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12.12.2017 17:46, ярослав

Orenburg, July, on light.

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12.12.2017 18:01, ИНО

Do not get dirty, upload to radical, an old proven site, links to photos work for many years, if you register there, start a page and upload to it:
http://radikal.ru/
And I think you don't need to delete anything at all, the site contains a lot of information and photos that are very useful for entomologists. You just need to wait for more servers to be added. I think the site owners are aware of the problem.
Here is just an example with Amata trigonophora (Turner, 1898):
user posted image
Choose the link "picture in text" copy and paste here.

Tags
CODE[url=http://radikal.ru][/url]
extra ones. IMHO It's better this way:
CODE[url=full-earth_map address_] [img]address_view[/img [/url] When uploading to a photo hosting site, choose to create a preview of a digestible size: 600 - 900 pixels on the long side (usually smaller by default). Then it will be almost the same as with the forum storage: click to switch to a full-size file. But they will probably delete it over time.

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12.12.2017 18:04, vidjl

<noindex><a href='http://radikal.ru' target='_blank'></a></noindex> лишние

What is "extra", already loaded like this?

12.12.2017 18:09, vidjl

Orenburg, July, on light.

Very bad shooting angle, similar to Laodamia faecella
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12.12.2017 18:14, vidjl

12.12.2017 18:20, ИНО

Unnecessary transition to the main page of the radical when clicking on the image. This is useful only for viewing ads on banners placed there. In general, there should not be any links to html pages in the BB-code for inserting an image on the forum (if the purpose of advertising the site is not worth it), but no photo hosting service will voluntarily give out the correct code (because this goal is right in front of them), you will have to finish a little manually so that only links to graphic files. You just need to spend a very small amount of time learning how these codes work.

12.12.2017 18:24, vidjl

Unnecessary transition to the main page of the radical when clicking on the image. This is useful only for viewing ads on banners placed there. In general, there should not be any links to html pages in the BB-code for inserting an image on the forum (if the purpose of advertising the site is not worth it), but no photo hosting service will voluntarily give out the correct code (because this goal is right in front of them), you will have to finish a little manually so that only links to graphic files. You just need to spend a very small amount of time learning how these codes work.

They don't bother me. "Picture in text", why click on it to go, and so everything is visible. There you can set the desired size immediately, which will be displayed on the forum, and you don't need to click on the photo. If only you need to download the original image, and advertising interferes only there, when uploading photos to the site.
You can use this site, the same as radical:
http://fastpic.ru/
I've been using this for 10 years, and it's not bad either.

This post was edited by vidjl - 12.12.2017 18: 35

12.12.2017 18:40, ИНО

It's clear to you that it doesn't bother you, you know what's there, and don't wake up to click. But other users do not know and will click once the cursor has accepted the appropriate form. And there's not even a photo on the page, one ad is a bummer. Therefore, if you don't want to show the full size, just make the image unclicable. So that ads don't interfere with loading, install Adblock (or something similar to your browser).

12.12.2017 19:14, vidjl

It's clear to you that it doesn't bother you, you know what's there, and don't wake up to click. But other users do not know and will click once the cursor has accepted the appropriate form. And there's not even a photo on the page, one ad is a bummer. Therefore, if you don't want to show the full size, just make the image unclicable. So that ads don't interfere with loading, install Adblock (or something similar to your browser).

I don't know why it bothers you, no advertising bothers me at all. Even if I click on a photo, because I am registered, the click-through goes to the photo uploaded to my page in radical. There you can set it up during registration so that if you click on the photo, you will be redirected to your page with the original photo, and you can disable a lot of ads, except for the top banners.
To make a photo non-clickable, you need to manually reconfigure the links, and I'm not a programmer to do this, kill my time, the question is why. The one who is usually hindered by advertising, just a little memory in the computer, apparently because of advertising freezes, I do not. I just immediately disable pop-up pages and that's it, there are no problems.
I gave you a link to find out who can use it, if it bothers you, don't use it. Soon I think it will be possible to load on the forum itself as before, many people succeed.

