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08.11.2017 7:37, maik

Somewhere these butterflies I have already met in the determinants and go to them can not
Stavropol, forest, light. 07.11.2017 L-40 mm
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08.11.2017 7:48, Bianor

It?
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Colotois_Pennaria
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08.11.2017 8:53, maik

It?
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Colotois_Pennaria

nu duc oni

08.11.2017 10:03, Alexandr Zhakov

9-by my size all impura
10-all pallens
on 11 photos-yes

The 11 photos below are neither ferrago nor Mythimna

http://www.lepiforum.de/bh/personen/egbert...ythimna_m2B.jpg
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08.11.2017 12:35, NicoSander

Please help me with the definition..

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08.11.2017 14:33, Vagabond

Is it possible to determine the type of this Apotomis? Moscow region, Odintsovo district, June 19.

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08.11.2017 14:56, vidjl

The 11 photos below are neither ferrago nor Mythimna


Yes, that's right, it's very battered, it's hard to say, it would be better, and take a closer picture, I can assume Photedes fluxa (Hubner, 1809), the scoop is very variable, although I may be wrong. And it is better to do a genital analysis.

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08.11.2017 15:46, Romanov2000

Dear friends! Please accept my sincere thanks for your help! Especially with the animal from photo 11. Yes, she's terribly battered but you didn't leave her out, thank you! I took a new photo, it probably won't work better, the camera is 16 MP but in a smartphone.

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08.11.2017 16:27, Romanov2000

Photo 12. 1-I don't know the exact numbers, Yenisei Ridge. 2-8.09.16. Tsaritsyno Park.
Photo 13. 1,2,3-04,19,31. 07. 16 4-20.08.16 Tsaritsyno.
Photo 14. All 1.07.16 Tsaritsyno. Subacronicta megacephala ?

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08.11.2017 17:26, Alexandr Zhakov

Dear friends! Please accept my sincere thanks for your help! Especially with the animal from photo 11. Yes, she's terribly battered but you didn't leave her out, thank you! I took a new photo, it probably won't work better, the camera is 16 MP but in a smartphone.

I agree with the previous definition. Photedes fluxa
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08.11.2017 17:36, vidjl

Photo 12. 1-I don't know the exact numbers, Yenisei Ridge. 2-8.09.16. Tsaritsyno Park.
Photo 13. 1,2,3-04,19,31. 07. 16 4-20.08.16 Tsaritsyno.
Photo 14. All 1.07.16 Tsaritsyno. Subacronicta megacephala ?

Photo 12-1-Rhizedra lutosa (Hübner, [1803])
2-Cirrhia ocellaris (Borkhausen, 1792), light form
Photo 13 - all Amphipyra pyramidea (Linnaeus, 1758), there were doubts about the 4th, I thought that Amphipyra berbera (Rungs, 1949), there is still no pyramidea

Photo 14-Yes, all Subacronicta megacephala

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08.11.2017 17:37, Alexandr Zhakov

Photo 12. 1-I don't know the exact numbers, Yenisei Ridge. 2-8.09.16. Tsaritsyno Park.
Photo 13. 1,2,3-04,19,31. 07. 16 4-20.08.16 Tsaritsyno.
Photo 14. All 1.07.16 Tsaritsyno. Subacronicta megacephala ?

12. 1 ? 2 Xanthia ocellaris
13. 1-2 Amphipyra berbera, 3-4 Amphipyra pyramidea
14.Acronicta megacephala
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08.11.2017 17:43, vidjl

12. 1 ? 2 Xanthia ocellaris
13. 1-2 Amphipyra berbera, 3-4 Amphipyra pyramidea
14.Acronicta megacephala


Yes you are right 1-2 in 13 photos still berbera

This post was edited by vidjl - 08.11.2017 17: 44

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09.11.2017 23:35, vidjl

Please help me with the definition..

1 and 2 - fireflies of the Scopariinae subfamily, most likely of the genus Eudonia, hard to distinguish species, need genital analysis, need to be cooked.
3 and 4-leaf wrappers, I assume that the dark form of Epinotia brunnichana (Linnaeus, 1767)

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10.11.2017 0:11, vidjl

Is it possible to determine the type of this Apotomis? Moscow region, Odintsovo district, June 19.

