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16.11.2017 21:33, Alexandr Zhakov

Here I am reading the young man's lamentations and I can't understand anything. What was he offended by and who offended him confused.gif
Vlad, made an interesting suggestion, which, if you remember well, was more than once. If two subspecies are found on the same territory, it means that they are either different species ( the same swallowtail Maaka and Apollo Kirichenko) or they are not subspecies, but intraspecific variability. Where is the mockery and banter here?
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16.11.2017 22:04, vie.absorbee

Yes, Icarus and Eumedon. There are such female icarus, and often.

Thanks! Apparently I've seen some brown ones before.

17.11.2017 14:51, Vagabond

Carcharodus alceae? Turkey. Kemer. 30.10.2015

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17.11.2017 15:29, vidjl

Carcharodus alceae? Turkey. Kemer. 30.10.2015

Yes, it is.
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17.11.2017 16:50, vidjl

Please help me identify woodworms from Tajikistan. Caught (not by me) around mid-July near Khorog.
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Similar to Cossulus strioliger (Alpheraky, 1893)
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17.11.2017 22:21, vidjl

Please help me identify woodworms from Tajikistan. Caught (not by me) around mid-July near Khorog.
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Dervishiya sp., maybe D. sindhi (it's not 100%). Roman Yakovlev will definitely tell you if it appears.

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18.11.2017 9:03, maik

Pyadenitsa Stavropol garden on light 06.06.17. L - 20 mm
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ibid. 27.6.17. L-18 mm
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18.11.2017 10:06, AGG

1-Idaea ? seriata (SCHRANK, 1802), but I may be wrong shuffle.gif
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18.11.2017 10:53, svm2

2-Eupithecia spissilineata
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18.11.2017 15:56, vie.absorbee

I would be grateful for any clarifications on the Pskov golubyanki.
In Polyommatus icarus f. icarinus, there are no points between the discal spot and the root at all, or can it be absent only in place #1, but in # 2 be? Or is it some other form of Polyommatus icarus altogether?
23.06.2017 Pskov region. Pustoshkinsky district. d Kopylok.
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Is it Plebejus argyrognomon or idas? 31.07.2017 Pskov region. Pustoshkinsky district, Zaozerye village, forest.
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18.11.2017 16:10, TEMPUS

I would be grateful for any clarifications on the Pskov golubyanki.
In Polyommatus icarus f. icarinus, there are no points between the discal spot and the root at all, or can it be absent only in place #1, but in # 2 be? Or is it some other form of Polyommatus icarus altogether?

In Polyommatus icarus f. icarinus, the points between the discal spot and the root are completely absent. Your photo shows a typical icarus.
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18.11.2017 18:06, vie.absorbee

It's clear. A number of questions also disappeared on my other copies of ikarus smile.gif

18.11.2017 18:23, cleobis@mail.ru cleobis@mail.ru

Anatoly, hi! Biology, of course, should be taught especially after the spread of the red palm weevil and antonia in Sochi and Spain. They weren't there either! Just posted a photo on the forum, you can see that different, why, that's all that was required! Of course, you can talk a lot about variability. The authors cite different things so I got confused, asked a more experienced opinion and then heavy artillery, cats, hippos, like I'm an asshole at all and I don't know anything at all. You can after all somehow respond normally and not be clever with podebony! I think something like this.

The Blue Book Project - 2106

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19.11.2017 0:50, RoPro

Is it possible to identify this leaflet from this angle ? Moscow region, 18.06.2017

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19.11.2017 1:17, Vlad Proklov

Is it possible to identify this leaflet from this angle ? Moscow region, 18.06.2017

This is not a leaf wrapper, but Glyphipterix sp.
More precisely, this angle is not. But, like, not forsterella.
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19.11.2017 1:44, vidjl

Is it possible to identify this leaflet from this angle ? Moscow region, 18.06.2017

This is not a leaf wrapper, but Glyphipterix sp.
More precisely, this angle is not. But, like, not forsterella.


Maybe G. haworthana ? It seems similar from this angle. By the way, it can also be forsterella, the wings are simply compressed.

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19.11.2017 8:56, RoPro

19.11.2017 11:37, ярослав

Good afternoon.Help with the definition.Orenburg, surroundings, on the meadow.2.07.2017г.

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19.11.2017 11:40, Ilia Ustiantcev

This is not a leaf wrapper, but Glyphipterix sp.
More precisely, this angle is not. But, like, not forsterella.


Judging by the barely visible white spot in the black field just forsterella

19.11.2017 12:51, AGG

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19.11.2017 14:10, Vlad Proklov

Thanks ! smile.gif 11.06.2017 (one week earlier) this butterfly was also shot there. Glyphipterix forsterella ? Then maybe the previously laid out butterfly is also it.