12.12.2017 19:49, ИНО

14.12.2017 15:30, Andrey Ponomarev

Phyllonorycter blancardella или Phyllonorycter oxyacanthae?
1 m. o., Ramenskiy district, Zhukovsky city park on Siberian hawthorn (Crataegus sanguinea) 10.10.2017
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14.12.2017 15:41, Andrey Ponomarev

2 m. o., Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district, pos. Poplar on Siberian hawthorn (Crataegus sanguinea) 17.09.2017
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16.12.2017 0:45, vidjl

Phyllonorycter blancardella или Phyllonorycter oxyacanthae?
1 m. o., Ramenskiy district, Zhukovsky city Park on Siberian hawthorn (Crataegus sanguinea) 10.10.2017

Judging by the weakly expressed black pattern if then Phyllonorycter oxyacanthae
2 m. o., Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district, pos. Poplar on Siberian hawthorn (Crataegus sanguinea) 17.09.2017
25.10.2017
14.12.2017

According to my Phyllonorycter blancardella

The first message is repeated 3 times and the second message is also repeated 3 times, somehow figured out. 67 photos, and only 27 different ones! Again the server will hang smile.gif
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16.12.2017 7:36, maik

tell me with scoops Stavropol on light Orchard
1. 23.06.2017. L-30mm
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2.05.06.2017 L-30 mm
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3. 23.05.2017. L - 35 mm.
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This post was edited by maik - 12/16/2017 07: 50

16.12.2017 8:11, ярослав

25.07.2017г. on light Orenburg.

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16.12.2017 16:32, RoPro

Who is it from the Adelidae will be able to determine ? Moscow region, July 18.

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16.12.2017 18:08, vidjl

tell me with scoops Stavropol on light Orchard


2. Craniophora pontica
3. Arenostola phragmitidis
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16.12.2017 19:43, vidjl

Who is it from the Adelidae will be able to determine ? Moscow region, July 18.

similar to Nemophora minimella

16.12.2017 20:07, vidjl

25.07.2017г. on light Orenburg.

shabby Laodamia faecella, firewood is very variable, I have almost completely grey
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16.12.2017 20:39, zygaena

Who is it from the Adelidae will be able to determine ? Moscow region, July 18.

Can I add a dot?
Thank you.
Nemophora minimella

16.12.2017 21:05, vidjl

Can I add a dot?
Thank you.
Nemophora minimella

Yes it is.

16.12.2017 21:08, vidjl

tell me with scoops Stavropol on light Orchard

1. Oligia latruncula

16.12.2017 22:27, Alexandr Zhakov

1. Oligia latruncula

Big one for Oligia probably Mesapamea.
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16.12.2017 23:10, vidjl

It is big for Oligia and Mesapamea.

Yes, that's right, I didn't look at the size, then only if Mesapamea secalis, they are all very variable in pattern, nothing else fits.

This post was edited by vidjl - 12/16/2017 23: 21

17.12.2017 2:09, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, that's right, I didn't look at the size, then only if Mesapamea secalis, they are all very variable in pattern, nothing else fits.

Mesapamea does the pattern differ? Only if you know what exactly is flying at a given point, then with a high degree of probability you can tell, and so only up to a certain point.
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17.12.2017 7:34, Dracus

Brazil, Manaus
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17.12.2017 10:49, vidjl

Mesapamea does the pattern differ? Only if you know what exactly is flying at a given point, then with a high degree of probability you can tell, and so only up to a certain point.

I meant that M. secalis is widespread in those parts, and M. secalella (=didyma) is much less common and locally. But it is better to cook of course, if it is available.

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17.12.2017 12:44, vidjl

Brazil, Manaus

1-2. Parides neophilus olivencius (H. Bates, 1861)
3. Dismorphia theucharila fortunata (Lucas, 1854)
5. Protambulyx strigilis(Linnaeus, 1771)
10. Urbanus proteus (Linnaeus, 1758)

This post was edited by vidjl - 17.12.2017 13: 09
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17.12.2017 12:51, Alexandr Zhakov

25.07.2017г. on light Orenburg.

shabby Laodamia faecella, firefly very variable, I have almost completely gray

The butterfly is not shabby. The pattern of the upper wings does not correspond to Laodamia faecella, the lower wings are also different. In Laodamia faecella, the palps are always bent up, here either the angle is the same or they are directed forward (it would be nice if Yaroslav said this).
To Yaroslav: in such photos, it is always advisable to indicate the size, or take photos on graph paper.
"shustov" suggests that it may be Insalebria serraticornella, there is also Insalebria kozhantshikovi, but we do not know its image.
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17.12.2017 12:52, Alexandr Zhakov

