Catching lamp

Theoretically, the scheme is as follows: from the cigarette lighter - an inverter-an ordinary DRL lamp. But in practice, I haven't tried it yet.

This post was edited by Bad Den - 13.07.2006 19: 24

And the inverter?

And the inverter?

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Theoretically, the scheme is as follows: from the cigarette lighter - an inverter-an ordinary DRL lamp. But in practice, I haven't tried it yet.

From the cigarette lighter is not necessary. With an inverter power of 375 W and a DRL-250 lamp with a choke, the wires heat up prohibitively. They even melted down once. So I just put it on the battery terminals. Only fuses sometimes burn in the inverter, so you need to have a spare battery with you. This is the fourth year I've been fishing like this.

There are inverters both from the cigarette lighter and from the battery directly.

PS Now I looked - indeed, inverters designed for high power are connected to the battery terminals...

There are inverters both from the cigarette lighter and from the battery directly.

PS Now I looked - indeed, inverters designed for high power are connected to the battery terminals...

Mine was also originally from a cigarette lighter. Redid it.
The other day koknul flask on DRL. He was tanned to the point of redness, but did not notice a noticeable increase in summer. Who else caught with a broken lamp, share the info.

It depends on where to catch it - if in a locality (where there are other light sources), then the result is noticeable. And if in a deep forest, then probably there is no difference...

I fished with a broken bulb, and in an area where there are quite a few other light sources. So, I caught a lot of things, and the broken bulb flew almost worse than a simple incandescent lamp. It looks like a powerful stream of hard UV just blinds insects, and they sit away from the lamp, do not get close to it. As a result, this bulb is not used at all, and the radiation is harmful, and there is no effect.

What kind of lamp was it? How much power? Maybe it made sense to take a less powerful one?

I had a split DRL (250 W) flying very well (see "Fishing reports"), part of it really landed away from the lamp.

This post was edited by Bad Den - 07/14/2006 14: 24

A bit of theory (unfortunately, there is no practice, please correct me if I made a mistake):
A typical car battery has a capacity of 50-65 Ah
and a motorcycle battery has a capacity of about 10 Ah
(for example, a capacity of 10 AH means that it should produce 1 Amp for 10 hours (or 5 hours-2 amps) while the battery voltage should drop by 10%) I repeat once again - this is in theory and according to GOST standards

If you need to power the DRL-250 , this means that the current consumption when powered through the inverter will be about 20A (250W/12V=20.83 A) (hence the strong heating of small-section wires), then the car battery life is 50AH/20A = 2.5 hours. In practice, this means that in an hour or two you will not start your car, although I admit that some enthusiasts can bring all this to the fishing spot in a backpack.

I will soon try to use this design: an uninterruptible power supply unit for a computer (there is an alkaline battery of 12 volts for 7AH) + an energy-saving lamp of 11 watts. (like it shines like 60W) I tried it at home - it's guaranteed to shine for 3 hours. Then you can try low-power UV lamps.
In general, I'll unsubscribe as soon as I try it out.

Bespereboynikov are lead-acid batteries, as in cars. And they weigh the same amount. By the way, if you have the time and knowledge to understand the theory, then maybe consider this question. The DRL consumption is maximized at the moment of arc ignition, then the current drops sharply, and a choke is used to limit it. So, 250 W is consumed at the moment of arc burning or at the moment of ignition, or 250 W is the "lighting power", as in energy-saving lamps, consumes 11 W, and glows like a 100 W incandescent lamp?
But in general, it seems to me that such low-power fluorescent lamps, namely they are used in energy-saving lamps, will not fly much.

 
If you need to power the DRL-250 , this means that the current consumption when powered through the inverter will be about 20A (250W/12V=20.83 A) (hence the strong heating of small-section wires), then the car battery life is 50AH/20A = 2.5 hours. In practice, this means that in an hour or two you will not start your car, although I admit that some enthusiasts can bring all this to the fishing spot in a backpack.

It's just like that. From a 60 AH battery, the DRL 250 burns for 3-3. 5 hours. But!
First, the inverter has foolproof protection. Turns off when the input voltage drops below 10 volts. This is enough to start the car's engine.
Second, you can continue fishing with the engine running (it takes 15-20 minutes to recharge the battery from the generator).
This is the practice.

The 13th post is mine, I forgot to register. Sorry...

This post was edited by entomolog - 04/15/2007 17: 08

The DRL consumption is maximized at the moment of arc ignition, then the current drops sharply, and a choke is used to limit it. So, 250 W is consumed at the moment of arc burning or at the moment of ignition, or 250 W is the "lighting power", as in energy-saving lamps, consumes 11 W, and glows like a 100 W incandescent lamp?
But in general, it seems to me that such low-power fluorescent lamps, namely they are used in energy-saving lamps, will not fly much.

I have never "communicated" with the DRV, but it seems to me that the choke is not used to limit the current, but to start the lamp, i.e. to create a pulse of increased voltage that starts the lamp. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
By power-usually indicates the power consumed. On energy-saving lamps, the power consumption is also indicated-17 watts.

For low-power or high-power lamps - the question is not entirely correct. You can connect one 250 W lamp or 15 economy lamps of 17 W each (according to the glow of the equiv. 100 W) - as a result, there will be the same 250 W of consumption. But the glow will be equivalent to 15*

update: "Never "communicated" with DRV " should be read "Never communicated with DRL" - a typo came out...

This post was edited by okoem - 04/16/2007 19: 26

It was about the DRL, in the DRV a slightly different topic. Initially, in the DRL burner, gas is heated under a voltage of 220V, after the breakdown of the gas column with a high voltage (here you are absolutely right) due to the induction of the throttle, the same throttle serves to limit the current and voltage, because the DRL in the mode is powered from 130V.
From this ( my non-expert opinion) the power calculation should be made from the current-voltage consumed in the operating mode, but the problem is in the throttle (active + reactive resistance-I do not know them). If someone is savvy in these matters, it would be interesting to hear the exact calculations (in the sense of calculations).
As for low-power lamps-Mr. Valery A. was going to turn on one 11W lamp, I proceeded from his words. But by the way, if you turn on 10 lamps of 25 W, they will eat more, and glow less than one 250 W.

Many thanks for the additions and comments.
I'm just going to buy a DRL and be sure to measure everything (by current and power from start-up to full warm-up), I'll unsubscribe from the results.
As for the use of a small battery + an inverter+an energy-saving lamp, I consider this exclusively as equipment that can be easily dragged in a backpack and of course it will not give such an effect as DRL.

This post was edited by Valery A. - 04/16/2007 15: 13

Dear Valery A. Your experience in this area is very interesting and necessary. The problem is that sleeping with the generator is problematic, I don't sleep, I catch, but my colleagues are sometimes ready to beat me up. So the question is painful, go for it! I, in turn, will try to study the demand for a UV-LED light source.

It was about the DRL, in the DRV a slightly different topic.

I apologize for the typo : - ((, of course I meant the DRL.

"But by the way, if you turn on 10 lamps of 25 watts, they will eat more, and glow less than one 250W"

Can I find out a little more about why this is so?

This post was edited by okoem - 04/16/2007 19: 31

About consumption, theoretically, they should consume the same, in practice, losses in cartridges-connections-cables-temperature costs are imposed. And about the luminosity, it is easier to "focus" one point source than ten, one large lamp is further visible. In more detail, I will try to write later.