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24.12.2017 11:37, ярослав

Help with the definition.Orenburg city on light,29.08.2016 span 18 mm.

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24.12.2017 12:02, Alexandr Zhakov

Help with the definition.Orenburg city on light,29.08.2016 span 18 mm.

Same as above. There is only one such view.
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24.12.2017 12:30, ярослав

Same as above. There is only one such view.

or maybe a subspecies of ssp. centralisata?

24.12.2017 12:58, Alexandr Zhakov

or maybe a subspecies of ssp. centralisata?

Such subtleties, I do not know. But there can't be two subspecies at the same point.
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24.12.2017 23:12, MIV

Is the moth Xanthorhoe quadrifasciata correctly identified?
Ocd. Krasnoyarsk. Arrived on light 8.07.17.
Razm. kr. 23mm

картинка: Xanthorhoe_quadrifasciata_23________._________________.___________._________._8.07.17.__leg.__.______..jpg

25.12.2017 10:01, svm2

In my opinion, she, the female, is only more correct than quadrifaSIAata, according to the original description
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25.12.2017 17:25, khymarkiyan

Help determine
04.06.17, Ukraine, Lviv region, Zholkvapicture: P1010690.JPGpicture: P1010711.JPG
20.06.17, Ukraine, Lviv region, Zholkvapicture: P1020045.JPG
05.07.17, Ukraine, Lviv region, Zholkvapicture: P1020146.JPGpicture: P1020691.JPG
29.08.17, Ukraine, Lviv region, Zholkvapicture: P1040729.JPGpicture: P1040876.JPG

25.12.2017 18:56, vidjl

Help me determine

04.06.17-Polyommatus icarus
20.06.17 - Procridinae, maybe Rhagades pruni, I don't know what you have there
05.07.17 - Heodes virgaureae
29.08.17 - Vanessa atalanta
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26.12.2017 8:56, Gans75

Ukraine, Rivne region, May 21.
Melitaea britomartis ?
user posted image

26.12.2017 12:09, vidjl

Ukraine, Rivne region, May 21.
Melitaea britomartis ?

Most likely yes, if you can judge from the picture, but maybe athalia is like that. These two species are best distinguished by their genitals.

This post was edited by vidjl - 12/26/2017 12: 10
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26.12.2017 14:12, vafdog

Ukraine, Rivne region, May 21.
Melitaea britomartis ?



Most likely yes, if you can judge from the picture, but maybe athalia is like that. These two species are best distinguished by their genitals.

and what criteria were used to filter out aurelia?

26.12.2017 16:05, Andrey Ponomarev

Moscow region, Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district, pos. Voynovo gora 26.09.2017 mines on irga possibly Amelanchier ovalis
Phyllonorycter deschkai?
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The post was edited by Gennadich - 26.12.2017 16: 05

26.12.2017 17:22, vidjl

and what criteria were used to filter out aurelia?

You can also add it there, but it is still visually easier to recognize, at least I was not mistaken, I rechecked it with cooking. The general background is lighter, the arc spots between the lines at the bottom of the wings are beige, on the expanded space of the hind wing at the edge, there is no white field at the bottom around the anal angle, and the fringe and border holes between the lines of the pattern are light. Also, it doesn't always work, there are only dark individuals.

26.12.2017 20:04, MIV

In my opinion, she, the female, is only more correct than quadrifaSIAata, according to the original description


Thanks!
Please take a look at my Eupithecia.
All from ocd. Krasnoyarsk.

1. Span of cr. 16mm 25.05.17
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2. Span cr. 17mm 10.07.17
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3. Span cr. 18mm 7.06.17
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27.12.2017 17:21, vafdog

You can also add it there, but it is still visually easier to recognize, at least I was not mistaken, I rechecked it with cooking. The general background is lighter, the arc spots between the lines at the bottom of the wings are beige, on the expanded space of the hind wing at the edge, there is no white field at the bottom around the anal angle, and the fringe and border holes between the lines of the pattern are light. Also, it doesn't always work, there are only dark individuals.

This is divination. Obviously, to determine for sure - only cook.

This post was edited by vafdog - 27.12.2017 17: 52

27.12.2017 21:24, Gans75

28.12.2017 0:29, Пензуит

Please tell me about butterflies, probably Arctiidae. Penza region, July.

1.

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3. Is it Amata nigricornis or Syntomis phegea?

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28.12.2017 1:31, vidjl

This is divination. Obviously, to determine for sure - only cook.

I agree smile.gif

Thanks !!! And if the larvae? M. athalia yet ?


It is better to bring it to the imago, and then cook it, I agree with vafdog, so it will be more reliable. I cooked my first copies of everything, this was already when I was convinced that all the species were found in the region, when a series of each of the species was collected, then I began to experiment visually smile.gif
Here you can see what you can do visually:
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Melitaea_Athalia
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Melitaea_Aurelia
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Melitaea_Britomartis

This post was edited by vidjl - 28.12.2017 01: 38
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28.12.2017 1:54, John-ST

Please tell me about butterflies, probably Arctiidae. Penza region, July.

1.2.3

. Is it Amata nigricornis or Syntomis phegea?


1. Leafhopper Aphelia sp., probably paleana (Hubner, 1793), something I can't figure out with leafhoppers.

2. Eilema complana (Linnaeus, 1758)

3. Syntomis nigricornis (Alpheraky, 1883)
If you do not separate Syntomis from Amata, in any case, nigricornis and phegea will belong to the same genus. I.e., either Syntomis nigricornis and Syntomis phegea, or Amata nigricornis and Amata phegea.
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28.12.2017 2:24, vidjl

Please tell me about butterflies, probably Arctiidae. Penza region, July.


