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10.10.2007 11:39, Guest

The appropriate fabric is called organza.
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10.10.2007 21:22, okoem

I don't know about organza, I haven't tried it. A snapshot of my grid is attached.

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10.10.2007 22:54, Bafhomet

I don't know about organza, I haven't tried it. A snapshot of my grid is attached.

Can you tell me the name of this grid?

11.10.2007 1:19, Ekos

A little off topic, but... People, no one knows where you can get a good telescopic net? I know they make them in Japan and South Korea. Maybe someone knows the addresses on the Internet? wink.gif

11.10.2007 9:36, Bad Den

At the fishing equipment store wink.gif
Chinese podsak with telescopic handle and Folding hoops

12.10.2007 7:56, RippeR

Recently I was at the market, accidentally came across a tulle. Where they are cut into meters. I took a strip of excellent fabric with almost no holes at all. The fabric, in theory, should perfectly preserve the material, like Chinese nets (because the fabric is very similar to the one that was on my past - Chinese).. And the color can be chosen according to your taste, even if pink in a flower - for glamorous smile.gif

12.10.2007 9:24, Ekos

At the fishing equipment store wink.gif
Chinese podsak with a telescopic handle and a folding hoop


You don't quite understand. You need a net with a handle 5-7 m long, and the more, the better. This is for catching WILD marshmallows, they almost all live at a great height in the crowns of trees, almost without going downsmile.gif, And the Chinese podsaks have a short handle...

This post was edited by Ekos - 12.10.2007 09: 25

12.10.2007 11:30, Bad Den

You don't quite understand. You need a net with a handle 5-7 m long, and the more, the better. This is for catching WILD marshmallows, they almost all live at a great height in the crowns of trees, almost without going downsmile.gif, And the Chinese podsaks have a short handle...

My 2.5 m in the unfolded state+ paw per meter + hoop for 0.5 m-I have enough smile.gif

12.10.2007 15:50, entomolog

You don't quite understand. You need a net with a handle 5-7 m long, and the more, the better. This is for catching WILD marshmallows, they almost all live at a great height in the crowns of trees, almost without going downsmile.gif, And the Chinese podsaks have a short handle...

Take a plug-in carbon fiber rod for 10 meters, expensive but angry.

12.10.2007 16:46, mikee

Take a plug-in carbon fiber rod for 10 meters, expensive but angry.

And it will swing with the amplitude of its own length due to insufficient rigidity smile.gifis very important when catching marshmallows in the roof...
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13.10.2007 8:41, entomolog

And it will swing with the amplitude of its own length due to insufficient rigidity smile.gifis very important when catching marshmallows in the roof...

I do not agree, komlevaya part of 5 meters is quite tough. And much lighter than duralumin.

13.10.2007 9:42, taler

Recently I was at the market, accidentally came across a tulle. Where they are cut into meters. I took a strip of excellent fabric with almost no holes at all. The fabric, in theory, should perfectly preserve the material

Elusively, it will save the material.But there is also a rather big disadvantage of such a net-in windy weather it will work like a sail.It will take effort to swing, and the net will be quite clumsy.I repeat, I use several types of bags.And in my experience, I advise you all.Keep several types of bags in your backpack.

13.10.2007 11:10, Bafhomet

  
Elusively, it will save the material.But there is also a rather big disadvantage of such a net-in windy weather it will work like a sail.It will take effort to swing, and the net will be quite clumsy.I repeat, I use several types of bags.And in my experience, I advise you all.Keep several types of bags in your backpack.


Please tell me what types of bags? mol.gif

13.10.2007 13:17, taler

So after all, they already wrote.Suitable and tulle, and gauze, and podsachnaya mesh, and kapron.Depends on the fishing location and weather conditions.I prefer nylon or tulle.But again-its disadvantages.Not for fishing in windy weather and not for shrubs.Gauze wears out pretty quickly,but its advantage is in the wind.Podsachnaya net-quite rough, but indispensable for fishing in the bush.
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13.10.2007 14:32, RippeR

Thank you for advice wink.gif
It will be necessary to go to the market for a normal grid smile.gifFor the 2nd variant

15.10.2007 0:33, okoem

Can you tell me the name of this grid?

