Entomological net

You'll only get tormented by Entosphinx, because their screw is very long...

I use gauze for life. And homemade nets (under my hand).
And "gauze-it is also gauze in Africa" when it would not be sold.
From gauze, after all, not for mowing a net, but for catching "in years" for the most part, and here the lightness of the bag and its sailability are of great importance (these properties are just gauze and provides).

Imho, the gauze bag is disposable.At any touch, for example, raspberry bushes will have a big hole, and there is nothing to fix it on the spot.Clawed animals will also suffer-the animal is in the stain-and the claws are still in the bag...

You'll only get tormented by Entosphinx, because their screw is very long...

Long, that's okay. If you swing the net, it is unscrewed independently, since the blows fall on the hoop. If you tighten the screw at full power, the structure collapses and falls off.

Recipe net-stick carbon fiber from the fishing hook, any length, the hoop is also from the hook, you remove the fishing bag and make your own-to choose from-what you need.A year or two of intensive operation it can withstand-then you repair chevo nada....

Long, that's okay. If you swing the net, it is unscrewed independently, since the blows fall on the hoop. If you tighten the screw at full power, the structure collapses and falls off.

A. Well, this is due to the fact that metal to metal (even worse — metal to painted metal). In our right now, at the end of both the rim and the stick, it is in the place of lapping that plastic is used-hard, but at the same time well lapped. As a result, there is no torsion in circular motion.
Well, the bags, of course, do not tear.
Although for fans there are also easier, gauze options too.

This post was edited by Asar - 15.09.2015 11: 29

Somewhere I saw a pipe that is put on the top of the handle and tightened by two lambs on it. In the upper part of the tube, there are slots through which the hoop arcs pass and which do not allow these arcs to unfold. Plus, they additionally strengthen the head.
And here's another question, do duralumin handles have plastic segment mounts? Collapses quickly?

How to work with a gauze or muslin net, I have no idea at all. If only you darn it after every twig or twig.

In our right now, at the end of both the rim and the stick, it is in the place of lapping that plastic is used-hard, but at the same time well lapped. As a result, there is no torsion in circular motion.

Plastic, is this such a design?
http://naturaliste.ru/catalog/2053
In the field, they fall apart before they reach the second day. Just unrecoverably crumble to pieces.

In the field, they fall apart before they reach the second day. Just unrecoverably crumble to pieces.

If you took a similar version in Entomon about 5 years ago, then there are other fasteners here (today we are just planning to compare them with those). We haven't tested them by year yet, because they just appeared not so long ago, but we've tested them more than once for a week or two in a row. Nothing fell apart. However, there are also alternative options.
On the other hand, the people are also breaking Entosfin sticks, and what kind of sticks they don't break...

We met Nikita, looked at/checked the old stick, everything is correct — our current ones are not the same, although they look similar. During the week, we plan to choose the time and give them such a rich stress test, so that's for sure. We will publish the results.

You can do without a key. Just crack the nuts and that's it.


Here here all manufacturing technology.

Yes, I forgot, if you can also throw off this link, please-it is also non-working

Yes, I forgot, if you can also throw off this link, please-it is also not working

I sent a copy of the text to e-mail:

Not an option at all. If you just remove all the plastic and glue all the parts into a single structure, because otherwise this net will fall apart at the first sharp swing.

I don't know. I use it for mowing - quite normal. And so that the nut with plastic does not fly out of the handle - I fix it with a yoke.


Here they wrote that such hoops are flimsy. I don't complain about my own, but I have another problem: sticks are often lost. Right now it's already the 4th yuzayu.

Not an option at all. If you just remove all the plastic and glue all the parts into a single structure, because otherwise this net will fall apart at the first sharp swing.

I've been using it for years, and they're still alive. )

Tell me, please, the magic formula for the dependence of the depth of the bag on the diameter of the net.

Tell me, please, the magic formula for the dependence of the depth of the bag on the diameter of the net.

something like this

net depth = two hoop diameters + 10-20cm

need a hoop for a net 50 cm in diameter, Ento Sphinx, help to buy-no nigde

Question:
Of all the butterfly nets currently available on the Internet, which ones have the most reliable handle, convenient in fixing the position, the quality of the shackle, fastening???
preferably in terms of price and quality

https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/free-shippin...mStoreLevelAB=1

What do you think, dear friends, is a fairly strong design? is it junk?

