Entomological net

may Sila be with you

nets, nets...
traps rule!

It depends for whom.

I identified today that shrub (I examined a specimen with fruits), from the wood of which the handle is made-svidina is either blood-red or southern. Anyone who knows a lot about wood will understand. And who does not know-let them use soft and fragile, but beautiful, duralumin for health.

This post was edited by ENO - 12/14/2017 17: 48

And I have from Phyllostachys sp. "it's beautiful, and it's strong, and it doesn't weigh much. You can fight off the dogs. The lower end is sawn off immediately below the node, the upper end is several cm above the node, and epoxy glue mixed with sawdust is poured into the resulting "glass", and a bolt is inserted into this case (with a thread up, a cap in the glue). When it freezes, the "ears" (or loops, or whatever it is called) of a steel hoop are put on it and tightened with a nut. You can disassemble and assemble it. You can make several hoops with bags for one handle (spare or different sizes for different purposes) or vice versa handles of different lengths (usually I use a meter, but there is also a shortened one that fits in a backpack).

Heh, from such bamboo I also have a handle for a fishing line, the impact strength is certainly high, but as for the weight, this is still a question, IMHO bamboo is heavier with the same breaking strength, and any mount on luminium is much easier to attach.

It depends for whom.

I identified today that shrub (I examined a specimen with fruits), from the wood of which the handle is made-svidina is either blood-red or southern. Anyone who knows a lot about wood will understand. And who does not know-let them use soft and fragile, but beautiful, duralumin for health.

it doesn't matter what material it is made of - the main thing is not to be crooked, you need to admire not the materials or the cost of the product, but the accuracy, quality and (as a result) reliability of the design. And you have taped a piece of rusty wire to a crooked stick (even if it is of a valuable breed), attached a piece of an old curtain to all this, and proudly brag about your product.. I had one when I was 12 years old, although I didn't have svidina at hand, and I still used a duralumin tube, I think it's still intact. Now I just feel pale (sorry-again Penza slang) it would be nice to go with such an aglobley. But this is just my opinion, you catch what you want.

Here's another joke, our language expert "jack of all trades" here mentioned that he owns a factory fishing podsak - this is interesting by the way, I made my podsak back in the 5th grade or something, the handle is bamboo, from those very times, the hoop at first was of course made of rusty wire and the net- grandma's wicker string bag)) Essno that after a couple of years I redid it-put a hoop made of stainless wire and got a net from a fishing cage, but in general the point is that to move here about the fact that "the Russian entomologist does everything himself", but buy a podsak..))

Just from duralumin in normal countries bodies. rods and made to fiberglass, just in the Soviet Union such an exclusive was not carried
And in general, from the very beginning, if not the 1st then the 3rd class, I had a bamboo rod about those very 6 meters, so I know perfectly well how much it weighs, it seems to me that 10m duralumin rolled products with a diameter of 30 mm are easier to lift))

I won't say anything about welding anymore. In short, the mustache is clear

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About five years ago, I made a folding net .
I just bought a mesh bag from a hardware store. The hoop of the steel four is arranged in the shape of a petal, the handle of the old Soviet four-meter fishing rod is the second knee.

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I use it to catch insects and not birds, but there are other devices for collecting apricots, apples and other fruits.

Insects can also be caught in different ways. It is fragile for mowing. I have a similar Soviet fiberglass rod, only slightly longer, even the first knee is hoarse (thin-walled), what can we say about the second. Very strong would be a handle made of monolithic fiberglass, for example, the first knee from budget Chinese rods "Crocodile", but the weight...