1. Leafhopper Aphelia sp., probably paleana (Hubner, 1793), something I can't figure out with leafhoppers.

1-the leaf wrapper can be Aphelia paleana, or unitana, here a genital analysis is also needed.
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28.12.2017 9:31, Argenta

Hello. Please help me identify the hawk moth.
1) Summer 2016, Far East, Primorsky Krai
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2) Summer 2016, Far East, Khabarovsk Krai
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3) Summer 2016, Far East, Khabarovsk Krai
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28.12.2017 10:21, svm2

  

2. Eilema complana (Linnaeus, 1758)



Are you sure?
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28.12.2017 11:12, Ольга Титова

Please help me with the definition. Sakhalin.

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28.12.2017 12:02, Andrey Bezborodkin

Hello. Please help me identify the hawk moth.


1) Marumba sperchius
2) Ampelophaga rubiginosa
3) Marumba gaschkewitschii carstanjeni
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28.12.2017 12:49, Andrey Bezborodkin

Please help me with the definition. Sakhalin.

The bottom photo looks like Ipimorpha retusa, which is in Europe, which is on Sakhalin, only the background is a little confusing.
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28.12.2017 19:19, MIV

Please help me with the definition. Sakhalin.


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1. Helotropha leucostigma.
2. Similar to Mesapamea secalis, but it does not reach Sakhalin.
3, 4. It is similar to Conistra vaccinii, but it is not blue in Sakhalin, which I do not agree with.
5. Cerastis leucographa.
In the second picture, of course, Ipimorpha retusa.
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28.12.2017 19:47, MIV

Can someone help to deal with Boloria?
Zap. Sayan, Sayansky pereulok district 2.07.03.
Wingspan 29 mm

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I flew in the company of numerous Boloria altaica.
This copy has: span kr. 39 mm

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28.12.2017 19:59, Victor Gazanchidis

Pp

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28.12.2017 20:01, Victor Gazanchidis

I haven't even reached families yet. Columbia

29.12.2017 4:53, vidjl

I haven't even reached families yet. Colombia

Below is a dipper, probably of the genus Chlorhoda.
I found a drawing of her at Seitz, where the species is dissimilis. Now apparently it is called differently, while I don't know exactly how, I didn't find it on the Internet.
In the photo in the lower left corner:

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29.12.2017 10:51, Ольга Титова

Frankly, I don't even know if all of them belong to the genus Apamea (Ochsenheimer, 1816). I assume there are two on the left-Apamea scolopacina (Esper, 1788)? Bottom right-Apamea hampsoni Sugi, 1963? And not at all sure about the remaining one-Apamea commixta (Butler, 1881)?

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29.12.2017 12:10, vidjl

Frankly, I don't even know if all of them belong to the genus Apamea (Ochsenheimer, 1816). I assume there are two on the left-Apamea scolopacina (Esper, 1788)? Bottom right-Apamea hampsoni Sugi, 1963? And not at all sure about the remaining one-Apamea commixta (Butler, 1881)?

According to my code, everything is defined correctly for you. I was a little doubtful about Apamea hampsoni, but it seems that there are no others like this, and all belong to the genus Apamea.
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29.12.2017 12:55, Alexandr Zhakov

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1. Helotropha leucostigma.
2. Similar to Mesapamea secalis, but it does not reach Sakhalin.
3, 4. It is similar to Conistra vaccinii, but it is not blue in Sakhalin, which I do not agree with.
5. Cerastis leucographa.
In the second picture, of course, Ipimorpha retusa.

3. Well, very big doubts about vaccinii,
4. maybe vaccinii,
Although the DV is Blue:
Conistra albipuncta (Leech, 1889)
Conistra ardescens (Butler, 1879)
Conistra castaneofasciata (Motschulsky, [1861]) other
Conistra filipjevi Kononenko, 1978, I haven't seen it, I don't knowsmile.gif
Conistra fletcheri Sugi, 1958
Conistra grisescens Draudt, 1950
and among the remaining 4, there may well be two species that are in the photo and Conistra vaccinii, no need.

This post was edited by Djon - 29.12.2017 12: 57

29.12.2017 13:12, Ольга Титова

Thank you. Anyway, no Conistra species is specified for Sakhalin. We'll figure it out. We'll be careful.
Thanks for Apamea. I didn't waste my time.

29.12.2017 13:37, Victor Gazanchidis

Below is a dipper, probably of the genus Chlorhoda.

Thank you for your valuable information. Don't you have a picture of page 41 of Seitz? There seems to be my client too, but I found only a bad resolution, I can't make out the inscriptions

29.12.2017 13:55, vidjl

Thank you for your valuable information. Don't you have a picture of page 41 of Seitz? It seems that my client is also there, but I only found a bad resolution, I can't make out the inscriptions

Yes, there is, please.

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29.12.2017 14:20, vidjl

I searched for burmeisteri from Figure 41, that's all I found, all shriveled up, and nothing is clear yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paracles_severa.jpg

29.12.2017 14:43, vidjl

  
Conistra filipjevi Kononenko, 1978, I haven't seen it, I don't knowsmile.gif

There is one here, but it's also not the same one.
https://www.zin.ru/Collections/Lepidoptera/...345391971006302

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29.12.2017 14:50, vidjl

It seems similar, at Seitz in general it is very similar, types approximately. We will assume that it is, although described from Argentina and this is Colombia

Yes, it seems to be her. smile.gif
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29.12.2017 15:33, vafdog

Chernihiv region, July, 2014.
What can we say about these 4 copies? For numbering, see the file names.

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