If it corresponds to the purpose - catching shrimp (I caught it) - it should be quite strong and very resistant to corrosion. However, given "pure China", there are doubts.

Everything that is used for fish, you will not use for its intended purpose, hence the reliability is low. The more moving parts there are, the more likely they are to break. I looked at the prices on Aliexpress, they are twice as high as the market price. For many years I use the simplest Chinese nets, they break periodically, then the nut on the handle, then the fastening at the rim, on average 1 time in 3-4 years, and then probably less often. price the quality is excellent. The most reliable ones are not collapsible nets, a troika of wire and on a wooden handle. Good, 30 cm., which were sold in visual aids, they were dressed on any stick.

Everything that is used for fish, you will not use for its intended purpose, hence the reliability is low. The more moving parts there are, the more likely they are to break. I looked at the prices on Aliexpress, they are twice as high as the market price. For many years I use the simplest Chinese nets, they break periodically, then the nut on the handle, then the fastening at the rim, on average 1 time in 3-4 years, and then probably less often. price the quality is excellent. The most reliable ones are not collapsible nets, a troika of wire and on a wooden handle. Good, 30 cm., which were sold in visual aids, they were dressed on any stick.

here is the same trouble breaks the rim mount, did not find a way to deal with it?

Everything that is used for fish, you will not use for its intended purpose, hence the reliability is low.

And everything that is made for butterflies is simply impossible to buy from us. The nets sold in online stores are all fishing nets, and they are flimsy, like refined sugar. On the other hand, the Soviet podsak has served me faithfully for twenty years:

And I mean the same thing, the simpler, the more reliable. No one expects them to be waved like dArtagnan and the Three Musketeers with their rapiers. there they were brought under the fish, so that it would not go with a special boat hook into the boat or onto the shore.

Fixing the rim by spot welding in car repair shops (but I didn't do it myself), if the thread turns in the handle, I don't know, everything is temporary and not reliable, it's cheaper to buy a new one. They are less than $ 10

So according to the link, judging by the stated, not a podsak, but a net for catching shrimp. In fact, this is the same as an entomological net for catching in water. If anyone else remembers about this one, they should know that the requirements for its strength are completely higher than for a net for catching in the air. And shrimps, compared to freshwater arthropods, are very nimble creatures, so to catch them, sometimes you still need to wave vigorously, overcoming the resistance of water. Plus regular bumps on very hard objects. From my own experience, I will say that the strength of the net required for this is quite enough for any type of insect catching, including mowing, the net will only have to be changed. But the opposite is not true: an ordinary mid-air fishing net will quickly die when catching shrimp. However, here the factor of the famous Chinese quality comes into play, which often does not even come close to the minimum sufficient for the stated purposes. Indeed, the thin telescopic handle in the photo looks very doubtful. If it's duralumin, then sushi paddles. But who knows, maybe there is a titan for such crazy money for Aliexpress?

here is the same trouble breaks the rim mount, did not find a way to deal with it?

In his first seasons, he used fishing nets . It was enough for a maximum of a month. I bought it three times, and then I gave up on it. Aluminum turned out to be very unreliable in all its respects. The solution is simple: make a normal handle, a rim mount, and replace the mesh with a more entomological one . That is, to do everything with your own hands. Or you can buy sak in a specialized store, but their prices are usually high.

In his first seasons, he used fishing nets . It was enough for a maximum of a month. I bought it three times, and then I gave up on it. Aluminum turned out to be very unreliable in all its respects. The solution is simple: make a normal handle, a rim mount, and replace the mesh with a more entomological one . That is, to do everything with your own hands. Or you can buy sac in a specialty store, but their prices are usually high.

I have just the same net in all plans was good and the entomological net there, but three years later, I accidentally hit a boulder in the grass with the rim while catching a swallowtail and the fastening on the rim broke.

Which one, for example?

http://entomology.com.ua/

Which one, for example?

Primary source:
http://www.entosphinx.cz/en/duralove-hole-...elka-50-cm.html

The rake dance continues...

