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Kharkovbut, 17.10.2009 18:39

I need to specify the Euphydryas (aurinia) saretensis taxon correctly. It was described by Staudinger, there is no doubt about it. But in what year? In the available literature, there is a complete discrepancy: 1871, 1878, 1879... smile.gifI looked in LepIndex: 1861 (it doesn't get any easier from hour to hour...) rolleyes.gif

Basically, I have two questions:

1) What year is it??? smile.gif

2) How accurate is LepIndex (in general, i.e. are there a lot of points there)?

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07.12.2009 1:08, А.Й.Элез

It first appears in Staudinger in 1861 on page 8 of the catalog (you can download a scan of the catalog by clicking on the first link) without a description (!) as Melitaea artemis v. Sareptana (there is also synonymy and references to sources; references are deciphered at the beginning of the book on the pages of Roman numbering after the preface).

Then, with reference to this edition of 1861 as the source of the original description, she walks through the literature. In 1871, in his own Catalog, Staudinger already refers to his own edition of 1861 (see page 17 of this reprint of the catalog, a scan of the catalog can be downloaded from the second link), but stipulates that the name was given last time without a description; it is already called Melitaea Aurinia Sareptana.

Seitz does not attach the year to the name in the first volume of his catalog of Palaearctic mace-moustaches, but Melitaea aurinia refers to this form specifically to the Staudinger catalog of 1861, naming the form already sareptana Stgr. (=sareptensis Stgr.) – see page 214; a scan of the text part of the first volume of the Seitz catalog can be downloaded from the third link. As for the illustration that Seitz gives, in the Internet version, the illustrative part of Seitz's catalogues is completely useless, so I give here in a compressed form, and in full form I throw a normal scan of the corresponding illustration from the first volume of Seitz on the web (link four). This section, by the way, was written by Seitz himself, and in terms of references to primary descriptions (primary indications), he is very meticulous.

http://books.google.com/books?id=1S9DAAAAY...page&q=&f=false

http://ia310842.us.archive.org/0/items/cat...epido00stau.pdf

http://ia310813.us.archive.org/0/items/die...mette01seit.pdf

http://narod.ru/disk/15720770000/Seitz_vol...pl_065.jpg.html

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 07.12.2009 01: 17

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07.12.2009 12:09, Guest

Yes.

07.12.2009 20:45, Kharkovbut

Dear A. Y., thank you so much for your detailed answer!

There is no sareptana Seitz species. at best, it is a subspecies of avrinia.
OK, let it be a subspecies. Please tell someone who is not experienced in taxonomy: what is the correct name for this subspecies? sareptensis Staudinger? or sareptana? smile.gif or is it nomen nudum, since in fact there was no description?

07.12.2009 21:09, А.Й.Элез

There is no sareptana Seitz species. at best, it is a subspecies of avrinia.
Of course, this is given everywhere as an intraspecific taxon, i.e. below avrinia. There is no question of an independent form anywhere! Especially " Seitz "(he is generally the fifth spoke in the chariot)! I'm only confused about one thing. Where did sareptensis come from instead of sareptana? Who said " uh " first? Seitz refers to Staudinger in terms of form as such, not in terms of grammatical modification – where did it come from? Here you can either pick up all the literature between 1871 and 1909, or spit and write off this grammatical correction to Seitz (along with the real description, by the way...) It is very likely that Staudinger himself introduced this amendment before the Seitz catalog was published. The Staudinger catalog was also reprinted between 1871 and 1909, but these reprints still need to be found and viewed (in particular, something was, in my opinion, for 1898). Somewhere, the description could, in theory, have flickered over these several decades, because Seitz later invented his description and illustration not from a finger or from a bare name... However, he could have limited himself to the named collection material of Staudinger himself and independently made a description and prepared an illustration from this material. In general, the water in the cloud is dark...

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07.12.2009 21:25, А.Й.Элез

And to call it sareptensis Stgr.; to stipulate that the description is clearly late, it would be absolutely correct; and the year will still have to be put, probably, in 1861. Nothing else comes to mind, and this option passes completely regardless of who made the grammatical correction of the name and when.
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