I'm not writing for an expert on nets and everything else in the world. More on that later.
They gave me an entomological net for the New Year. I probably wouldn't have bought it myself, not seeing the difference in Chinese podsachki and entomological nets, but the prices are different. Since I had to search for the store myself, I monitored online stores in three countries:
Czech Republic: http://www.entosphinx.cz/en/32-lovecke-potreby
Of Ukraine: http://entomology.com.ua/katalog/polevoe-o...cheskie-sachki/
Of Russia:http://www.entomon.ru/goodsGroup.php?id=3
и
http://naturaliste.ru/catalog/s205
Russian stores had to be rejected immediately. In naturaliste, the nets are only fully equipped (handle, hoop, bag (the cut of which is not suitable for me)) very similar to the Chinese podsachki, at prices higher than entosphinx.
entomon pure entosphinx at prices significantly higher than the Czech Republic and Ukraine.
Between prices in Atalanta (entomology.com.ua) and Entosphinx.cz at first glance, Entomosfinks wins, but when I started to find out the cost of shipping, I was faced with the fact that all prices in Entomosfix are indicated without taxes and VAT, and the amount in the invoice is close to the prices in Atalanta, but the question arises about shipping? in Ukraine, 1.5 CU, and from the Czech Republic much more, eat all the difference in prices and get another +. The only" but", in the Czech Republic, of course, the choice is greater, but what I needed was also in Atalanta.
Therefore, I ordered in Kiev, on the third day after the order, everything was with me. Many thanks to Maxim Leshchenko.
You can endlessly talk about the superiority of homemade products, never holding an entomological net in your hands. Well, what can I say, I've been fishing for almost 40 years, if you don't count the children's help to my father in catching butterflies, this is my net. Yes, I see + and know about -, but that's what the entomology industry has come to over the centuries. Honestly, I feel sorry for the time when I was adapting to podsachki, or looking for the right stick for the food hoop. Or even refused to use the net in difficult hikes because of excess weight. A similar feeling was when Petzl got into my hands after a lot of Chinese head lamps(flashlights). Yes, it is an order of magnitude more expensive than Chinese, and now even more, but this is a THING that has served faithfully for many years. The same can be said about any quality item.
You can drink high-quality vintage wines, you can braga, the effect is the same, the sensations are different.
I wanted to give an example about sexual satisfaction, but I was afraid to offend the wrong people, which someone would take personally.
Separately about the bag. From gauze made only in the USSR, in the old books of the 19th century and then this was not, all from poverty, there is not a single plus, except for cheapness and habit. Only the classic shape without the corner shape. mikra has a habit of hiding in any corner if she finds it, so I sew with a spherical bottom.

It's like the confession of an unrepentant shopaholic elitist! You certainly have a talent for writing. But with this philosophy, the camera on the Watering can will definitely have to be changed.

Did I miss something, and did someone here talk about Marla? Or did you take for it the material of my sacks and Pan Stepovoi's sacks of nets?

Speaking of headlamps, I have a Chinese one with one powerful LED and a focusing lens that has been in use for many years. Powered by three AAA batteries. On alkaline ones, it shines awfully bright one night (fortunately, there is a half-power mode), and one more night is enough not to get screwed up. It is indifferent to atmospheric precipitation. Why pay more? (C).

But about sex I still don't understand what you wanted to say? Extol the elite priestesses of love over the cheap ones? I've tried neither of them, so I can't say anything about that. You see, I'm still not an expert at something

conducted monitoring of online stores in three countries

Alexander, well, if you were silent, you would have kicked me, I would have told you everything in colors:--)
For the sake of boredom, a few edits/comments.

In naturaliste, the nets are only fully equipped

It is not true. What makes you think that?..

(handle, hoop, bag (the cut of which is not suitable for me))

If you mean that they are flat, then Entosfinks is also not suitable. I.e. take only a pen/hoop.

very similar to Chinese podsachki

Handles are similar in appearance, differ in fittings. But still the handles are pretty shitty, Kanesh. Worse than Entosphinx.

at prices higher than entosphinx.

This is another untruth. Once again, I don't know why you think that.

all prices in Entomofix are shown without taxes and VAT

Not something that would be very relevant to me, but for the sake of curiosity:
1. Without any taxes, except VAT (if you have already set "and")?
2. When buying in the EU and delivering to Ukraine, VAT is charged even for ridiculous amounts? It's creepy...

Therefore, I ordered in Kiev, on the third day after the order, everything was with me. Many thanks to Maxim Leshchenko.

And you did the right thing:--)

You can endlessly talk about the superiority of homemade products, never holding an entomological net in your hands.

Keep in mind that the reviews for Sphinx nets are very contradictory, someone catches for 5 years, someone breaks it in less than a month. So be prepared for anything :--)

so I sew with a spherical bottom.

Oh, it would be necessary to fix such a modification, but all that-t hands do not reach. The demand is scanty.

