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25.07.2011 15:05, Rafia

Unfortunately, the first one is not her. The fact that the second one is some kind of hawk moth, I have already read, but what and what to offer it as food-that's the question frown.gif

25.07.2011 15:10, Rafia

Hawk moth looks like this one гусеницуhttp://www.danaida.ru/sem9/lipa.htm , only-light green and a horn with a pinkish tinge. Can I try picking linden leaves?
I'm looking for the second one...

This post was edited by Rafia - 25.07.2011 15: 23

25.07.2011 18:00, okoem

Can I try picking linden leaves?

May. But it is better to post a photo here.
If the caterpillar was not found on the plant, then it was probably looking for a place to pupate, it does not need food.
It is better to identify caterpillars on this site http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?Fotouebersichten
There is a separate topic for defining tracks here.

25.07.2011 20:59, Sergey Rybalkin

Tell me, please, which butterfly will come out of this caterpillar? She had already made a cocoon, thick and beige.

25.07.2011 21:04, Sungaya

Tell me, please, which butterfly will come out of this caterpillar? She had already made a cocoon, thick and beige.

Eriogaster lanestris
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26.07.2011 6:12, cherepahovod

Please answer my question.

26.07.2011 18:44, user2112

I found a pupa, but I don't know what kind of insect. Size 4.5-5 cm. Next to it is the larva of a May beetle for comparison. Help me determine it. I found it near Aleksin, Tula region.

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26.07.2011 19:10, Коллекционер

in my opinion, this is a rhino pupa, but really, why do you ask in this topic?

and where did you find it?

This post was edited by Collector - 26.07.2011 19: 11

26.07.2011 21:52, bials

A bit of an offtop. shuffle.gif Just want to share!
On July 25, my son and I went on a photo hunt for butterflies and caterpillars, to our favorite place - the railway line that runs through the forest to the base.
When we saw an umbrella tree with Swallowtail tracks ( 6 pieces!) at the entrance, we decided to calculate how many of them we would find before the end of the route (approximately 1.5 km).
We found as many as 130 pieces!
In general, we met them more often than any other.
But the species is listed in the Red Book of the Moscow region!
Such cases can not fail to please! jump.gif

27.07.2011 10:44, Коллекционер

probably this has something to do with last summer confused.gifwe also have a lot of them this year

27.07.2011 10:48, user2112

in my opinion, this is a rhino pupa, but really, why do you ask in this topic?

and where did you find it?


I found it near Aleksin, Tula region. Maybe the larvae of this beetle, too? I assumed that the larvae of the May beetle (collected for fishing).

It looks like the larvae ate what was inside the pupa.

This post was edited by user2112 - 07/28/2011 13: 04

27.07.2011 11:20, ReAlex

I understand Mimas tiliae
tell me how to grow properly if you don't mind, thank
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27.07.2011 20:33, bials

probably it has something to do with last summer we have a lot of them this year tooconfused.gif

Both with the past and with the present. The heat contributes. Rapeseed whiteflies (Pontia edusa), also a thermophilic species, also fly in abundance both last year and this year. If before 2010 I only met this whitefly once, then last year I removed the full cycle (laying, caterpillar of all generations, pupa and imago)
Even this year, caterpillars of the great Harpy (Cerura vinula L.) and butterflies of the Crested alder (Notodonta dromedarius L.) are abundant.
If earlier we had one or two lamps per week for joy, now every night they sit for a dozen or one and a half.
These are my observations.
What about the others?

27.07.2011 20:44, bials

I understand Mimas tiliae
tell me how to grow properly if you don't mind, thank you
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Personally, we (with my son) took the aquarium to the bottom of which is filled with sand and dry leaves. We put a small jar of rainwater in it, in the lid of which a hole is made in which we insert twigs with leaves of a forage plant (in this case, linden) and place a caterpillar on them. We cover the aquarium from above with a fine mesh (from riders). If necessary, we change the food to fresh.
And if the caterpillar is caught not on the plant, but on the road, then it no longer needs anything except a place for pupation. Then it is simply enough to stick it in the aquarium, it crawls away there the required distance in a circle and begins to build a cocoon, then pupates.
So makar my son and I pupated and bred quite a lot of different butterflies (raznoustykh and bulavoustykh)
We are currently working on pupae of the large Harpy (Cerura vinula L.) and the Tooth-winged Hawk Moth (Proserpinus proserpina Pall.).
In the spring, we are waiting for the "kids". smile.gif

This post was edited by bials - 27.07.2011 20: 51
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27.07.2011 20:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

Notodonta dromedarius L. and I was full a week ago.
edusa/daplidice is "over the roof" everywhere for the second year.
I haven't seen Cerura vinula this year.

