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26.10.2012 13:32, Sungaya

Good afternoon. Please help me identify the moth. Sovetsky district of the Kirov region. Pine forest mixed with spruce, birch and deciduous undergrowth. Found on a mushroom basket.) Time of shooting: September 17, 2012. Photos are clickable.



Odontopera bidentata
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26.10.2012 13:38, Sungaya

Sawflies - 4 Species - ???
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Khripan.
Dates in file names

1 - this one has been hanging since last year as undefined in the sub-family. Tenthredininae
3-possibly from the genus Strongylogaster.
2 and 4 - are the plants known ?
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26.10.2012 14:56, Woodmen

Odontopera bidentata

Alexander, thank you.
And what will be the correct Odontop t era bidentata (Google returns Results: approximately 6,050)
or Odontopera bidentata bidentata (Results: approximately 95,500)?

Scoop one-eyed smile.gifBut seriously, is it possible to determine?
Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.
September 17.
I don't remember the plant.

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26.10.2012 15:11, Sungaya

Alexander, thank you.
And what will be the correct Odontop t era bidentata (Google returns Results: approximately 6,050)
or Odontopera bidentata bidentata (Results: approximately 95,500)?

I don't know... shuffle.gif
but I immediately remember: "Our plane will land in Baden-Baden in a few minutes..." smile.gif

Just write Odontopera bidentata, you can't make a mistake smile.gif

26.10.2012 15:27, Sungaya

  
...
Scoop one-eyed smile.gifBut seriously, is it possible to determine?
Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.
September 17.
I don't remember the plant.


In my opinion, Lacanobia oleracea
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26.10.2012 18:01, gumenuk

Sawflies - 5 Species - ???
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Khripan.
The dates in
the Larva file names ended there, then-imago)

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26.10.2012 18:19, Woodmen

A couple more.
This small moth was found quite often today and always on the buds of the cornflower rough (Centaurea scabiosa).
Time of shooting: August 14, 2012, near Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.

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And this small, but plump larva met there and on the same day. I don't remember the plant.

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26.10.2012 20:21, Sungaya

Sawflies - 5 Species - ???
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Khripan.
The dates in
the Larva file names ended there, then-imago)

3,4-Butterfly Achlya flavicornis
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26.10.2012 20:21, Sungaya

A couple more.
This small moth was found quite often today and always on the buds of the cornflower rough (Centaurea scabiosa).
Time of shooting: August 14, 2012, near Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.



And this small, but plump larva met there and on the same day. I don't remember the plant.


moth - Eupithecia sp. It is similar to E. subfuscata. But she's not the only one with a similar appearance, and she's not the only one living on Centaurea either.
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26.10.2012 20:59, Sungaya

There is no bigger one. frown.gif There is also such a photo. The caterpillar was sitting on a cranberry plant, without food. Probably prepared for winter quarters. That was a week ago.

... or to pupate. S. lubricipeda, for example, pupates before wintering (it seems).

27.10.2012 9:17, Woodmen

moth - Eupithecia sp. It is similar to E. subfuscata. But she's not the only one with a similar appearance, and she's not the only one living on Centaurea either.

Thank you, Alexander!
And there are no thoughts on small thick larvae, in which direction to dig?

Here's another goose to eat. Time of shooting: August 19, 2012. I don't remember the plant, because I was shooting on the trail. a day on another sit-down. Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.

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27.10.2012 10:48, Sungaya

Thank you, Alexander!
And there are no thoughts on small thick larvae, in which direction to dig?

It seems to me that we should dig in the direction of Arctiidae. But I won't risk giving you any specific advice.




Here's another goose to eat. Time of shooting: August 19, 2012. I don't remember the plant, because I was shooting on the trail. a day on another sit-down. Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.


and here Trachea atriplicis
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27.10.2012 10:49, okoem

And there are no thoughts on small thick larvae, in which direction to dig?

I think it's some kind of shrunken dead owl or bear that's been hit by a rider.
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27.10.2012 12:21, Sungaya

Sawflies - 2 Species - ???
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Khripan.
Dates in file names

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Are there any other photos of these larvae (such that you can see the plants, and for the first one-a top view)?

27.10.2012 12:45, gumenuk

Taken in a clearing. Similar to Vosbora-Thalictrum

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27.10.2012 13:16, dim-va

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And there are no thoughts on the small fat maggots, in which direction to dig?]

There's no need to dig here. This is a mummified larva, inside which develops some kind of rider, such as Rogas.
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27.10.2012 23:06, Sungaya

Sawyers-4
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Sawflies-5

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Vitaly Ivanovich, are these all real photos or were they transplanted to other (more convenient for shooting) plants?

28.10.2012 7:08, gumenuk

are these all real photos, or were they transplanted to other (more convenient for shooting) plants?
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Everything was shot in nature - without replanting. It looks like they are at the stage of dispersal, in search of a place to pupate. I was also in the fern, which is quite impossible.
Alexander! There will be time take a look at the sawflies ( Hymenoptera, p. 75)

This post was edited by gumenuk - 28.10.2012 08: 55

28.10.2012 18:35, Sungaya

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28.10.2012 19:06, gumenuk

Sungaya
Pictures were taken on a clearing in the immediate vicinity of pine trees (although large and tall).
Maybe they'll just be blown away by the wind from the forage plants?

