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14.11.2017 12:32, vidjl

All butterflies from M. O.,

Tell me if you remember what was caught on 11-13 Pennisetia hylaeiformis ?

14.11.2017 14:02, Vlad Proklov

All butterflies from M. O.,

5 - Angerona prunaria
14 - Lygephila craccae
22 - Lithophane lamda
30, 31, 35 - Aporophyla lutulenta bullshit sporol
36-Diarsia florida
38 - Euxoa sp. c. adumbrata?

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14.11.2017 14:10, Alexandr Zhakov

  
30, 31, 35 - Aporophyla lutulenta

Yeah, Aporophyla lutulenta, late April-early May. smile.gif
Orthosia incerta smile.gif
or maybe Orthosia opima, worn.
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14.11.2017 14:12, Vlad Proklov

Yeah, Aporophyla lutulenta, late April-early May. smile.gif
Orthosia incerta smile.gif

Oi. lol.gif

14.11.2017 14:14, Vlad Proklov

I just remember that Sdi's lutulents fly, but Gennadich's is not far from there. So I blurted out.

14.11.2017 14:17, Andrey Bezborodkin

Yeah, Aporophyla lutulenta, late April-early May. smile.gif
Orthosia incerta smile.gif

And it seems to be more similar to O. opima?
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14.11.2017 14:24, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes I already fixed smile.gif
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14.11.2017 15:24, Andrey Ponomarev

Tell me if you remember what was caught on 11-13 Pennisetia hylaeiformis ?

These are not my fees, so I don't know.
You should ask sdi.

14.11.2017 16:40, Romanov2000

Friends! Without straightening, it is probably impossible to determine with certainty?
Photos 1 and 2 of the Yenisei ridge from 24.06. to 6.07.2015.

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14.11.2017 17:04, vidjl

Friends! Without straightening, it is probably impossible to determine with certainty?
Photos 1 and 2 of the Yenisei ridge from 24.06. to 6.07.2015.

1 photo all-Enargia paleacea (Esper, 1788) - here is an error with the date you have, the years of this scoop on the Yenisei Ridge from the end of July to the whole of August.
2 photos 1-Lacanobia thalassina, 2 and 4-Acronicta lutea, 3-battered, in my opinion, the scoop Tethea or

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14.11.2017 18:04, Sergey Didenko

Tell me if you remember what was caught on 11-13 Pennisetia hylaeiformis ?

On a birch trunk
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14.11.2017 20:20, MIV

  
2 and 4-Acronicta lutea


In my opinion, the banal Acronicta rumicis.
We should straighten it out.
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14.11.2017 20:45, vidjl

In my opinion, the banal Acronicta rumicis.
We should straighten it out.


Yes, we should straighten it out. Judging by the appearance of the lower wings of one of the butterflies, I also thought that they were very gray for A. lutea. Let's see, I was also leaning more towards A. rumicis. Acronicta lutea in 1990-1991, I just caught on the Yenisei Ridge and not a little, near the Cossack threshold.

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14.11.2017 22:19, Vlad Proklov

And this is pratellus?
user posted image

This is also lathoniellus.

Here is pratellus (with Nerskaya, it is in the sandy pine forests I came across in MO):

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15.11.2017 0:00, MIV

Acronicta lutea in 1990-1991, I just caught on the Yenisei Ridge and not a little, near the Cossack threshold.


What region are you from? If it's not a secret.

15.11.2017 0:40, vidjl

What region are you from? If it's not a secret.

From Western Siberia smile.gif
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15.11.2017 1:36, Romanov2000

Yes, we should straighten it out. Judging by the appearance of the lower wings of one of the butterflies, I also thought that they were very gray for A. lutea. Let's see, I was also leaning more towards A. rumicis. Acronicta lutea in 1990-1991, I just caught on the Yenisei Ridge and not a little, near the Cossack threshold.

Thank you very much! I'll try to straighten it out in the near future.

15.11.2017 11:50, Screpochka

How cute they are these butterfliessmile.gif

15.11.2017 15:17, MIV

Please help me identify woodworms from Tajikistan. Caught (not by me) around mid-July near Khorog.

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15.11.2017 15:56, Alexandr Zhakov

moth from the North.South Ossetia Okr. p. Dargavs July 2017 N-1400m meadows
3. L-33mm

Hypena proboscidalis (Linnaeus, 1758)
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15.11.2017 16:39, svm2

Moth moth Scotopteryx aelptes
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15.11.2017 18:08, Sergey Rybalkin

Can you tell me if this is Trichosea ludifica (Linnaeus, 1758)? Or another member of the genus Trichosea?
Collected on Kunashir.

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15.11.2017 19:27, Romanov2000

Friends, welcome!
Kunashir has 2 subspecies, R. m. septentrionalis and R. m. hippocrates. The first 2 photos of septentrionalis f+m are given for comparison with the 3rd one. The latter seems to be neither one nor the other, rather small in size compared to the rest, above the eye between red and blue there is a black stripe, but not pronounced like hippocrates, and the color is too dark for the latter. All from one place, Kunashir, 14.07.2005

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15.11.2017 22:33, KM2200

Friends, welcome!
Kunashir has 2 subspecies, R. m. septentrionalis and R. m. hippocrates. The first 2 photos of septentrionalis f+m are given for comparison with the 3rd one. The latter seems to be neither one nor the other, rather small in size compared to the rest, above the eye between red and blue there is a black stripe, but not pronounced like hippocrates, and the color is too dark for the latter. All from one place, Kunashir, 14.07.2005
A purely theoretical question, how can there be 2 subspecies in the same place? Should subspecies be separated geographically?
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15.11.2017 22:55, Sergey Rybalkin

I agree, complete nonsense, on a small island can not live two subspecies! But on different islands, easily!
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15.11.2017 23:22, NIKSTER

I agree, complete nonsense, on a small island can not live two subspecies! But on different islands, easily!

