definition: N. xanthomelas is darker than N. polychloros, this is if you meet more similar smile.gifpolychromates
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14.03.2017 6:05, maik

Thank you)
It's just that we don't have this view (I only saw it in early autumn in Krasnoyarsk), and comparing it on the Internet from photos of the front side, I just got mad and didn't understand anything.

Yes, in general, we have a lot of these butterflies in Stavropol. You just didn't come across them, so it would be more accurate

This post was edited by maik - 14.03.2017 06: 11

14.03.2017 16:14, Андреас

14.03.2017 20:50, maik

- I have never seen them at the CMS, although I read on the website of Butterflies of the Caucasus that in 2013 there was a flight expansion of them...
By the way, I wonder if these two species live somewhere side by side? They seem to have the same food plants...

I caught both xanthomelas and polychloros on the same day near Stavropol in the spring and more than one specimen at a time

This post was edited by maik - 14.03.2017 20: 58
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14.03.2017 22:19, NIKSTER

- I have never seen them at the CMS, although I read on the website of Butterflies of the Caucasus that in 2013 there was a flight expansion of them...
By the way, I wonder if these two species live somewhere side by side? They seem to have the same food plants...

I caught both xanthomelas and polychloros on the same day near Stavropol in the spring and more than one specimen at a time

These two kinds are pretty common, I think almost everywhere smile.gif
But there is another interesting species - this is Nymphalis vaualbum smile.gif. In Ukraine, it is very rare and I have never come across it. So keep your eyes open smile.gif

14.03.2017 22:33, MIV

Maybe someone knows what kind of scoop it is from the Altai (okr. Shabolino)? Caught on July 10. Size: 33mm.
Sorry I didn't save my mustache.

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14.03.2017 23:37, barko

Maybe someone knows what kind of scoop it is from the Altai (okr. Shabolino)? Caught on July 10. Size: 33mm.
Sorry I didn't save my mustache.
Lacanobia splendens
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15.03.2017 18:08, Андреас

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15.03.2017 22:02, rhopalocera.com

The topic about photo equipment has long been plagued by a duel between two neighbors, so you can't even discuss interesting issues there.
I generally know what you wrote, but for a high-quality photo, the background still has to be changed, because there may be a year or more between two photos, the hue and lighting of the background will be different, and the photos will differ. Even the battery charge is not affected. You may also find that someone needs a lilac background, or a gray background, or a pure white background. So you can't do without simple rules of photography, no matter how hard you try. So far, I've come up with the idea of photographing a butterfly on a bright colored background, and then cutting it out through color selection, but the process is time-consuming, and most importantly, it doesn't work with semi-transparent views.

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And I manually cut out the background in Photoshop. I don't believe in automatic weapons, and the ragged edges of the magnetic lasso annoy me. All my photos on a white background are hand-cut.

15.03.2017 22:24, Андреас

And I manually cut out the background in Photoshop. I don't believe in automatic weapons, and the ragged edges of the magnetic lasso annoy me. All my photos on a white background are hand-cut.

- It is clear that completely trusting the machine is not a grateful thing. It's just that first he has to make an initial selection (especially when the background color purposefully contrasts), and then filigree suffer "handles". But for me personally, for some reason after that, it's not my hands that hurt, but my eyes) smile.gif

16.03.2017 8:00, Bianor

Almost on a clean machine:

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Gandarithis fixseni

16.03.2017 19:11, Динусик

Please help me identify the egg yolk. Is this Colias crocea or am I wrong again? rolleyes.gif
Photo taken in early November in the vicinity of Shumen (Bulgaria)

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16.03.2017 19:18, NIKSTER

Please help me identify the egg yolk. Is this Colias crocea or am I wrong again? rolleyes.gif 
Photo taken in early November in the vicinity of Shumen (Bulgaria)

Most likely Colias croceus

16.03.2017 19:20, Динусик

Thanks! smile.gif

16.03.2017 20:32, svm2

Maybe someone knows what kind of scoop it is from the Altai (okr. Shabolino)? Caught on July 10. Size: 33mm.
Sorry I didn't save my mustache.

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Well, L. splendes, in my opinion, does not quite pull either in shape or pattern, and if you look into her brown eyes, you are unlikely to see hairs( in any case, I will be surprised). And if this is the case, then pay attention to Pseudohermonassa ononensis, a variable butterfly, you may have this option.
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16.03.2017 23:05, rhopalocera.com

Almost on a clean machine:

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Gandarithis fixseni



The edges are torn.
Manually:

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17.03.2017 0:45, MIV

Well, L. splendes, in my opinion, does not quite pull either in shape or pattern, and if you look into her brown eyes, you are unlikely to see hairs( in any case, I will be surprised). And if this is the case, then pay attention to Pseudohermonassa ononensis, a variable butterfly, you may have this option.


Yes, Vassily, how right you are! You won't believe it, but the label was signed "P. ononensis ?" .

17.03.2017 11:36, Bianor

The edges are torn.

This is understandable. But here's an automaton, plus primitive edge processing on a tablet:

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17.03.2017 22:57, Андреас

Please tell me - is it polychloros, yil xanthomelas? Filmed in Pyatigorsk at the gray-water spring.
It seems that we usually have the first one...

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17.03.2017 23:06, NIKSTER

Please tell me - is it polychloros, yil xanthomelas? Filmed in Pyatigorsk at the gray-water spring.
It seems that we usually have the first one...

N. xanthomelas
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18.03.2017 21:09, Андреас

  N. xanthomelas

- Yes?.... - strange. By the way, that was the first time I ever met her! Especially in the summer! And polychloros in spring in flooded areas near forest streams is a common occurrence here.

18.03.2017 23:24, NIKSTER

- Yes?.... - strange.

What's the weird part? smile.gif
This is pure xanthomelas.
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19.03.2017 0:09, Andrey Bezborodkin

- Yes?.... - strange.

Here is a picture that someone posted on the forum a long time ago. One difference out of several is noted, but this is enough.
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