I looked at the nets in that shop - a nightmare and horror. Hoops folding exactly the same as in my Chinese podsak for 50 UAH. There are no complaints about its strength, carp can withstand 5 kilograms calmly. But pay attention to the suggested handles: they are very likely to crack on impact, and the attachment point will be turned out. Duralumin is not suitable for shock dynamic loads, thin-walled telescopic tube made of fiberglass-too. None of the handles presented there can be compared in strength with a stick made of good wood. Catch in the air, carefully avoiding a raid even on a bush - that's the fate of local nets. Or break down. What is noteworthy, the mowing nets they have come with a completely different attachment point providing for putting on a good old stick, which seems to hint. But only with such a net as they have, mowing will be inconvenient (unless you are interested in objects less than 1 mm), the inner net will probably break quickly, since with this method of fishing, in fact, the load from the inside is not much less than from the outside. The usual nylon curtain rules, enough for 1 - 2 years of active mowing, interspersed with fruit picking. The "bark insect net" is basically similar to the second type of folding net that I have had the pleasure of using. That's just the podsak that is brought to the "combat position" in one movement, and nothing to screw-unscrew is not necessary. But there are doubts that the elastic band will fit snugly to the bark, especially at a considerable height. Doubts are based on the unsuccessful experience of catching that type of crawfish with a hook (there was a bottom instead of a tree). In addition, the rubber tube from time to time burst at the ends and had to be reshuffled, reducing the width of the net. And in the design that is on the site, this will be problematic to do, because the width is fixed. An ordinary homemade podsak with a hoop made of not too rigid steel wire copes with such tasks with a bang, just bend its hoop in accordance with the shape of a particular tree, and then straighten it back, and it will be round again. In general, self-made cars rule in all respects: stronger, more convenient, more versatile. Think about the tricky purchase net, perhaps worth it, only in the case of frequent travel by air, although even there it is fashionable to do it yourself: carry only a hoop with a bag, and pick up a stick from local materials.

This post was edited by ENO-08.12.2017 16: 57

The rake dance continues...

I looked at the nets in that shop - a nightmare and horror. Hoops folding exactly the same as in my Chinese podsak for 50 UAH. There are no complaints about its strength, carp can withstand 5 kilograms calmly. But pay attention to the suggested handles: they are very likely to crack on impact, and the attachment point will be turned out. Duralumin is not suitable for shock dynamic loads, thin-walled telescopic tube made of fiberglass-too. None of the handles presented there can be compared in strength with a stick made of good wood. Catch in the air, carefully avoiding a raid even on a bush - that's the fate of local nets. Or break down. What is noteworthy, the mowing nets they have come with a completely different attachment point providing for putting on a good old stick, which seems to hint. But only with such a net as they have, mowing will be inconvenient (unless you are interested in objects less than 1 mm), the inner net will probably break quickly, since with this method of fishing, in fact, the load from the inside is not much less than from the outside. The usual nylon curtain rules, enough for 1 - 2 years of active mowing, interspersed with fruit picking. The "bark insect net" is basically similar to the second type of folding net that I have had the pleasure of using. That's just the podsak that is brought to the "combat position" in one movement, and nothing to screw-unscrew is not necessary. But there are doubts that the elastic band will fit snugly to the bark, especially at a considerable height. Doubts are based on the unsuccessful experience of catching that type of crawfish with a hook (there was a bottom instead of a tree). In addition, the rubber tube from time to time burst at the ends and had to be reshuffled, reducing the width of the net. And in the design that is on the site, this will be problematic to do, because the width is fixed. An ordinary homemade podsak with a hoop made of not too rigid steel wire copes with such tasks with a bang, just bend its hoop in accordance with the shape of a particular tree, and then straighten it back, and it will be round again. In general, self-made cars rule in all respects: stronger, more convenient, more versatile. Think about the tricky purchase net, perhaps worth it, only in the case of frequent travel by air, although even there it is fashionable to do it yourself: carry only a hoop with a bag, and pick up a stick from local materials.

And this one has a rake dance of a different, much more serious kind.

I have just the same net in all plans was good and the entomological net there, but three years later, I accidentally hit a boulder in the grass with the rim while catching a swallowtail and the fastening on the rim broke.

Apply welding and just do it

The rake dance continues...

