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30.08.2018 19:00, ярослав

more on Agriphila selasella

I agree with you.

30.08.2018 19:11, kiof82

Help us identify the types
of 1. S.Krasnoe, Kharkiv region (Dvurechansky NP) 16.06.2018
2. Gaidary village, Kharkiv region 23.06.2018

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30.08.2018 20:04, Kharkovbut

Help us identify the types
of 1. S.Krasnoe, Kharkiv region (Dvurechansky NP) 16.06.2018
2. Gaidary village, Kharkiv region 23.06.2018
1: Melitaea didyma
2: Plebejus sp.; more precisely-difficult.
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30.08.2018 20:24, kiof82

There's a little bit better...

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30.08.2018 20:39, Kharkovbut

There's a little bit better...
Plebejus ?idas, male. But I can't completely exclude Pl. argyrognomon either. Both types are quite likely there.

What was the biotope?
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30.08.2018 21:01, kiof82

Oh, I mixed up 1 and 2.
Golubyanka on the chalk slopes

30.08.2018 21:56, Kharkovbut

Oh, I got 1 and 2 mixed up.
So Didyma is from Gaidar, and Golubyanka is from Dvurechanskoye?
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31.08.2018 9:02, kiof82

Yes
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31.08.2018 9:16, Kharkovbut

Yes
And in Dvurechansk, both species (idas and argyrognomon) exist and sometimes fly together. You probably have idas, but I won't give you a 100% guarantee. smile.gif
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31.08.2018 22:54, usiaz

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 25: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Pelurga comitata?

This post was edited by usiaz - 31.08.2018 22: 59

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31.08.2018 23:05, usiaz

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 25: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'Longitude
: East. 30°07'sho
tse take?

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31.08.2018 23:07, Vlad Proklov

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 25: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Pelurga comitata?

Yes.

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 25: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'Longitude
: East. 30°07'sho
tse take?

Rivula sericealis
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31.08.2018 23:10, usiaz

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 17: 16: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Can I determine the view from images?

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31.08.2018 23:13, Vlad Proklov

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 17: 16: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Can I determine the view from images?

Xanthorhoe fluctuata
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31.08.2018 23:17, usiaz

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 17: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Please give advice on the type of scoops?

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01.09.2018 3:37, vidjl

Time and place of shooting/fishing: 2018-08-31 21: 17: 00, Ukraine, Vyshgorodsky district, Katyuzhanka village. Household management.
Latitude: North. 50°47'
Longitude: East. 30°07'
Please give advice on the type of scoops?

Anarta trifolii
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01.09.2018 8:49, Nemov

And in Dvurechansk, both species (idas and argyrognomon) exist and sometimes fly together. You probably have idas, but I won't give you a 100% guarantee. smile.gif

Only recently you were praised for criticizing the "definitions", and now you yourself give such a strange conclusion on a completely killed butterfly. Idas and argyrognomon often fly together in the forest steppe and are often distinguishable only by their genitals (or legs, but they are not always preserved). Let them catch and watch these subtle details or give them to specialists.

01.09.2018 9:11, Kharkovbut

Only recently you were praised for criticizing the "definitions", and now you yourself give such a strange conclusion on a completely killed butterfly. Idas and argyrognomon often fly together in the forest steppe and are often distinguishable only by their genitals (or legs, but they are not always preserved). Let them catch and watch these subtle details or give them to specialists.
Dear Nemov,

Duc, ely-paly, and what did I write? I do not give a 100% guaranteed definition: rather idas. This is the last conclusion I dared to make, because 1) you can still see something in the pictures, 2) I have years of personal experience and a couple of dozen cooked specimens specifically at this point, so I know the phenotypes there quite well. From a" foreign " region, I would simply not determine.
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01.09.2018 12:48, Nemov

Kharkovbut, dear, in this photo no signs are visible, and those that are visible are bad. Until last year, idas was not known at all in our northern forest-steppe, but in the past it popped up in one series, and this year in some places it is already 50-50 argyrognomone. And some outwardly indistinguishable - studied Bolshakov.
So in this case, it is better not to guess, but honestly say-catch, cook.

01.09.2018 13:57, Ilia Ustiantcev

I don't know how it is in the Kharkiv region, but the only Pushchinsky argyrognomon I have seen in the Moscow region is just a healthy horse compared to any of the swamp idas in Pestovo.

