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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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05.02.2018 20:20, Sergey Rybalkin

It was determined not by me, but by a specialist in Palearctic scoops

05.02.2018 20:22, vidjl

http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/80_Noctuidae/...phipyrinae.html

05.02.2018 21:31, Sergey Rybalkin

http://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbro...ge?taxid=738806

05.02.2018 21:47, Sergey Rybalkin

Most likely, this is still a pyramidea. And so far, no one seems to have caught it here, only in Japan.


We have caught it, but it was not yet known on Kunashir, which will be corrected soon

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05.02.2018 22:37, vidjl

We have caught it, but it was not yet known on Kunashir, which will be corrected soon

Thanks! The information you need! Apparently it was caught in the last 8 years, in 2010 it was not yet known about it in our country, and Sineva is not given.

06.02.2018 9:03, maik

tell me the ocd leaflet. Kislovodsk 07.2017 L-16mm
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06.02.2018 9:52, Alexandr Zhakov

tell me the ocd leaflet. Kislovodsk 07.2017 L-16mm

Instead of answering, flower clicked. smile.gif
Ancylis diminutana
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06.02.2018 14:23, maik

Instead of answering, flower clicked. smile.gif
Ancylis diminutana

Thank you Means I flew to the West Caucasus region

06.02.2018 16:36, Alexandr Zhakov

Thank you So you flew to the West Caucasus region

I didn't even look at the extra ones. smile.gif
For peace of mind, of course, it is better to cook, well, very similar.
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07.02.2018 2:16, vidjl

Thank you So you flew to the West Caucasus region

Yes, this is it, Ancylis diminutana, specially found all the species indicated in Blue for this region, there are no more similar ones.
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07.02.2018 9:06, Roman1963

Dear colleagues! I looked at Tuzov, Etchberger and Lukhtanov. It seems to turn out Eneis Urda. The subspecies in the Sayan Mountains is Albidor, but this specimen is from the Kuznetsk Alatau. Label data in the second photo. Just in case : 27.05.2017 Kuznetsk Alatau, surrounded by rocks, mountain meadow. Only one copy was caught. Dispel your doubts. Thank you in advance

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07.02.2018 18:09, John-ST

Help me determine it.
Small scoops.
12.07.2016
Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny, na svet

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07.02.2018 18:56, Sergey Rybalkin

Dear colleagues! I looked at Tuzov, Etchberger and Lukhtanov. It seems to turn out Eneis Urda. The subspecies in the Sayan Mountains is Albidor, but this specimen is from the Kuznetsk Alatau. Label data in the second photo. Just in case : 27.05.2017 Kuznetsk Alatau, surrounded by rocks, mountain meadow. Only one copy was caught. Dispel your doubts. Thank you in advance

Urda and is
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07.02.2018 21:59, vidjl

Help me determine it.
Small scoops.
12.07.2016
Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny, na svet

Denticucculus pygmina (Haworth, 1809)
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07.02.2018 22:15, Guest

Denticucculus pygmina (Haworth, 1809)

I would say Photedes fluxa
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07.02.2018 22:23, svm2

something log on is missing, this one was me

08.02.2018 0:57, John-ST

This is the first time such a micra came across.
12.07.2016
MO, Railway,
is this Crassa unitella coming to light?
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08.02.2018 1:42, vidjl

I would say Photedes fluxa

I could barely make out the kidney-shaped spots and the pattern of P. fluxa smile.gifOn a quick glance and couldn't tell the difference.

08.02.2018 1:49, John-ST

I could barely make out the kidney-shaped spots and the pattern of P. fluxa smile.gifOn a quick glance and couldn't tell the difference.

I signed them a year ago with Denticucculus pygmina, but they are questionable, they didn't come across them before. And now I'm sitting here sorting it out and it looks like they look like Photedes fluxa, but I haven't seen it before either.

08.02.2018 1:56, vidjl

I signed them a year ago with Denticucculus pygmina, but they are questionable, they didn't come across them before. And now I'm sitting here sorting it out and it looks like they look like Photedes fluxa, but I haven't seen it before either.