 
M. secalis and M. secalella (=didyma) But it is better to cook of course, if it is available.

Very good photos. smile.gif
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17.12.2017 13:51, Kharkovbut

Very good photos. smile.gif
On http://www.lepiforum.de they are almost always like this. smile.gif
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Mesapamea_Secalis
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Mesapamea_Secalella
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17.12.2017 13:55, vidjl

The butterfly is not shabby. The pattern of the upper wings does not correspond to Laodamia faecella, the lower wings are also different. In Laodamia faecella, the palps are always bent up, here either the angle is the same or they are directed forward (it would be nice if Yaroslav said this).
To Yaroslav: it is always advisable to indicate the size on such photos, or take them on a graph paper.
"shustov" suggests that this may be Insalebria serraticornella, there is also Insalebria kozhantshikovi, but we do not know its image.

Insalebria kozhantshikovi for Orenburg is not given, Insalebria serraticornella is similar, Yaroslav in the photo has a purple color of some kind, smile.gifbut it seems like it.

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17.12.2017 13:56, Kharkovbut


10. Urbanus proteus (Linnaeus, 1758)
no.gif Not protheus at all. Urbanus is a large genus with sometimes indistinguishable species. You can't just poke at one of the most common ones (especially since it's guaranteed not to be one).
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17.12.2017 14:07, vidjl

On http://www.lepiforum.de they are almost always like this. smile.gif
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Mesapamea_Secalis
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Mesapamea_Secalella

Yes, I took it from there, it's bad, or do you want to catch me in something?)

17.12.2017 14:08, vidjl

  no.gif Not protheus at all. Urbanus is a large genus with sometimes indistinguishable species. You can't just poke at one of the most common ones (especially since it's guaranteed not to be one).

Help determine if you are an expert as I understand this kind. smile.gif

17.12.2017 14:43, Kharkovbut

Help determine if you are an expert as I understand this kind. smile.gif
I'm not a connoisseur of this kind. smile.gif But the gender is complex, and I just pointed out that you can't throw out definitions like that. It's probably just not possible to determine up to a view from this image. I'll try to take a look at it later-maybe I can say something.
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17.12.2017 15:37, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, I took it from there, it's bad, or do you want to catch me in something?)

Alexander, when they take something to illustrate their post from websites or literature, be sure to indicate where they take it from. So that there would be no misunderstandings later when your post is quoted. I know very well http://www.lepiforum.de and I saw that the quality is not worse than usual there and praised, I was misled by the inscriptions you made. smile.gif.
The same goes for Insalebria serraticornella, but you didn't specify that the top photo is from http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Insale...Serraticornella. and just this photo, somewhat does not fit in with the photo of Yaroslav and the copy that we have.
Insalebria kozhantshikovi is now (2016) found in the Rostov region, Orenburg between the regions for which the species is shown in Blue and the Rostov region, so it is not excluded if it is similar.
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17.12.2017 16:01, Kharkovbut


3. Dismorphia theucharila fortunata (Lucas, 1854)
no.gif This is a nymphalida, from ithomiin, apparently. Mimicry, of course, works - but you can count the legs, because a person is not a bird, right? smile.gif

Colleagues, before you define something without fear and dill, please think about how confident you are in yourself and in your definition.
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17.12.2017 16:11, Kharkovbut

The fathead from Manaus turns out to be Urbanus dorantes - it seems that there is only one species with such an undergarment.
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17.12.2017 17:28, ярослав

The butterfly is not shabby. The pattern of the upper wings does not correspond to Laodamia faecella, the lower wings are also different. In Laodamia faecella, the palps are always bent up, here either the angle is the same or they are directed forward (it would be nice if Yaroslav said this).
To Yaroslav: it is always advisable to indicate the size on such photos, or take them on a graph paper.
"shustov" suggests that this may be Insalebria serraticornella, there is also Insalebria kozhantshikovi, but we do not know its image.

the wingspan is 31 mm,the tentacles are directed forward, and the butterfly color is gray,just Photoshop added a little purple).

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