27.07.2011 23:48, ReAlex

you don't need to pour sand? will it pupate on the surface somewhere?

28.07.2011 4:51, bials

you don't need to pour sand? will it pupate on the surface somewhere?

Actually, I wrote: "at the bottom of which is filled with sand and dry leaves."
Most hawkmoth pupate in a small pit, where they form a light cocoon.

28.07.2011 18:55, Коллекционер

I found it near Aleksin, Tula region. Maybe the larvae of this beetle, too? I assumed that the larvae of the May beetle (collected for fishing).

It looks like the larvae ate what was inside the pupa.

because of the dirt, it is not clear whose it is

28.07.2011 18:59, Коллекционер

Both with the past and with the present. The heat contributes. Rapeseed whiteflies (Pontia edusa), also a thermophilic species, also fly in abundance both last year and this year. If before 2010 I only met this whitefly once, then last year I removed the full cycle (laying, caterpillar of all generations, pupa and imago)
Even this year, caterpillars of the great Harpy (Cerura vinula L.) and butterflies of the Crested alder (Notodonta dromedarius L.) are abundant.
If earlier we had one or two lamps per week for joy, now every night they sit for a dozen or one and a half.
These are my observations.
What about the others?

Pontia edusa we have this year, too, very much, I walk along the forest, and they fly dozens at every step,
so meyatayu harpy caterpillars to find weep.gifnever came across, maybe who can send?(it is possible to exchange, for example, swallowtail pupae, in the fall there will be ooteki of the common mantis, I can also get ant lion larvae)

This post was edited by Collector - 28.07.2011 19: 00

28.07.2011 21:24, bials

Pontia edusa we have this year, too, very much, I walk along the forest, and they fly dozens at every step,
so meyatayu harpy caterpillars to find weep.gifnever came across, maybe who can send?(it is possible to exchange, for example, swallowtail pupae, in the fall there will be ooteki of the common mantis, I can also get ant lion larvae)

Try to look for harpies on small aspens (no higher than the chest) and on goat willow. We have it exactly on them meets.

30.07.2011 16:30, PWM

Thanks! So I didn't doubt it for nothing. smile.gif And how long to wait for the butterfly to come out? Two weeks?


The anguloptera never emerged from the pupa... frown.gif But a few dozen riders have emerged. smile.gif Released them into the wild.

31.07.2011 12:15, VSB

On the leaves, such larvae in the fighting pose of a snake are quite often found. Does anyone know who it is? Taken in Chelyabinsk on July 31, 2011.

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31.07.2011 12:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

On the leaves, such larvae in the fighting pose of a snake are quite often found. Does anyone know who it is? Taken in Chelyabinsk on July 31, 2011.

Young Cerura vinula Linnaeus, 1758 or not?
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31.07.2011 13:42, VSB

It is quite possible that there are also a lot of adult harpy caterpillars

01.08.2011 17:22, ButterflyGirl

Whose pupa is this? Ukraine, Fedotov Spit.

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01.08.2011 20:02, okoem

Whose pupa is this? Ukraine, Fedotov Spit.

This is a butterfly pupa. smile.gif For a more precise definition, it is useful to indicate the circumstances of the find (where it was found, the biotope, the plant, etc.), photograph the cocoon or what the pupa was found in, and indicate its size.

02.08.2011 11:34, bials

This is a butterfly pupa. smile.gif For a more precise definition, it is useful to indicate the circumstances of the find (where it was found, the biotope, the plant, etc.), photograph the cocoon or what the pupa was found in, and indicate its size.

Or even better, take a picture of it from all angles (this makes it possible to see special signs) and give an enlarged image of the end of the abdomen.
In this case, it is sometimes possible to determine the pupa even up to the species (!)
By the way, this pupa seems to have a tip typical of hawkmoth (unfortunately, the size is not clear).

This post was edited by bials - 02.08.2011 11: 40

02.08.2011 11:50, ButterflyGirl

The chrysalis was found under a willow tree in the sand, probably it fell from the tree or was still in the sand. It is approximately 5 cm long and 2-2.5 cm wide. Here is another photo.