Apotomis sororculana (Zetterstedt 1839)

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10.11.2017 10:30, maik

tell me butterflies Stavropol on light 23.06.17. L-35 mm
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L-33mm
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10.11.2017 10:51, Alexandr Zhakov

tell me butterflies Stavropol on light 23.06.17. L-35 mm
L-33 mm

1. Lenisa geminipuncta
2. Arenostola phragmitidis
3. Epilecta linogrisea
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10.11.2017 14:44, akapaka

Help me determine it.

1. Greece, May, at night. The forewings are greenish with a brown margin and black dots, the hindwings are yellow with a black stripe.

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2. Leningrad region, June, in the rain. The forewings are transparent with gray-brown spots, the hindwings are transparent with edging and spots.

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10.11.2017 14:52, Zheka

Help me determine it.

1. Greece, May, at night. The forewings are greenish with a brown margin and black dots, the hindwings are yellow with a black stripe.

2. Leningrad region, June, in the rain. The forewings are transparent with gray-brown spots, the hindwings are transparent with edging and spots.


1. Ophiusa tirhaca
2. Caddis Fly

10.11.2017 14:54, NicoSander

Caddis fly-Semblis phalaenoides

10.11.2017 14:54, NIKSTER

Help me determine it.

1. Greece, May, at night. The forewings are greenish with a brown margin and black dots, the hindwings are yellow with a black stripe.


1 - Ophiusa tirhaca

10.11.2017 15:20, Romanov2000

Friends, here are the latest photos of what I didn't determine myself.
Photo 15 All 2.07.16. g. 1-3-Acronicta tridens? 4- Acronicta cuspis? 5-6 Аcronicta psi?
Photo 16 Mid-June, Abkhazia. noctua janthe or janthina?
Photo 17 Yenisei ridge approximately 20.08.15 and 24.06.15
Photo 18 Yenisei ridge, 20.08.15 Seems 1 and 2 Xanthia togata 3,4 Xanthia icteritia?

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10.11.2017 17:24, NIKSTER

Friends, here are the latest photos of what I didn't determine myself.
Photo 18 Yenisei ridge, 20.08.15 Seems 1 and 2 Xanthia togata 3,4 Xanthia icteritia?

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10.11.2017 19:48, Romanov2000

  yes.gif

Dear NIKSTER, thank you! I still have a tattoo is not straightened pure yellow with one dot on the front fender. We need to deal with them, and even the Yenisei scoop knock 20. About a year and a half ago, they were handed over to me by the Respected Alexander Kurmaev, it's a pity I didn't meet him personally.

10.11.2017 22:35, vidjl

Friends, here are the latest photos of what I didn't determine myself.
Photo 15 All 2.07.16. g. 1-3-Acronicta tridens? 4- Acronicta cuspis? 5-6 Аcronicta psi?
Photo 16 Mid-June, Abkhazia. noctua janthe or janthina?
Photo 17 Yenisei ridge approximately 20.08.15 and 24.06.15
Photo 18 Yenisei ridge, 20.08.15 Seems 1 and 2 Xanthia togata 3,4 Xanthia icteritia?

Photo 15. In my opinion 1-4 Acronicta cuspis
5-6 Acronicta psi (I may be wrong)
Photo 16. Noctua janthina (BORKHAUSEN, 1792)
Photo 17. 1-Syngrapha interrogationis (LINNAEUS, 1758)
2 - Panchrysia ornata (BREMER, 1864)

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10.11.2017 22:52, vidjl

I still have a tattoo is not straightened pure yellow with one dot on the front fender.

also xanthia icteritia
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11.11.2017 0:00, Romanov2000

also Xanthia icteritia

Alexander, why is there such a big difference even in the Moscow region Xanthia icteritia, is it some kind of shape or? I just don't know.

11.11.2017 0:09, NIKSTER

Alexander, why is there such a big difference even in the Moscow region Xanthia icteritia, is it some kind of shape or? I just don't know.