P.S. In January, we will transfer our new nets to the first testers (who go to zabugry). If there are still instances for tests — I'll hang them here and declare...

Alexander, well, if you were silent, you would have kicked me, I would have told you everything in colors:--)
For the sake of boredom, a few edits/comments.

It is not true. What makes you think that?..

Yes, I did not pay attention to the section "Spare parts for nets", I somehow did not consider handles and hoops for spare parts.

all prices are listed as: "22.80 € without taxes." I found somewhere on the site that there are two of them, now I'm too lazy to dig.

VAT is only for EU citizens, but it is tax-free for us.

How much is the shipment?

It's like the confession of an unrepentant shopaholic elitist!

And, tellingly, we are talking about amounts of about ten oiro - wild money, adnaka, you can go broke.

It is interesting, by the way, that the seller also dissuaded me from taking a net in the Naturalist, saying that the connection is flimsy, it breaks; I had to buy Czech again.

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It is interesting, by the way, that the seller also dissuaded me from taking a net in the Naturalist, saying that the connection is flimsy, it breaks; I had to buy Czech again.

If it is possible to take a Czech one — the connection between the handle and the rim is better. How to test new (but also more expensive) options — I'll post info.

How much is the shipment?

It depends on the weight of the parcel, for a 3-kg parcel I pulled something about 20 Euros

 
Folding hoop 30 cm in euro 7.20 Entosfinks, 8.83 Atalanta, 12.11 Entomon, 10.09 Naturalist.
50 cm folding hoop in Euro 8.60 Entosfinks, 10.60 Atalanta, 14.27 Entomon, 11.39 Naturalist.
pen 65-140 euro 22.80 Entosphinx, 28.55 Atalanta, 38.77 Entomon, 12.61, but the handle is different Naturalist.
Where is the untruth?

OK, got it. You compare the prices of spare parts, and I compare the prices of complete nets...

I look forward to.

You will be at the exhibition in March — come on, we will be next to the stage again. By that time, there will already be reviews, and the design will settle down (we are slowly making minor edits).

You will be at the exhibition in March — come on, we will be next to the stage again. By that time, there will already be reviews, and the design will settle down (we are slowly making minor edits).

And what kind of attachment is your new nets supposed to have?
Will it be possible to combine any Czech parts with them?

And what kind of attachment is your new nets supposed to have?
Will it be possible to combine any Czech parts with them?

Several options, including one compatible with Czech ones, plus an option without the possibility of spontaneous unscrewing of the hoop from the stick.

We took several photos at the exhibition (unfortunately, I only had my phone with me). During the week, we'll take more and more decent photos and put them on the site, but for now, we'll have preliminary information and pictures.
General information:
New duralumin nets with compound handles (plus fixed-length handles) and folding hoops (plus fixed ones).

Composite handles: a section to which the hoop is attached + a section with a handle + an arbitrary number of intermediate sections. The lengths of the sections that we are doing now are 40 and 60 cm (we can make any of them to order). See the photo below.
We make handles that are compatible with the hoops of the following fasteners:
- M6 (can be found on nets from the Czech Republic, popular in Russia Entosfinks).
- M8 (can be found on nets from Japan, China, USA).
- Naturaliste mounting with a slot (blocking untwisting during operation).
- Quick-release Naturaliste mount (can be removed/put on the handle in one movement).

Fixed handles — options with the same types of fasteners (there are no photos yet).

Aluminum folding and fixed hoops. Diameter from 30 to 50 cm. We can make any other one to order.

Tubular fixed hoops. Diameter from 30 to 50 cm. We can make any other one to order.

A hoop with a quick-release attachment. Diameter from 30 to 50 cm. We can make any other one to order.

On hoops it is possible to put on usual bags, bags for mowing and water bags of our production, Entosfinks bags and also any other bags for detachable hoops.