Yes, two very similar species.
Moth correctly identified, there is only one such you have Crassa unitella.
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08.02.2018 10:31, Ольга Титова

Please help identify Sypnoides from Sakhalin, August 2016-17.

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08.02.2018 12:03, Asmodei67

Greetings.
I myself was interested in entomology about 35 years ago,when it was more sane to move around, and even at the children's level. Mostly ants (they gave me a microscope).

But by the will of fate, part of the collection of insects got into the stone, there are specimens of my peers and a little older..
I really want to put it in order,but I don't have enough knowledge frown.gif
Therefore, I ask many respected gurus not to be angry with me, because I will pester you with stupid questions.

Please confirm my guesses.
In these photos, Antheraea pernyi ?

Wingspan 125-110mm
As I understand them in Moscow did not catch and brought their pupae.
Or could this happen in Moscow?

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08.02.2018 15:45, vidjl

Please help identify Sypnoides from Sakhalin, August 2016-17.

In my opinion all Sypnoides picta.
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08.02.2018 15:56, vidjl

Greetings.
I myself was interested in entomology about 35 years ago,when it was more sane to move around, and even at the children's level. Mostly ants (they gave me a microscope).

But by the will of fate, part of the collection of insects got into the stone, there are specimens of my peers and a little older..
I really want to put it in order,but I don't have enough knowledge frown.gif
Therefore, I ask many respected gurus not to be angry with me, because I will pester you with stupid questions.

Please confirm my guesses.
In these photos, Antheraea pernyi ?

Wingspan 125-110mm
As I understand them in Moscow did not catch and brought their pupae.
Or could this happen in Moscow?

Yes, but not in Moscow, smile.gifin Russia only in Primorye is found.

08.02.2018 17:09, Asmodei67

vidjl was very grateful.

08.02.2018 17:18, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, but not in Moscow, smile.gifin Russia only in Primorye is found.

Well, here you are not quite right. It should be clarified: "in a wild state."
Information from the Wiki:
They are used in sericulture. The oak silkworm was first bred more than 250 years ago in China. From its cocoons, silk is obtained, which goes to the manufacture of chesuchi. The thread obtained from the cocoon is thick, high-strength, and has a good splendor.
Bred in the USSR since 1937. At the moment, breeding on the territory of the former USSR countries has been stopped as economically impractical.
In ' 65, they could also breed or wind silk in Moscow. smile.gif
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08.02.2018 19:12, vidjl

Well, here you are not quite right. It should be clarified: "in a wild state."
Information from the Wiki:
They are used in sericulture. The oak silkworm was first bred more than 250 years ago in China. From its cocoons, silk is obtained, which goes to the manufacture of chesuchi. The thread obtained from the cocoon is thick, high-strength, and has a good splendor.
Bred in the USSR since 1937. At the moment, breeding on the territory of the former USSR countries has been stopped as economically impractical.
In ' 65, they could also have bred or wound silk in Moscow. smile.gif

Of course, I'm talking about natural habitat, but if I'm talking about breeding, then in our Siberian city you can find fifty tropical speciessmile.gif, you can breed a lot of things, now there are whole farms for breeding tropical and our butterflies. Who buys for a wedding, someone for other celebrations, who just for their collection. Exhibitions of live butterflies are held in our city. smile.gif

08.02.2018 20:31, Alexandr Zhakov

Of course, I'm talking about natural habitat, but if I'm talking about breeding, then in our Siberian city you can find fifty tropical speciessmile.gif, you can breed a lot of things, now there are whole farms for breeding tropical and our butterflies. Who buys for a wedding, someone for other celebrations, who just for their collection. Exhibitions of live butterflies are held in our city. smile.gif

The question was why is Moscow on the labels? Then there was no such thing (1965), there were areas of animal husbandry-sericulture, mulberry and oak silkworms were bred. smile.gif well, accordingly, they were included in the collections.

08.02.2018 21:02, zygaena

and in nature,no one collected it anywhere , including Primorye. Who recorded it in the fauna of the Union - only Lenin knows.

08.02.2018 21:30, Ялкат

Help.I found a caterpillar in the winter in the Odessa region in an acacia tree.I don't know her name or what to feed her.

