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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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13.02.2018 14:14, Andrey Bezborodkin

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13.02.2018 14:16, Andrey Bezborodkin

tell me Abkhazia 07.2017.The road to the Ritsa.


The first one is yes, the second one is conditionally yes.
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13.02.2018 14:31, vidjl

Can you tell me this is Caradrina clavipalpis? Orenburg na svet razmakh 29mm 19.09.2015

Is this Caradrina albina?Orenburg, na svet, 28mm span,4.09.2016

both caradrina albina
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13.02.2018 14:31, vidjl

Hoplodrina octagenaria?Orenburg, na svet, 30mm span, 3.08.2016

Да
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13.02.2018 17:23, Sergey Rybalkin

Please help me identify moths from Kunashir.

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13.02.2018 20:00, Shamil Murtazin

21.07.2017, Ufa, Balcony, on the light.
Please check it out.

1. Carpatolechia decorella?
картинка: IMG_6234_31__Carpatolechia_decorella.jpg

2. Nyctegretis triangulella?
picture: IMG_6243_27__Nyctegretis_triangulella.jpg

3. Dioryctria ?schuetzeella
picture: IMG_6216_39_Dioryctria__schuetzeella.jpg

4. Evergestis extimalis
picture: IMG_6199_45_Evergestis_extimalis.jpg

5. Idaea aversata
picture: IMG_6288_1_Idaea_aversata.jpg

6. Evergestis extimalis
picture: IMG_6199_45_Evergestis_extimalis.jpg

7. Malacosoma neustria
picture: IMG_6211_43_Malacosoma_neustria.jpg

This post was edited by rumpelstiltskin - 02/13/2018 20: 05

13.02.2018 20:13, Konung

Please help me identify moths from Kunashir.

1 - Eustroma aerosa
2 - Gandaritis agnes
3 - Gandaritis evanescens
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13.02.2018 23:43, vidjl

21.07.2017, Ufa, Balcony, on the light.
Please check it out.

1-still Carpatolechia fugitivella
2-Nyctegretis lineana
3-most likely Dioryctria abietella
4-yes
5-yes
6-yes
7-yes
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14.02.2018 12:41, vie.absorbee

Please help me figure it out.
1. Dasypolia templi? 27.09.2009 Leningrad region Vyborg
picture: 27.09.09_Dasypolia_templi.jpg

2. Amphipoea fucosa? 07.08.2010 Pskov region. Is it possible to determine by photo or species in Amphipoea are determined only by genetalia?
picture: 07.08.10_Amphipoea_fucosa.jpg

3. Polia nebulosa? 18.06.2010 Pskov region.
picture: 18.06.10_Polia_nebulosa.jpg

4. Hydraecia micacea? 13.08.2010 Pskov region.
picture: 13.08.10_Hydraecia_micacea.jpg

5,6. Acronicta tridens or Acronicta psi? Or are these species indistinguishable by their appearance?
5. 13.08.2010 Pskov region.
picture: 13.08.10_Acronicta_psi.jpg
6. 01.07.2011 Pskov region.
picture: 01.07.11_Acronicta_psi.jpg

7. Apamea unanimis? 19.07.2016 Pskov region
picture: 19.07.16_Apamea_unanimis.jpg

8. Chersotis cuprea? 22.08.2016 Pskov region.
picture: 22.08.16_Chersotis_cuprea.jpg

9. Amphipyra livida? 03.09.2016 Pskov region, Pustoshka. If this is it, then consider it a stray or local one, otherwise it is not listed in the Sineva catalog for the 4th region?
picture: 03.09.16_Amphipyra_livida.jpg

14.02.2018 14:24, Shamil Murtazin

Please help me figure it out.
9. Amphipyra livida? 03.09.2016 Pskov region, Pustoshka. If this is it, then consider it a stray or local one, otherwise it is not listed in the Sineva catalog for the 4th region?

It is determined by the size. And on the rear fenders. Read here, it may help:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...31#entry1117631
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1583280
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14.02.2018 15:24, vie.absorbee

It is determined by the size. And on the rear fenders. Read here, it may help:
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...31#entry1117631
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1583280

Thanks!
The lower wings are shaped like A. livida, but the size is only 39-40 mm. Plus, it is very confusing that I did not find anywhere in the literature either A. tetra or A. livida for the north-western region.

