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12.11.2018 23:23, vidjl

I think that these are two different types. Thank you if I hear your opinion. Sakhalin.

Yes, that's right.
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13.11.2018 2:18, cleobis@mail.ru cleobis@mail.ru

Yes, that's right.

2 different ones exactly. Both of them flew to the Leningrad region this year. Strange similarity of faunae.
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13.11.2018 13:49, Sergey Didenko

There are years it has in July in this region, the same year is special, all the dates have moved out due to the weather, so I still tend to believe that this is chamomillae.

And what, in the Chelyabinsk region, chamomillae have two generations? I didn't know. I always found it from the Moscow region to the Volgograd region only in late April or early May. According to what's left of the butterfly, it can certainly be chamomillae, but it can also be several other species that are more suitable for the time of summer.

13.11.2018 16:56, Andrey Bezborodkin

Yes, that's right.

Why isn't the left one, for example, ussuriensis or korbi? I was informed from ZIN that they are practically indistinguishable from triplasia in appearance, especially from the photo.

13.11.2018 17:29, vidjl

And what, in the Chelyabinsk region, chamomillae have two generations? I didn't know. I always found it from the Moscow region to the Volgograd region only in late April or early May. According to what's left of the butterfly, it can certainly be chamomillae, but it can also be several other species that are more suitable for the time of summer.

I myself did not think that the second generation could be, it happens, I collect material on them and other Cuculliinae, it turns out that there is such a thing in the Urals. And judging by the butterfly, it is certainly possible to cook it, for accuracy.

13.11.2018 17:40, vidjl

Why isn't the left one, for example, ussuriensis or korbi? I was informed from ZIN that they are practically indistinguishable from triplasia in appearance, especially from the photo.

Yes, I agree, it is possible that these species, I unfortunately do not have them yet, I have seen korbi in collections, and photos of ussuriensis are available, probably only genital differences.
A. ussuriensis

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14.11.2018 10:20, Ольга Титова

Thank you, Andrey, for your doubts, I expected them.

14.11.2018 10:22, Ольга Титова

Please check that the definition is correct. Please help me determine the upper scoop, Sakhalin, 06.08.2018.

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14.11.2018 13:23, Sergey Didenko

I myself did not think that the second generation could be, it happens, I collect material on them and other Cuculliinae, it turns out that there is such a thing in the Urals. And judging by the butterfly, it is certainly possible to cook it, for accuracy.

By the way, according to the NE of reliable finds of chamomillae east of the Volga,

14.11.2018 22:31, Oleg Nikolsky

Help me determine the micr from the vicinity of Bryansk
, November 3, length 10 .. 15 mm ??
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September 3-9 ?Agriphila tristella
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4.5 June 11 ?Crambus pratella
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June 6-17 ?Crambus-uliginosellus
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7,8 August 22 ?
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9 may 24 acleris ...?
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15.11.2018 0:13, John-ST

Help me determine micr from the vicinity of Bryansk
on May 9-24 acleris ...?
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Pseudeustrotia candidula (Denis & Schiffermuller, 1775)
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15.11.2018 0:23, Vlad Proklov

Help me determine the micr from the vicinity of Bryansk

1, 2-Acleris lipsiana
3, 7, 8-probably all A. tristella
4, 5-yes, C. pratellus.
6-probably C. pascuellus in June.
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15.11.2018 10:57, Sergey Rybalkin

By the way, according to NE, reliable finds of chamomillae east of the Volga do not seem to be listed at all smile.gif

Can I have your version?
The deadline really moved out for almost a month, in the late direction.

15.11.2018 16:53, Andrey Bezborodkin

Please check that the definition is correct. Please help me determine the upper scoop, Sakhalin, 06.08.2018.

The upper one is Mesoligia furuncula, the rest is correct. Confirmed in ZINA.
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15.11.2018 22:12, Ольга Титова

Thank you very much to you and Zin.

16.11.2018 10:31, akulich-sibiria

help with butterflies. okr. Krasnoyarsk Region
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16.11.2018 10:50, Alexandr Zhakov

help with butterflies. okr. Krasnoyarsk Region

Falseuncaria cf. degreyana
Eupoecilia citrinana
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16.11.2018 11:47, Ольга Титова

Imago worn, but met for the first time. I'm trying to determine it with your support. July, Sakhalin. Chytonix albonotata? No other type is given for Sakhalin.

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16.11.2018 17:53, vidjl

By the way, according to NE, reliable finds of chamomillae east of the Volga do not seem to be listed at all smile.gif

There are finds in the Chelyabinsk region, even in two generations. If still not chamomillae, then only shabby C. lucifuga.

16.11.2018 18:44, vidjl

Imago worn, but met for the first time. I'm trying to determine it with your support. July, Sakhalin. Chytonix albonotata? No other type is given for Sakhalin.

Chytonix albonotata yes, and the second seems to be some kind of Drymonia sp., from more similar ones, Drymonia dodonides is given for the region

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16.11.2018 19:18, Grigory Grigoryev

Chytonix albonotata yes, and the second seems to be some kind of Drymonia sp., from more similar ones, Drymonia dodonides is given for the region

I agree that this is Drymonia dodonides.
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17.11.2018 14:17, Sergey Didenko

There are finds in the Chelyabinsk region, even in two generations. If not chamomillae, then only the shabby C. lucifuga.

Can you find out the source of chamomillae finds in the Chelyabinsk region, especially the second generation? The lucifuge option is most likely.