Yes. Males are different from females.
Females are yellow. And the males are shown in your photo wink.gif
https://www.lepidoptera.eu/show.php?ID=1257&country=RU
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11.11.2017 0:31, Andrey Bezborodkin

Yes. Males are different from females.
Females are yellow. And the males are shown in your photo wink.gif


Yes, just color forms, regardless of the gender of the butterfly
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Xanthia_Icteritia
http://insectamo.ru/hete/98-hete/noctuidae...nthia-icteritia
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11.11.2017 1:21, vidjl

Alexander, why is there such a big difference even in the Moscow region Xanthia icteritia, is it some kind of shape or? I just don't know.

No, these are not forms or subspecies, they are just such a Eurasian polyzonal species, they have a great variability, color variability, from a rather extensive brownish pattern, which sometimes reduces to just one single point in the center of the wing. I have an almost completely brown butterfly in my collection, and they also differ in size, sometimes with a difference of almost a centimeter. It is difficult to name the factors influencing this, as far as I know, they are the same throughout their entire habitat. But the timing of summer has changed slightly, especially in Siberia, almost until the end of October. If this is normal for the Southern regions, then it is new for Siberia.

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11.11.2017 11:27, Andrey Bezborodkin

No, these are not forms or subspecies, they are just such a Eurasian polyzonal species, they have a great variability, color variability, from a rather extensive brownish pattern, which sometimes reduces to just one single point in the center of the wing. I have an almost completely brown butterfly in my collection, and they also differ in size, sometimes with a difference of almost a centimeter. It is difficult to name the factors influencing this, as far as I know, they are the same throughout their entire habitat. But the timing of summer has changed slightly, especially in Siberia, almost until the end of October. If this is normal for the Southern regions, then it is new for Siberia.

The term "shape", as you know, is not considered by the ICZN and does not always have a description and stable features, but you are right, in this case, "color variability" more accurately reflects the essence of this type. And her years are stretched out in the Leningrad region, but it doesn't set in October - it's cold.
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11.11.2017 13:36, vidjl

but it doesn't set in October - it's cold.

Until 2012, there were isolated finds for October, very rare. In the following years, in October, 5-6 butterflies were found. This year, from October 4 to 23, at temperatures from -4 to +5, I flew and found just released, still with soft wings, sitting on the bark of trees and grass along with Conistra vaccinii (of which there are a huge number this year) and Xylena vetusta. I don't understand the factors yet, most likely due to the climate.
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11.11.2017 21:38, niyaz

Pediasia aridella or Agriphila poliellus?
Omsk region, Cherlaksky district, Krasny Oktyabr village, August 17, 2009
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11.11.2017 21:41, niyaz

Crambus pratellus or Crambus lathoniellus?
Moscow region, Sergiev Posad district, Zolotylovo village, June 06-07, 2007, on light.
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11.11.2017 21:43, Vlad Proklov

Pediasia aridella or Agriphila poliellus?
Omsk region, Cherlaksky district, Krasny Oktyabr village, August 17, 2009

Agriphila poliella.
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11.11.2017 21:44, Vlad Proklov

Crambus pratellus or Crambus lathoniellus?
Moscow region, Sergiev Posad district, Zolotylovo village, June 06-07, 2007, on light.

Crambus lathoniellus.
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11.11.2017 22:02, Sklyar

Good afternoon! Please help me with the definition. Up to a supraspecific or generic taxon. Thanks!
Kursk region. Summer.

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11.11.2017 22:31, NIKSTER

Good afternoon! Please help me with the definition. Up to a supraspecific or generic taxon. Thanks!
Kursk region. Summer.

1 - Araschnia levana
2 - Aphantopus hyperantus
3 - Zygaena filipendulae
4 - Autographa gamma
5 - Zygaena lonicerae
6-Think Zygaena viciae

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11.11.2017 22:35, vidjl

Good afternoon! Please help me with the definition. Up to a supraspecific or generic taxon. Thanks!
Kursk region. Summer.

5. Zygaena transalpina ?
6. Zygaena viciae

This post was edited by vidjl - 11.11.2017 22: 36

11.11.2017 22:38, Sklyar

vidjl, NIKSTER, thank you so much! )

This post was edited by Sklyar - 11.11.2017 22: 39

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