Pictures:

General view. The net is a composite handle consisting of three sections of 40 cm each. Folding hoop with a diameter of 40 cm, fastening with a promotion lock. Khaki bag 40 cm (taken against the background of the night screen):


General view. The net is a composite handle consisting of two sections. Entosfinks mowing hoop and bag (M6 mount):


Three sections of a composite handle of 40 cm each, unassembled. You can put together (3x40), you can make two of them (2x40), you can put an arbitrary number of intermediate sections (for example, 5x40), you can combine them in any order with sections of 60 cm, you can use them as a single-section version (1x40), but this will be less convenient than a fixed handle of 40 cm:


Two sections of a composite handle of 60 cm in disassembled form. The usage options are the same as for 40 cm above.


Attachment for hoops at different handles. From left to right: Grooved mount (Untwist lock), M6 screw (Entosfinks compatible), M8 screw:


Folding hoop 40 cm for mounting with unwinding lock:


The same hoop when folded:


Fixed quick-release hoop, can be removed in one movement from the handle, fastening with unwinding lock:

The non-quick-release tube looks the same, only without the nozzle on the tail.

Handles with Naturaliste hoops with lock and Entosfinks (M6, for mowing):

The new field season is coming soon, so I suggest you pay attention to these folding nets:
Hoops - composite (nylon+fiberglass), folding, with a diameter of 40 to 80 cm
Handles-telescopic, carbon composite (or aluminum-cheaper), length in the unfolded state from 1.5 to 11 meters
Bags-synthetic fabric, come complete with a hoop, by default white, but can also be green, red...
Fastening of the hoop to the handle is screw-type. The handle can be locked in the folded state. The nets are very light.

The complete set in the presented photos has a handle of 1.5 m+a hoop of 50 cm+a bag (the net weight is 311 grams). The cost of this service is 3,700 rubles.
The cheapest option-aluminum handle 1.3 meters unfolded+hoop 40 cm+bag - 1600 rub
Video of the folding-unfolding process (yes, Fellini ): https://vk.com/video25069854_456239068
If you are interested, write to the PM, I will give you information about the complete sets and prices.

I have a simple net: a Chinese folding podsak and a net made of gas-I bought it in a fabric store.

Podsak is good because it is cheap and they are everywhere. I.e. in case of breakage or loss of the handle, it is not a problem to replace it.

breakdowns will be very frequent

The new field season is coming soon, so I suggest you pay attention to these folding nets:
Hoops - composite (nylon+fiberglass), folding, with a diameter of 40 to 80 cm
Handles-telescopic, carbon composite (or aluminum-cheaper), length in the unfolded state from 1.5 to 11 meters
Bags-synthetic fabric, come complete with a hoop, by default white, but can also be green, red...
Fastening of the hoop to the handle is screw-type. The handle can be locked in the folded state. The nets are very light.

I have a net of this design, while I used a little only in the Urals last year, I am completely satisfied as an amateur, especially the compactness and weight. I only have a more budget version, with an aluminum handle. For the test, before sending, the seller stuffed the cat into the meshchok (5-6 kg) and lifted it by the handle, everything withstood))

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For the test, before sending, the seller stuffed the cat into the meshchok (5-6 kg) and lifted it by the handle, everything withstood))

The cat doesn't approve
https://www.instagram.com/p/Budp6JnndZ3/?ut...ton_share_sheet

breakdowns will be very frequent

Enough for the season. Or even two.

The new field season is coming soon, so I suggest you pay attention to these folding nets:

Well, I checked this net in the field. For more than two weeks, I actively caught stinging hymenoptera all over the Crimea.
If anyone does not know, these eardrums are very fond of visiting the flowers of various prickly plants - tartar, thistles, bodyaks...
The net passed the test with honor, there was no damage, even the fabric of the bag on the thorns was not torn.
It is quite suitable for catching webs and flies on the ground and on flowers.

Good afternoon!
I offer an entomological net made in Japan (Shiga). The one that adds up to the "eight".
The diameter of the hoop in working condition is 50 cm, when folded it is slightly less than 20 cm.
The handle is aluminum, 4 sections (can be extended to any length), the maximum length of the handle is 150 cm.
The price is 5500 rubles, including delivery.

The price is 5500 rubles, including delivery.

Are there any guarantees that the net will be sent?

Very good, and unfortunately, for online purchases, a relevant question!
What kind of guarantees do you need?
I can send it by cash on delivery, but this method does not guarantee protection against fraud (a colleague at work received waste paper instead of a quadrocopter, and until you pay for the parcel, no one will open it).