I looked at the nets in that shop - a nightmare and horror. Hoops folding exactly the same as in my Chinese podsak for 50 UAH. There are no complaints about its strength, carp can withstand 5 kilograms calmly. But pay attention to the suggested handles: they are very likely to crack on impact, and the attachment point will be turned out. Duralumin is not suitable for shock dynamic loads, thin-walled telescopic tube made of fiberglass-too. None of the handles presented there can be compared in strength with a stick made of good wood. Catch in the air, carefully avoiding a raid even on a bush - that's the fate of local nets. Or break down. What is noteworthy, the mowing nets they have come with a completely different attachment point providing for putting on a good old stick, which seems to hint. But only with such a net as they have, mowing will be inconvenient (unless you are interested in objects less than 1 mm), the inner net will probably break quickly, since with this method of fishing, in fact, the load from the inside is not much less than from the outside. The usual nylon curtain rules, enough for 1 - 2 years of active mowing, interspersed with fruit picking. The "bark insect net" is basically similar to the second type of folding net that I have had the pleasure of using. That's just the podsak that is brought to the "combat position" in one movement, and nothing to screw-unscrew is not necessary. But there are doubts that the elastic band will fit snugly to the bark, especially at a considerable height. Doubts are based on the unsuccessful experience of catching that type of crawfish with a hook (there was a bottom instead of a tree). In addition, the rubber tube from time to time burst at the ends and had to be reshuffled, reducing the width of the net. And in the design that is on the site, this will be problematic to do, because the width is fixed. An ordinary homemade podsak with a hoop made of not too rigid steel wire copes with such tasks with a bang, just bend its hoop in accordance with the shape of a particular tree, and then straighten it back, and it will be round again. In general, self-made cars rule in all respects: stronger, more convenient, more versatile. Think about the tricky purchase net, perhaps worth it, only in the case of frequent travel by air, although even there it is fashionable to do it yourself: carry only a hoop with a bag, and pick up a stick from local materials.

Not well you give of course

... and laser cutting. And also nanotechnology smozashtopyvaniya.

The rake dance continues...

I looked at the nets in that shop - a nightmare and horror. Hoops folding exactly the same as in my Chinese podsak for 50 UAH. There are no complaints about its strength, carp can withstand 5 kilograms calmly. But pay attention to the suggested handles: they are very likely to crack on impact, and the attachment point will be turned out. Duralumin is not suitable for shock dynamic loads, thin-walled telescopic tube made of fiberglass-too. None of the handles presented there can be compared in strength with a stick made of good wood. Catch in the air, carefully avoiding a raid even on a bush - that's the fate of local nets. Or break down.

Very funny))) I have such a net (telescopic, with a folding hoop and a branded bag) lives for the third year. He has survived two expeditions to China from Dwarf Shan, Kunlun and Nanshan to the south-eastern outskirts of Tibet, fishing on rocks and high-altitude scree. I don't say anything about light warm-ups in the mountains of Morocco and in different parts of Russia.

I lie - I looked at the photos, he is in his fourth year, and I worked with him for another 1.5 months in Turkish Kurdistan and Iran. In total, more than 4 months of almost daily fishing in the mountains. I plan to work with him for at least one more season.

And here is what an ordinary working net of a Russian entomologist looks like:



A bag only for butterflies is not very suitable (rough), I have it for catching webs, mowing, and also collecting fruits (from their juice and color). Otherwise, the design is versatile, durable and time-tested. And all sorts of entosphinxes for 1000 UAH are show-offs for some glamorous butterfly-harvesting party, which, as it turned out, also need a welder to maintain performance.

This post was edited by ENO-08.12.2017 21: 44

lepidopterolog, but you probably didn't mow them and didn't scratch the bark, didn't dig into the apricot crowns, didn't beat the cherry plum branches, and didn't shoot crabs from the bun in seawater, right? In greenhouse lepidopterous conditions, any net will live a hundred years. But my net can be easily and easily used as yours (only the bag is better to change to a more gentle one), but yours as mine-hardly. And most importantly: I did not pay a penny for my net, all the materials were found in the old storeroom and in the nearest forest.

And here is what an ordinary working net of a Russian entomologist looks like:



A bag only for butterflies is not very suitable (rough), I have it for catching webs, mowing, and also collecting fruits (from their juice and color). Otherwise, the design is versatile, durable and time-tested. And all sorts of entosphinxes for 1000 UAH are show-offs for some glamorous butterfly-harvesting party, which, as it turned out, also need a welder to maintain performance.

I would say that he is too much of a worker
I had one, or rather in the likeness of such. I fished them once and a season and refused to use them. The disadvantages are quite obvious: the rim diameter is small and the fabric is rough. I'm not talking about the stick anymore.