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Adding other insect orders Lepidoptera in the project

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Peter Khramov, 08.10.2014 0:33

1. Zhuchisty entomologists and / lovers who specialize in other groups of insects like to have functionality that is available on the Lepidoptera for babochkeristov. After the appearance of the section collections - even more so.
2. Many people are passionate about both butterflies and other insects, such as beetles same.
3.Technically and ideologically butterflies on our site does not differ from the same for other naskomym (just the same on the other is not).
4. People who came to Zhuchin or another part of the site can help in babochkeristskoy.
5. Preliminary discussion with the moderators have special disadvantages revealed no idea.
6. The idea: extend to Lepidoptera.pro/Lepidoptera.ru Insecta.pro.

Strongly welcome the opinions and judgments on the issue.

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08.10.2014 18:53, Irina Nikulina

And here thought ...)) I have nothing against zhuchistov site and overall enthusiasm beetles and other little insects!) Itself parallel with butterflies always rented and beetles and other insects. But really I'm afraid that Peter is simply not enough for such volumes of new challenges. It seems to me, yet is not the time. It would be good if in the Lepidoptera.RU has already been cleaned up. But while there is still a lot of unfinished and planned that will require time and effort. I think it is best to do one thing and quality in full, and then you can and attach a new one.

08.10.2014 20:27, Peter Khramov

The fact that all finishing touches that I planned, will operate equally regardless of the number of site types. The only thing that will require significant additional time - a supplement of new taxa. The rest can be poreshat for several full days, I think. Iedealing more in the filling, rather than in the administrative and technical parts.

08.10.2014 20:38, Shamil Murtazin

I am writing a second time - in short BSOD)))
The structure is modular, or what? ..
Ie There are sites with related names, full clones Lepidoptera functional but filling - beetles, spiders ... And there is a big portal Insecta.pro, which brings together all of this. Yes, we must not forget the spiders (bet that it will be one of the most popular "new" sites) and ticks ...And the question arises automatically synchronize changes in functionality, you will need some kind of standard query to combine all of this portal ...
Dreaming something ... can not comment further.

08.10.2014 20:44, Peter Khramov

If offhand, there will be a single site Insecta.pro, which will look about the same as the present Lepidoptera. And this very Lepidoptera include a full complement.There will be not only to individual sites on the force, but not even a single site in English - and English, and Russian versions will be on the same domain, and if possible completely synchronized. Oldest Lepidoptera addresses will automatically redirect to the new address. Spiders and ticks will not. It is only that part of the Insecta.

08.10.2014 21:05, Shamil Murtazin

About spiders in vain.

08.10.2014 22:21, Peter Khramov

Site insect + spider can not be. Maybe site arthropods. But it is possible and to reach the whole of the animal world, one must still somewhere and ottormazhivatsya, I think ...

08.10.2014 22:25, Shamil Murtazin

Just spiders really a lot of people at home in divorce.

08.10.2014 22:40, Peter Khramov

Well Duc and beautiful. People breeders house spider - the audience is completely different site. And on this subject, too, there are some developments which-it is quite possible that this year will have something with my participation. But that is a different format than the Lepidoptera.

09.10.2014 9:23, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Here with butterflies all 10 people involved, and you're on the beetles sights !!!

09.10.2014 12:31, Peter Khramov

That's right, there is a beetle with all 20 will be!

09.10.2014 14:30, Dmitriy Pozhogin

I beetles pass. You can not grasp the immensity.

09.10.2014 14:37, Peter Khramov

That's for sure.

09.10.2014 17:40, Peter Khramov

Additional explanations:
The task - to make the service (set of services) for entomologists. Not a picture book, not a forum or even a catalog, namely a set of services. Under entomologist here refers not only to the stern professor, but also people interested.
Basis around cool service - tree taxa.The initial tree is laid out on a site centrally me and includes more than one million taxa. In this tree, have the right to be errors / typos / obsolescence / glitches. Because the number is very large.The individual branches of the tree are connected curators relevant thematic groups that eliminate errors and make improvements at the level of "their" group.However, if somewhere there is a structured and more accurate infa about his band, the curator can not edit the Old hands on the site, and to ask me to carry out these operations in semi-automatic mode. And then dopilivat manually.As a result, each of the curator (and accordingly, and all users of the site) is always on hand an adequate (as possible) system.
Here - species essays / descriptions of taxa and stuff like that.
With trees connects the service to maintain entomological collections, the exchange of data, etc.
And a gallery of photos.Separately hung individual projects in the field of entomology, for which my strength and my colleagues forces programmers to create specialized software solutions. A typical example - the determinant of a group of taxa.On the side of all this is hung through commenting on anything and everything, plus the extended community with the publication of articles, reports and other.
How will even thought about some common services - is also going to add. But, as described above, the common and not necessarily limited to, more will and individual.The result each person will own customized site is under a "room" with the necessary information filling it. And filling it, he should be able to turn their hands in every way, consider adding new, etc.
In this format with TZAdministration is not very great importance, only the butterfly on the website or all insects. Since mechanisms of the most common, and as for the filling - of course, that the butterflies and stuff will not work unless there is a sufficient number of people in charge and involved. And, sincethis is a set of services, then do not worry, if for some taxa long and generally there is a curator of information on it will not be enough. No goals to close up a complete catalog of insects. There goal is to make all services for a person to bring and use their foreign niformatsiyu site no matter what team he is involved.There was no one for leafhopper, disk imaging, too, was very little for them, was a man went narpravlenie develop. Not appeared - not terrible, the service itself is still suschesvuet and works for other groups.

09.10.2014 21:11, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Many letters.

09.10.2014 22:50, Shamil Murtazin

and the concept of "my room" pre-configured profiles show pictures like a good idea to fit :)

10.10.2014 0:02, Peter Khramov

Yes, there are many that fits. I would like to draw attention to the fact that a person who is engaged in, for example, some thread specific wasps, is not very important to the development on the site of some other taxon. Developed - well, is not developed - perezhivayemost. Ie dependence groups from each other to be uncritical.In general, it seems, turns the project a different direction than Lepidoptera. Later I formulate if we can, at the same time, and also lay the Old Molbiol ...

17.10.2014 20:17, Peter Khramov

Summary: to run in all the services on the Lepidoptera, if all the rules, try with the other taxa. In the meantime, please be sculpting to a distinct state.

17.10.2014 23:00, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yeah, come on .... Especially interesting bugs (particularly long-horned beetles and borers) :)

The mood is playful :)
But seriously, buggy and outdated Mantis already bothered order :(

06.12.2014 15:53, Evgeny Komarov

If Peter believes that the pull of insects in general, as the minmum beetles supported by two hands - yet it is my group in which more than a butterfly that I was more interested in terms of photography. And the family of ground beetles TB So I am for! And there will be more active participants in no doubt.

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