This one is G. forsterella stopudovo (on the top of the wing there is a bright dot in the middle of a black field).
I don't know where Ilya saw this dot from the previous one...
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19.11.2017 21:27, MIV

I don't know much about satyrs from Central Asia. I think that experts will not find it difficult to identify these Chazara, for which I am very grateful in advance.
Butterflies from Kyrgyzstan, Naryn region, Ak-Tal settlement. 18.07.06

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19.11.2017 22:13, Andrey Bezborodkin

I don't know much about satyrs from Central Asia. I think that experts will not find it difficult to identify these Chazara, for which I am very grateful in advance.
Butterflies from Kyrgyzstan, Naryn region, Ak-Tal settlement. 18.07.06
 

Ch. staudingeri ssp. gultschensis Grum-Grshimailo, 1888
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22.11.2017 7:09, Bianor

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Amur
Regionutographa mandarina?

22.11.2017 11:34, Andrey Bezborodkin

  
Amur
Regionutographa mandarina?

The look of a typical mandarina. Nothing from the Amur-Primorye-Japanese fauna with the same silver threads on the wings seems to be there. Nigrisigna has a different central spot shape.
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22.11.2017 16:43, vidjl

At first I thought it was Thera variata. Then I decided it was more like Pennithera comis. But maybe there are other options? Sakhalin

Pennithera comis (Butler, 1879)
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22.11.2017 20:39, Natalie Liliya

Please help me identify the golubyanka. Ukraine, Zaporozhye. 17.05.2017.
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22.11.2017 20:46, Kharkovbut

Please help me identify the golubyanka. Ukraine, Zaporozhye. 17.05.2017.
Lysandra bellargus, female

---> http://izan.kiev.ua/ukrbin/

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23.11.2017 5:31, Ольга Титова

Pennithera comis (Butler, 1879)

Still Pennithera comis . Confirmed by Evgeny Anatolyevich.
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23.11.2017 9:28, Gans75

Ukraine, Rivne region, May 14.
Crambidae ??
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23.11.2017 9:56, Ilia Ustiantcev

Panemeria tenebrata
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23.11.2017 12:20, vidjl

Still Pennithera comis . Confirmed Evgeny Anatolyevich.

It is not difficult to identify it, there are few similar ones, on a trip in 1997 to Sakhalin, near the village of Lesogorsk, he collected 23 butterflies there for light at night by the river.

23.11.2017 12:37, Ольга Титова

Now I will be familiar with Pennithera comis. Why is it still not marked for Sakhalin? I wonder in what month you observed her years.

23.11.2017 15:11, vidjl

Now I will be familiar with Pennithera comis. Why is it still not marked for Sakhalin? I wonder in what month you observed her years.

On Sakhalin on September 12-15, in Vladivostok too, but much later on September 25-29, 1997. I have it labeled under the old generic name - Cidaria comis. I don't even know why it wasn't mentioned. Back then, I just collected butterflies, didn't spread them out, didn't define them, the purpose of the trip was from the ornithological area. Disassembly and definition made already in 2005, before that everything was securely stored.

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23.11.2017 15:30, Ольга Титова

Thank you. Date of my copy.it fits, September 16.

23.11.2017 17:56, Romanov2000

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Oleg, hello! Please excuse me on the subject of the Kunashir swallowtail. Just slightly infuriated by the answers of more experienced people than me. You have provided a photo of the hippocrates subspecies. But then what about the subspecies septentrionalis which is just from the Kuril Kunashir that I have in the photo and in the descriptions of other authors? I have a pair of one-on-one septentrionalis and the third dog is his knows who, well, he doesn't look like him, incredibly wide bandages that septentrionalis doesn't have, and at the same time bright yellow??? On the forum, I think you should also apologize.

23.11.2017 18:20, Romanov2000

Or it may be that they are two different types - and both are there.
And the confusion in the testimony of researchers is due to the fact that only one person caught their eye.

Dear KotBegemot! I sincerely apologize to you for the Kunashir swallowtails. Forgive the fool! Moreover, the Hippo is one of the favorite characters in Bulgakov. Sorry again (GDP)! Thanks also to NIKSTER and vidjl. Just a lot of enthusiasm and experience while alas little.

23.11.2017 21:38, MIV

What kind of moth? Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, Snezhnitsa station, on nivyannik. 1.09.16.

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24.11.2017 0:52, vidjl

Oleg, hello! Please excuse me on the subject of the Kunashir swallowtail. Just slightly infuriated by the answers of more experienced people than me. You have provided a photo of the hippocrates subspecies. But then what about the subspecies septentrionalis which is just from the Kuril Kunashir that I have in the photo and in the descriptions of other authors? I have a pair of one-on-one septentrionalis and the third dog is his knows who, well, he doesn't look like him, incredibly wide bandages that septentrionalis doesn't have, and at the same time bright yellow??? On the forum, I think you should also apologize.

Alexey, the forum has a topic about subspecies of swallowtails:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...%F5%E0%EE%ED%FB
Take a look, you may find a lot of interesting things and the answer.

This post was edited by vidjl - 24.11.2017 01: 17

24.11.2017 1:33, Vagabond

Colias crocea? Turkey, Kemer, end of October. Only crocea, alfacariensis, and aurorina are listed for the region.

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