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Ukraine, Fedotov's Spit, 15.07.2011.

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02.08.2011 12:04, vasiliy-feoktistov

No, it doesn't look like a hawk moth. And if the willow tree fell, then presumably the Harpy or Bear Kaia that somehow fell out of the cocoon confused.gif

02.08.2011 12:59, okoem

It is approximately 5 cm long and 2-2.5 cm wide

"About" won't do. You need to measure with a ruler. smile.gif Pupae of this size, in my opinion, only have large hawk moth (but not a hawk moth in the photo).
If under a willow tree, then, theoretically, Stauropus fagi or Cerura vinula, but in appearance something does not look very similar to them. It would be nice to have a bigger and more honorable photo... Like here, for example http://www.ukleps.org/Proms/1995s.jpg.

This post was edited by okoem-02.08.2011 13: 01

04.08.2011 9:56, kut

Help identify these caterpillars. Thanks!

1. Moscow. Moose Island. 3.8.11. On the wet clay bottom of a dry forest stream.
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2. Moscow region. Serpukhov district. Karpova polyana. On the cruciferous. 15.7.11. M. B., Euchloe ausonia?
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3. Moscow region. Mytischinsky district. Moose Island. On nettles, on a clearing in a coniferous forest. 21.7.11.
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04.08.2011 10:17, vasiliy-feoktistov

Help identify these caterpillars. Thanks!

1. Moscow. Moose Island. 3.8.11. On the wet clay bottom of a dry forest stream.

Phalera bucephala (Linnaeus, 1758)
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04.08.2011 22:06, Sungaya

Help identify these caterpillars. Thanks!



2 Euchloe ausonia
3 Polygonia c-album
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05.08.2011 18:35, Antivirus

Hello.
Help us determine the type of caterpillar. Found in the south of the Kirov region, on a path next to a potato field (10 meters away), around quite typical for the middle lane grass: burdocks, quinoa, dandelions, clover, horse sorrel, plantain and so on, and so on..

PS: and is it possible to keep her out of the wild, what to feed, where to put her, how to take care of her?

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05.08.2011 18:55, Victor Titov

Hello.
Help us determine the type of caterpillar. Found in the south of the Kirov region, on a path next to a potato field (10 meters away), around quite typical for the middle lane grass: burdocks, quinoa, dandelions, clover, horse sorrel, plantain and so on, and so on..

PS: and is it possible to keep her out of the wild, what to feed, where to put her, how to take care of her?

Caterpillar of the middle wine hawk moth (Deilephila elpenor). Ivan-tea (kiprei) likes to eat.

05.08.2011 19:03, Antivirus

Caterpillar of the middle wine hawk moth (Deilephila elpenor). Ivan-tea (kiprei) likes to eat.


Thank you very much...

05.08.2011 19:13, Victor Titov

Caterpillar of the middle wine hawk moth (Deilephila elpenor). Ivan-tea (kiprei) likes to eat.

Thank you very much...

By the way, it seems to be ready for pupation. It should now be planted in a garden (at least a relatively spacious jar) with soil, it would immediately burrow and pupate. And wait for the butterfly http://lepidoptera.ru/species/deilephila-elpenor/

05.08.2011 19:20, Antivirus

By the way, it seems to be ready for pupation. It should now be planted in a garden (at least a relatively spacious jar) with soil, it would immediately burrow and pupate. And wait for the butterfly http://lepidoptera.ru/species/deilephila-elpenor/


Why so cruel, in a jar... smile.gif I put her in a pot with ficus (as far as I remember, ficus is called Safari), she crawled under a lump of soil and became quiet..

PS: so I don't have to worry about food for her right now?

05.08.2011 19:28, Victor Titov

Why so cruel, in a jar... smile.gif I put it in a pot with ficus (as far as I remember, ficus is called Safari), it got under a lump of soil and became quiet..
PS: so I don't have to worry about food for her right now?

You don't have to worry about food. But you will water ficus trees, right? And excessive moisture can damage it... That's why we need a separate garden.

05.08.2011 19:42, Antivirus

You don't have to worry about food. But you will water ficus trees, right? And excessive moisture can damage it... That's why we need a separate garden.


Will do.. In the meantime, you need to build a sign like: "Ficus without my consent, do not water! A caterpillar sleeps here"

Here is the caterpillar itself, and here is the same ficus tree... Can she stay there until the day after tomorrow?..

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