Then it turns out that this is a flight of one subspecies into the territory of another shuffle.gif
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16.11.2017 1:16, vidjl

According to biological law, two subspecies of the same species cannot exist in the same territory, in the same biogeographic region, unless they have intelligence. smile.gif Agreed probably))

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16.11.2017 1:44, Romanov2000

A purely theoretical question, how can there be 2 subspecies in the same place? Should subspecies be separated geographically?

I totally agree, the point is that they should be separated. The first thing that confused me was that the latter did not fit into the description of septentrionalis as the upper ones. There is of course variability within the view, but not so much. The second, according to A. I. Kurentsov and V. K. Tuzov, is septentrionalis, while Japan naturally remains behind hippocrates. Yu. P. Korshunov, on the contrary, points out that in the Kuril Islands R. m. hippocrates and gives characteristic features. So I just got confused.

16.11.2017 1:54, Vlad Proklov

Or it may be that they are two different types - and both are there.
And the confusion in the testimony of researchers is due to the fact that only one person caught their eye.
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16.11.2017 11:39, Ольга Титова

Can you tell me if this is Trichosea ludifica (Linnaeus, 1758)? Or another member of the genus Trichosea?
Collected on Kunashir.

There is also Trichosea champa, I would like to understand the differences. On the underside of the lower wings?

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16.11.2017 12:16, Andrey Bezborodkin

There is also Trichosea champa, I would like to understand the differences. On the underside of the lower wings?

The underparts are a little different. Well, champa should be bigger.
http://outdoor.geocities.jp/nabenight/4kibarakenmon.htm
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16.11.2017 12:52, Ольга Титова

So Sergey has Trichosea ludifica ? Thank you, visual site.

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16.11.2017 15:12, barko

14 Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district SNT "Neftyanik" 19.06.2010, 32 mm.
viciae
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16.11.2017 16:18, Andrey Bezborodkin

So Sergey has Trichosea ludifica ? Thank you, visual site.

More likely yes than no, and not even on the underside: the outer sinuous line of the top. kr. is not so jagged.
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16.11.2017 16:37, cleobis@mail.ru cleobis@mail.ru

A purely theoretical question, how can there be 2 subspecies in the same place? Should subspecies be separated geographically?

2 subspecies in one place-excluded !!! Learn biology. No, maybe someone of course brought it from Hokkaido and released it to be funny. In Russian cities, tropical butterflies also sometimes fly.

16.11.2017 17:06, rhopalocera.com

Udea prunalis?
Korolev, Moscow region, July 05, 1998
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Udea lutealis or Udea exalbalis?
Omsk, Victory Park, June 12, 2008
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These two are only cooked. The variability is wild.
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16.11.2017 18:26, vie.absorbee

Please tell me about the pigeon houses.
Is this Polyommatus icarus? 05.08.2016 Pskov region, Pustoshkinsky district, Maslovo village.
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Polyommatus icarus? 08.07.2016 Pskov region, Pustoshkinsky district, Baturino village.
I've never seen such very blue females
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Eumedonia eumedon? 21.07.2017г. Pskov region, Pustoshkinsky district, Soino village.
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16.11.2017 18:40, Andrey Bezborodkin

Please tell me about the pigeon houses.
Is this Polyommatus icarus? 05.08.2016 Pskov region, Pustoshkinsky district, Maslovo village.
Eumedonia eumedon? 21.07.2017г. Pskov region, Pustoshkinsky district, Soino village.


Yes, Icarus and Eumedon. There are such female icarus, and often.
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16.11.2017 18:40, Romanov2000

Or it may be that they are two different types - and both are there.
And the confusion in the testimony of researchers is due to the fact that only one person caught their eye.

Dear KotBegemot (GDP) probably from Bulgakov) For that matter, there may be different types for ...., if there were any. I appreciate and respect your experience, but I think it's not very nice to fuck up, or what? Although it may become a habit for you? Well, maybe I'm wrong, go ahead! Be proud of your Self! And knowledge! And I'm really the Gentleman who chose the smallest character for Nick, sorry for my interest that I show on the forum. Next time, before I take an interest in something, I will first take an interest in your sarcasm.

16.11.2017 21:02, Romanov2000

2 subspecies in one place-excluded !!! Learn biology. No, maybe someone of course brought it from Hokkaido and released it to be funny. In Russian cities, tropical butterflies also sometimes fly.

Anatoly, hi! Biology, of course, should be taught especially after the spread of the red palm weevil and antonia in Sochi and Spain. They weren't there either! Just posted a photo on the forum, you can see that different, why, that's all that was required! Of course, you can talk a lot about variability. The authors cite different things so I got confused, asked a more experienced opinion and then heavy artillery, cats, hippos, like I'm an asshole at all and I don't know anything at all. You can after all somehow respond normally and not be clever with podebony! I think something like this.

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