01.09.2018 20:13, Nemov

Ilya Y, so the marsh, it is smaller and with relatively large spots, and the forest-steppe is different. As subspecies, they appeared in the book of Tuzov et al., and now for some reason they are not distinguished-molecular fetishism? - probably in vain.

01.09.2018 22:35, Александр57

Ryazan region. Pitelinsky district, end of July.
Lacanobia of some kind? suasa ? w-latinum ?

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01.09.2018 22:57, Александр57

Ryazan region. Pitelinsky district, early August.
Both Lasiocampa trifolii ?

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02.09.2018 1:01, vidjl

Ryazan region. Pitelinsky district, end of July.
Lacanobia of some kind? suasa ? w-latinum ?

Lacanobia suasa
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02.09.2018 1:14, vidjl

Ryazan region. Pitelinsky district, early August.
Both Lasiocampa trifolii ?

Yes both, lower ABERRATION
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02.09.2018 6:20, Вячеслав Ушаков

I'm not sure: this is apolo or some other kind. Please specify.

02.09.2018 19:07, RoPro

Tell me, please, is this Autographa gamma or another Autographa ? The white squiggle, in my opinion, is an unusual shape for Autographa gamma. Moscow region, 02.09.2018.

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02.09.2018 19:54, Vlad Proklov

Tell me, please, is this Autographa gamma or another Autographa ? The white squiggle, in my opinion, is an unusual shape for Autographa gamma. Moscow region, 02.09.2018.

Macdunnoughia confusa.
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02.09.2018 20:55, RoPro

Macdunnoughia confusa.

Thank you. smile.gif Taken at Vnukovo railway station.
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03.09.2018 23:35, Алинка

Dear experts, I'm sorry that it's not in the topic, and maybe someone will find the question stupid. Please explain more simply what a taxon means. For example, are Colias aurorina transcaspica and Colias aurorina taurica different taxa, or are only different species taxa?

04.09.2018 11:24, Andrey Bezborodkin

Dear experts, I'm sorry that it's not in the topic, and maybe someone will find the question stupid. Please explain more simply what a taxon means. For example, are Colias aurorina transcaspica and Colias aurorina taurica different taxa, or are only different species taxa?

Well, to put it more simply, the subspecies of the aurorina jaundice that you have listed are, in fact, groups of subordinate taxa consisting of Latin names of different ranks (genus, species, subspecies) and forming a single whole (subspecies of such and such a species C. aurorina). I.e., Colias is a generic taxon, aurorina is a specific taxon. taxon (it is the main taxon, but it is always written in conjunction with the generic taxon to indicate the species). transcaspica is a subspecies taxon. I don't even know how to make it even simpler smile.gif
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04.09.2018 12:36, ярослав

Help with the definition.Orenburg region, on svet,22.08.2018

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04.09.2018 17:01, ярослав

Please help me with the definition.Orenburg region, to the light.29.08.2018

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04.09.2018 22:25, vafdog

Please help me with the definition.Orenburg region, to the light.29.08.2018

Agriphila poliellus
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04.09.2018 23:19, Сергей-Д

Help with the definition.Orenburg region, on svet,22.08.2018

1. Insalebria serraticornella (there is also kozhantshikovi photo of which I did not find).
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05.09.2018 1:07, Алинка

Well, to put it more simply, the subspecies of the aurorina jaundice that you have listed are, in fact, groups of subordinate taxa consisting of Latin names of different ranks (genus, species, subspecies) and forming a single whole (subspecies of such and such a species C. aurorina). I.e., Colias is a generic taxon, aurorina is a specific taxon. taxon (it is the main taxon, but it is always written in conjunction with the generic taxon to indicate the species). transcaspica is a subspecies taxon. I don't even know how to make it easier smile.gif

Thanks!

05.09.2018 9:37, ярослав

Please help me with the definition.Orenburg region, to the light.29.08.2018

Will there be any thoughts on scoops?

05.09.2018 9:49, Alexandr Zhakov

Will there be any thoughts on scoops?

Euxoa smile.gif
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05.09.2018 9:51, Nemov

1. Insalebria serraticornella (there is also kozhantshikovi photo of which I did not find).

You get a deuce. The first ixpert is probably right.

05.09.2018 11:16, ярослав

You get a deuce. The first ixpert is probably right.

Who needs a deuce? And for what? And what does an expert have to do with it?

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