17.11.2018 17:38, IchMan

Please help me identify all of them-Karelia.
05.07.2018-several copies to light - Xestia?
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17.07.2018 - Zanclognatha lunalis?
Unfortunately, it is not visible in the photo. that there is a small area at the base of the antennae with wider segments
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4.07.2018 - ?
картинка: Lacanobia_suasa_or_Apamea_monoglypha_0184.jpg

15.08.16 - Celaena haworthii?
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17.11.2018 18:36, svm2

1-Polia bobycina
3-Lacanobia thalassina
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17.11.2018 19:04, vie.absorbee

Please tell me pyadenits.
09. 07. 2018 Pskov region. Deileptenia ribeata?
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13.05.2018 Pskov region. Ectropis crepuscularia?
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17.11.2018 20:01, svm2

Can you find out the source of chamomillae finds in the Chelyabinsk region, especially the second generation? The lucifuge option is most likely.

Source Noctuidea Sibiricae Part 3

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17.11.2018 21:25, MIV

Confused! Either A. eumedon, or A. artaxerxes.
Krasnoyarsk region, August.

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17.11.2018 21:40, Oleg Nikolsky

Help me identify moths from the vicinity of Bryansk
on May 1 17 ?Macaria alternata
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2 May 26 ?Eupithecia intricata
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3 May 29 ?Eupithecia analoga
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4 July 29 ?Epirrhoe galiata
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5 August 1st ?Xanthorhoe ferrugata
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17.11.2018 21:56, AGG

Confused! Either A. eumedon, or A. artaxerxes.
Krasnoyarsk region, August.

1.
 


amanda
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17.11.2018 22:56, svm2

Help me identify moths from the vicinity of Bryansk

2-не intricata
3-tantillaria
4-Euphyia biangulata
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17.11.2018 23:55, MIV

Amanda


I talked to Amanda redface.gifabout it .
And under #2 still, I think, some kind of Aricia.

18.11.2018 0:38, IchMan

1-Polia bobycina
3-Lacanobia thalassina

Thank you very much, but can you say something about the others?

There are also other Karelian photos - please correct them where they are incorrect:
1. 29.06
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2. 4.07
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3. 6.07 Eupithecia - ?
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4. 28.06
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5. 4.07 - Eucosma cana
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6. 8.07 - Rhopobota ustomaculana
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7. 1.07
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8. 4.07 Crambus lathoniellus
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9. 4.07
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18.11.2018 6:33, AGG

I talked to Amanda redface.gifabout it .
And under No. 2 still, I think, some kind of Aricia.

yes, this is some kind of Aricia (easily checked under a microscope for hairy eyes), but I do not know your fauna, I will not tell you the type of pm. By geography, either A. artaxerxes strandi or A. chinensis, but I don't know it

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18.11.2018 9:09, svm2

Thank you very much, but can you say something about the others?

2-In my opinion still Herminia tarsipennalis
4 -+

boMbycina-missed a letter

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18.11.2018 9:27, Nemov

yes, this is some kind of Aricia (easily checked under a microscope for hairy eyes), but I do not know your fauna, I will not tell you the type of pm. By geography, either A. artaxerxes strandi or A. chinensis, but I don't know it

Common "our" Eumedonia eumedon.
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18.11.2018 9:58, AGG

totally dissimilar
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18.11.2018 10:06, svm2

 

There are also other Karelian photos - please correct where it is incorrect:


1-Epirrhoe alternata
3-Eupithecia abietaria / analoga, I can only distinguish them normally in my hands, the second one is smaller and usually lighter. It is possible by palpi, this is a female-it means that the first one has 1.5 eye diameters, and the second one has more than 2 (according to Mironov)
2-Xanthorhoe quadrifasiata
4-Cepphis advenaria
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18.11.2018 12:04, Andrey Ponomarev

Thank you very much, but can you say something about the others?

There are also other Karelian photos - please correct where it is incorrect:


5. 4.07 - Eucosma cana
picture: Eucosma_cana_0231.jpg

6. 8.07 - Rhopobota ustomaculana
picture: mb_Rhopobota_ustomaculana_DSC_1112.jpg



5 Eucosma hohenwartiana, can Eucosma cana
6 Rhopobota ustomaculana
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18.11.2018 12:10, Oleg Nikolsky

I talked to Amanda redface.gifabout it .
And under No. 2 still, I think, some kind of Aricia.

MIV, for ARICIA AGESTIS / ARTAXERXES, a distinctive feature works well - the location of spots on the underside of the lower wing.
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Images from http://lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Aricia_Artaxerxes
and http://insectamo.ru/component/content/arti...i-lycaenidae-33
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18.11.2018 15:12, IchMan

Please help me understand Zygaena.

According to the Sineva and Co Catalog, only 3 species are known in Karelia: Z. lonicerae, Z. osterodensis, and Z. viciae; Z. exulans (recorded in Fauna europaea) I only saw it on Kola (zap-k "Pasvik"). The first two types don't seem to have any issues? This, in my understanding, is Z. lonicerae
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2.
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3.
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and Z. osterodensis
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8.
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For some reason, there is no Z. trifolii in the Catalog at all – I don't really know how to distinguish it from lonicerae, but it doesn't seem to go that far north?
Isn't that her, by any chance?"
9.
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Regarding Z. viciae, there are suspicions that this is it-smaller, the spots are close together. The wing is rounded, the costal edge is convex (North Ladoga, 16-17. 07)
10.
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11.
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But there are also other photos from the North. Ladoga region (16-18. 07), which I do not undertake to identify unambiguously. Can't it be Z. minos?
12.
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13.
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14.
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And, unfortunately, the photo is not very good – when I saw her, it was starting to rain and I had to find shelter, hastily taking a few shots. This is the eastern shore of Lake Onega, (7.07). Compared to Z. osterodensis, this one is smaller and the spots are fused, the whiskers are longer and with a more pronounced club..?. On purpuralis does not pull? In the Lena region, according to Fauna europaea, it is present (in Sinev – not)
15.
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16.
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I would be grateful to receive qualified explanations.

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