14.02.2018 15:39, vidjl

Please help me figure it out.

1-yes
2-you need to cook, all 4 species that live in your region are very variable and similar.
3-4-yes
5-6 - both psi, there are differences, all three types, you forgot Acronicta cuspis, (you also have it) can be distinguished.
7-8-yes
9-Amphipyra livida is not tetra, consider yourself lucky smile.gif

This post was edited by vidjl - 02/14/2018 15: 46
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14.02.2018 15:41, vidjl

Thanks!
The lower wings are shaped like A. livida, but the size is only 39-40 mm. Plus, it is very confusing that I did not find anywhere in the literature either A. tetra or A. livida for the north-western region.

A. livida I have 38 mm
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14.02.2018 15:58, vie.absorbee

1-yes
2-you need to cook, all 4 species that live in your region are very variable and similar.
3-4-yes
5-6 - both psi, there are differences, all three types, you forgot Acronicta cuspis, (you also have it) can be distinguished.
7-8-yes
9-Amphipyra livida is not tetra, consider yourself lucky smile.gif

It's clear. Thank you so much! A. cuspis really didn't catch up.
Oh, somehow it is necessary to get to the cooking, and then the plus is still half a box will not be Melitaea athalia / aurelia

14.02.2018 16:45, svm2

It's clear. Thank you so much! A. cuspis really didn't catch up.
Oh, somehow it is necessary to get to the cooking, and then the plus is still half a box will not be Melitaea athalia / aurelia

7-I think you are in a hurry here, look into her brown eyes and it will become clear that this is not Apamea.
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14.02.2018 19:21, Andrey Bezborodkin

Thanks!
The lower wings are shaped like A. livida, but the size is only 39-40 mm. Plus, it is very confusing that I did not find anywhere in the literature either A. tetra or A. livida for the north-western region.

I have already mentioned that if something is not in the Sineva catalog and other sources, it does not mean that it does not fly there. A. livida caught in a village outside the town of Opochka, Pskov region, on September 21 (!) 2014, and there were at least three of them that night. As you can see, not only the point, but also the date can cause surprise.
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14.02.2018 20:58, vidjl

7-I think here you are in a hurry, look into her brown eyes and it becomes clear that this is not Apamea.

Mamestra brassicae smile.gif
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15.02.2018 0:35, Сергей-Д

Hoplodrina octagenaria?Orenburg, na svet, 30mm span, 3.08.2016

Isn't it superstes?

15.02.2018 2:09, vidjl

Isn't it superstes?

In octagenaria, the curved bold line running on the upper wings from the reniform spot is dark and saturated, the general background of the upper wings is darker than in superstes, in superstes the dot pattern of the wing surface is pale, the dots are evenly scattered over the entire wing surface with the highest concentration in the figure, in octagenaria there is a dot filling only along the main pattern and the lower wings have a weak golden hue. The photo shows that the dots are not scattered over the entire wing and the line is not pale, nothing can be said about the shade of the lower wings, all the wavy lines stand out clearly. I preferred H. octagenaria. Although you can cook it for accuracy, there is definitely nothing that will overlap by species. smile.gif
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15.02.2018 8:45, Roman1963

Hello! First of all, I doubt it with arguses. Thank you in advance

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15.02.2018 8:49, vie.absorbee

7-I think here you are in a hurry, look into her brown eyes and it becomes clear that this is not Apamea.

I didn't even know about the eyes. I'll pay attention now. Thanks!

15.02.2018 11:21, Сергей-Д

In octagenaria, the curved bold line running on the upper wings from the reniform spot is dark and saturated, the general background of the upper wings is darker than in superstes, in superstes the dot pattern of the wing surface is pale, the dots are evenly scattered over the entire wing surface with the highest concentration in the figure, in octagenaria there is a dot filling only along the main pattern and the lower wings have a weak golden hue. The photo shows that the dots are not scattered over the entire wing and the line is not pale, nothing can be said about the shade of the lower wings, all the wavy lines stand out clearly. I preferred H. octagenaria. Although you can cook it for accuracy, there is definitely nothing that will overlap by species. smile.gif

confused very light as for a female octogenarian hind wings.