08.02.2018 21:45, vidjl

Help.I found a caterpillar in the winter in the Odessa region in an acacia tree.I don't know her name or what to feed her.

Upload a photo of your caterpillar? And without seeing how you can tell who it is.

09.02.2018 0:23, Anton Kozyrev

Argynnis paphia?
Saratov region, Volsky district, glade near the forest, July.
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09.02.2018 0:38, vidjl

Argynnis paphia?
Saratov region, Volsky district, glade near the forest, July.

Yes, form valesina.
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09.02.2018 0:55, AVA

and in nature,no one collected it anywhere , including Primorye. Only Lenin knows who put it in the fauna of the union.

Where does the information come from, if not a secret? confused.gif
I could collect dozens of them in the vicinity of the Ussuri Nature Reserve, but I didn't take them as unnecessary. Moreover, the specimens differed in color in the range from yellow to dark ochre. Males tend to be darker.

09.02.2018 1:32, Andrey Bezborodkin

Where does the information come from, if not a secret? confused.gif
I could collect dozens of them in the vicinity of the Ussuri Nature Reserve, but I didn't take them as unnecessary. Moreover, the specimens differed in color in the range from yellow to dark ochre. Males tend to be darker.

You've seen dozens of similar species, A. yamamai. And information from the Annotation. catalog of insects of the Far East, volume 2 Lepidoptera for 2016, pp. 15 and 318, although this was previously known. The species differ mainly in the type of development cycle (pernyi does not fly in autumn) and morphology, although they are almost indistinguishable externally.

09.02.2018 1:38, zygaena

Where does the information come from, if not a secret? confused.gif
I could collect dozens of them in the vicinity of the Ussuri Nature Reserve, but I didn't take them as unnecessary. Moreover, the specimens differed in color in the range from yellow to dark ochre. Males tend to be darker.

Antheraea yamamai - as many as you want throughout the south of the D. V. ,in 91 in Suchan ,I saw worms eating tops in vegetable gardens-they choked,but everything else was already devoured.And yes, all the colors-brought hundreds of our own and native ones from Japan. And we don't have pernyi.By the way, the species is originally spring-pupae overwinter.

09.02.2018 2:48, vidjl

Unfortunately, I didn't catch them myself. I read an article in some issue of "Animal World of the Far East", I don't remember the year, I don't remember the number, if I find it, I'll post it somewhere in the period from 2014 to 2017. They write about the number of species in the reserve "Kedrovaya Pad", that both species are there, Antheraea yamamai is often found, Antheraea pernyi is very rare,but there is.

This post was edited by vidjl - 09.02.2018 02: 51

09.02.2018 11:06, Ольга Титова

Perhaps it is impossible to understand Chasminodes sugii Kononenko, 1981 and Chasminodes albonitens (Bremer, 1861)? Sakhalin, August 16.

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09.02.2018 11:10, Asmodei67

I understand that what I analyze is not of scientific value.
But as an aesthetic collection quite. And for me, it's not a bad way to distract myself from unnecessary thoughts and occupy myself. I ask dear gurus to help, how do I correctly write a label for previous butterflies? Based on the fact that it will be on the wall, but with attempts at science. I will make the label not on the inside of the box, but next to the butterfly. I understand that this question is not in this topic, this is probably better to write to me in PM or on the soap.

And here's the second question. In the photo below, is it Saturnia pavonia ?

The label was only under one butterfly, but can we assume that it applies to both? The butterflies were in the same box, there was nothing else there.
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On the label " Caterpillar caught 23.08 Novo Mikhaylovka Krasnodar Territory. The butterfly was bred in Moscow on 17.5.1965.

09.02.2018 13:43, AVA

You've seen dozens of similar species, A. yamamai. And information from the Annotation. catalog of insects of the Far East, volume 2 Lepidoptera for 2016, pp. 15 and 318, although this was previously known. The species differ mainly in the type of development cycle (pernyi does not fly in autumn) and morphology, although they are almost indistinguishable externally.

Maybe you're right, I'm not a "babtist". But I observed them in June (a smaller number, as, in fact, other butterflies), and in August (then the number was significant).

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