28.10.2012 19:11, Sungaya

Sungaya
Pictures were taken on a clearing in the immediate vicinity of pine trees (although large and tall).
Maybe they'll just be blown away by the wind from the forage plants?

yes, it can be anything: blown away or a branch broke off or a bird of some kind dropped...
unless there is another view
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29.10.2012 0:11, Gansucha

Ukraine, Rivne region, July 22
Eupithecia nanata ??
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This post was edited by Gansucha - 29.10.2012 00: 12

29.10.2012 13:32, nata1711

confused.gif confused.gif HELP IDENTIFY THE CATERPILLAR!!!! confused.gif confused.gif
Yesterday I went for mushrooms and found such a beauty. I took her home, I want to raise a butterfly, but I don't know what kind of butterfly it is. For reference, it was in a pine forest with a small admixture of deciduous trees near Kiev. It is 5 centimeters long, and in diameter, maybe a little thicker than a simple pencil.
Sorry, the quality of the photo leaves much to be desired (((
Thank you in advance!

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29.10.2012 13:46, Zheka

   confused.gif  confused.gif HELP IDENTIFY THE CATERPILLAR!!!! confused.gif  confused.gif
Yesterday I went for mushrooms and found such a beauty. I took her home, I want to raise a butterfly, but I don't know what kind of butterfly it is. For reference, it was in a pine forest with a small admixture of deciduous trees near Kiev. It is 5 centimeters long, and in diameter, maybe a little thicker than a simple pencil.
Sorry, the quality of the photo leaves much to be desired (((
Thank you in advance!

Raspberry cocoonworm-Macrothylacia rubi

29.10.2012 14:18, nata1711

Raspberry cocoonworm-Macrothylacia rubi

how could he be there?

29.10.2012 14:41, Zheka

how could he be there?

He lived there smile.gifIn general cocoonworm raspberry feeds on various plants and is engaged in various biotopes, including in the forests meets

29.10.2012 15:01, nata1711

He lived there smile.gifIn general, the raspberry cocoonworm feeds on various plants and is engaged in various biotopes, including in forests.


I want to raise this moth. I will be grateful if you can tell me). I put it in a jar, covered it 1/3 with wood (there was an old stump, I scraped it out in a bag) and covered it with gauze. I only know that these caterpillars spend the winter, but when is not known. I thought first to put this jar in the refrigerator, but maybe it's better to go to the balcony?

29.10.2012 15:02, nata1711

He lived there smile.gifIn general, the raspberry cocoonworm feeds on various plants and is engaged in various biotopes, including in forests.

And do I need to feed her now?

29.10.2012 15:32, Zheka

I want to raise this moth. I will be grateful if you can tell me). I put it in a jar, covered it 1/3 with wood (there was an old stump, I scraped it out in a bag) and covered it with gauze. I only know that these caterpillars spend the winter, but when is not known. I thought first to put this jar in the refrigerator, but maybe it's better to go to the balcony?

And do I need to feed her now?

My opinion is that the balcony will be better. The caterpillar really hibernates. I don't know if she still needs to feed or go to winter quarters right now. There are many people on the forum who have experience in breeding this species. Here in this topic there were some details on growing a raspberry cocoonworm http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=199064&st=150
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29.10.2012 17:30, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.

1. Biston betularius? On the bodykit. 2012:08:19
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2. On the umbrella. Struck by someone (a rider?) 2012:08:13
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3. Biston betularius? Found the day before on a birch tree. Also a rider? 2012:08:13
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29.10.2012 20:43, Sungaya

Ukraine, Rivne region, July 22
Eupithecia nanata ??
...

More likely Chloroclystis v-ata
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29.10.2012 21:09, Sungaya

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region.



I'm sorry, but when is the day before? Yesterday? And what does this mean - 2012: 08: 13 ?
A little bit of horror movies:
Zombie tracks
Parasites inside the caterpillar 1
Parasites inside the caterpillar 2
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If it was shot in August, then apart from betularia, there seems to be no one with such an appearance... confusingly, however, the lack of "cones"characteristic of betularia

This post was edited by Sungaya - 29.10.2012 22: 04
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30.10.2012 9:43, Woodmen

Alexander, thank you!

30.10.2012 16:36, Andrey Ponomarev

Alexander, thank you!

Yes, the day before is yesterday. smile.gif
2012: 08: 13 - year: month: date. Copied it from the EXIF snapshot.
As an illustration for the film:
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And the nature of damage to the tracks in my pictures seems to be different. Who are they? confused.gif

Approximately everything will be like this.
This year, many of my caterpillars were infected with riders.
26.07.2012
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30.10.2012 16:53, Sungaya

A few photos of sawflies.
1 m. o., platforma Nerskaya, 30.07.2012, mowed out of grass.
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Presumably Gilpinia variegata, virens, or something close.
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30.10.2012 21:08, Woodmen

Gennadich writes:
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30.10.2012 21:22, Sungaya

A few photos of sawflies.
1 m. o., platforma Nerskaya, 30.07.2012, mowed out of grass.
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Andrey, we need his back view. Do you have any?

01.11.2012 8:23, gumenuk

Squad - ???
Moscow region, Ramenskiy district, Khripan.
Date of recording in the file name

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01.11.2012 10:18, okoem

especially with a rider. But they don't answer my question. wink.gif....

As it seems to me, someone else poked my moths. confused.gif

They give the answer. smile.gif Your spadefuls have been tapped by a rider.
Except for the eggs in the last photo. The eggs on the caterpillar are tahina, as I understand it.
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01.11.2012 10:39, Alexandr Zhakov

  Gennadich writes:
Andrew, thank you! The photos are cool, especially with the rider. But they don't answer my question. wink.gif I still have some of them:
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As it seems to me, someone else poked my moths. confused.gif

These, I think, are also tahini.
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