15.02.2018 11:45, Andrey Bezborodkin

Hello! First of all, I doubt it with arguses. Thank you in advance

The first pair is Plebeius subsolanus, the second is argyrognomon. According to the lower female, anything can happen...
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15.02.2018 12:38, vidjl

I didn't even know about the eyes. I'll pay attention now. Thanks!

The eyes don't play any role, and your butterfly doesn't even have them visible) Image hint be careful smile.gif
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15.02.2018 14:02, svm2

The eyes don't play any role, and your butterfly doesn't even have them visible) A visual cue to pay more attention smile.gif

Somehow I still knew that for Hadeninae (or Hadenini in modern terms) one of the good signs is the hairs sticking out of the eyes(at least for our eyes ) or is this no longer the case?.
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15.02.2018 14:35, vidjl

Somehow I still knew that for Hadeninae (or Hadenini in modern terms) one of the good signs is the hairs sticking out of the eyes(at least for ours ) or is this no longer the case?.

It is better to explain this to Vitaly: in the phrase about "brown eyes", he will look for eye color, and not a sign of family. smile.gif You know this, I remembered, those who are not at the amateur level are engaged, and most just compare photos.

This post was edited by vidjl - 02/15/2018 14: 36

15.02.2018 14:43, svm2

And it seems to me that a colleague understood, especially since this has already been mentioned more than once here
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15.02.2018 15:26, Guest

The first pair is Plebeius subsolanus, the second is argyrognomon. According to the lower female, anything can happen...


no.

15.02.2018 15:27, Guest

The first pair is Plebeius subsolanus, the second is argyrognomon. According to the lower female, anything can happen...

The upper one is argus,
the lower female is Amanda.
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15.02.2018 15:58, Andrey Bezborodkin

The upper one is argus,
the lower female is Amanda.

The topmost of the first pair - yes, I agree. And with Amanda, too.
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15.02.2018 22:31, RoPro

Will it be determined ? Found it in the bathroom at home today. Moscow.

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15.02.2018 22:38, Vlad Proklov

Will it be determined ? Found it in the bathroom at home today. Moscow.

Tineola bisselliella
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16.02.2018 11:36, Sergeyy

Help me determine it.
Belarus. Minsk region.

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16.02.2018 14:03, vidjl

Help me determine it.
Belarus. Minsk region.

Presumably Acleris comariana (Lienig & Zeller, 1846)
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Acleris_Comariana
http://uahost.uantwerpen.be/vve/checklists.../Acomariana.htm
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16.02.2018 21:13, MIV

I would really appreciate a hint on this Maculinia.
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, Zanadvorovka. 30.07.2004

picture: _a_ulin___sp.________________.______________._____________._30.07.2004.jpg
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16.02.2018 21:42, maks.malehornov

I would really appreciate a hint on this Maculinia.
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, Zanadvorovka. 30.07.2004

picture: _a_ulin___sp.________________.______________._____________._30.07.2004.jpg
picture: _a_ulin___sp.______________________.______________._____________._30.07.2004.jpg

Maculinea teleius subspecies I don't remember now, I can take a look later.
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16.02.2018 22:05, Andrey Bezborodkin

I would really appreciate a hint on this Maculinia.
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, Zanadvorovka. 30.07.2004


M. teleius, here it is good to compare:
http://motyli.wz.cz/nymphal/lycaenid/phengaris.htm
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16.02.2018 22:26, MIV

M. teleius, here it is good to compare:
http://motyli.wz.cz/nymphal/lycaenid/phengaris.htm


Thank you, Andrey.
I get a female Phengaris teleius euphemia (Staudinger, 1887)

16.02.2018 22:29, MIV

Maculinea teleius subspecies I don't remember now, I can take a look later.


Take a look to be sure, if you don't mind.

16.02.2018 22:57, Andrey Bezborodkin

Thank you, Andrey.
I get a female Phengaris teleius euphemia (Staudinger, 1887)

Well, everywhere this subspecies is given in Primorye. I caught a large female in Gusevka nearby.
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