Here's what I don't know...

15.10.2007 20:48, mikee

I do not agree, komlevaya part of 5 meters is quite tough. And much lighter than duralumin.

If we are talking about 5 hard meters, then they must be at least 9-meter long from the rod. The diameter of the coml will be about 4 cm, and it is better not to mention the price.

15.10.2007 22:07, entomolog

If we are talking about 5 hard meters, then they must be at least 9-meter long from the rod. The diameter of the coml will be about 4 cm, and it is better not to mention the price.

Reread plz post #49 in this topic. Russian in white written: 10-meter plug, carbon fiber, expensive. But it meets your requirements for length and stiffness.

16.10.2007 11:19, Ironbutt

Duralumin, carbon..! .. et what for Saturnia such high-tech?!I remember catching them in the Amur region.Tying a hoop net to an AK-74 with a fixed bayonet leg.And normally got!and maybe the searchlight in the guard was good?!and as for the color of the net, so in my opinion it is not particularly important..? wink.gif

16.10.2007 12:03, алекс 2611

Duralumin, carbon..! .. et what for Saturnia such high-tech?!I remember catching them in the Amur region.Tying a hoop net to an AK-74 with a fixed bayonet leg.And normally got!and maybe the searchlight in the guard was good?!and as for the color of the net, so in my opinion it is not particularly important..? wink.gif


In the army, too, insects caught, but that with the help of AK-74.... I respect you...
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16.10.2007 12:43, Трофим

Yes, to what only the thinker does not think up, in pursuit of the desired material.

16.10.2007 14:59, entomolog

Duralumin, carbon..! .. et what for Saturnia such high-tech?!I remember catching them in the Amur region.Tying a hoop net to an AK-74 with a fixed bayonet leg.And normally got!and maybe the searchlight in the guard was good?!and as for the color of the net, so in my opinion it is not particularly important..? wink.gif

Strongly. For Saturnius AK, the argument is weighty. But since we are talking about marshmallows flying in the crowns, by analogy with the AK, an army helicopter will be just right... lol.gif
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16.10.2007 15:08, Трофим

About different caudates. Even the idea was to stretch a rope, well, more precisely than climbers use (it flew out of my head), you can't call it a rope. And ride with a carbine from one crown to another, and if there are a couple more trees along the way....

13.01.2010 2:46, Фиалка трехцветная

Hello, please tell me the answer to this question. In one of the dissertations, I found the phrase "catching butterflies was carried out with a standard entomological net" (but the author does not specify what "standard"means). What exactly is the diameter of the hoop and the depth of the net for catching daytime European butterflies can be considered standard?

13.01.2010 3:13, Alexandr Zhakov

Hello, please tell me the answer to this question. In one of the dissertations, I found the phrase "catching butterflies was carried out with a standard entomological net" (but the author does not specify what "standard"means). What exactly is the diameter of the hoop and the depth of the net for catching daytime European butterflies can be considered standard?


Nets with a diameter of 30 cm were produced in the Union in two versions, for air insects made of gauze and for water insects made of muslin. All educational and scientific institutions of the USSR purchased them through the stores of educational and visual aids.
I think it's about them. in the collectibles literature, the diameter of 30 cm also skips.
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13.01.2010 3:34, Alexandr Zhakov

The depth must be more than twice the diameter.

13.01.2010 8:01, entomolog

Hello, please tell me the answer to this question. In one of the dissertations, I found the phrase "catching butterflies was carried out with a standard entomological net" (but the author does not specify what "standard"means). What exactly is the diameter of the hoop and the depth of the net for catching daytime European butterflies can be considered standard?

For a long time I caught a net with a diameter of 30 cm, until Andrey Samokhin persuaded me to try to do it with a 50-centimeter one. There were many times fewer mistakes, but people came up much more often to find out if I was crazy, to catch fish at the edge of the forest...))))
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13.01.2010 15:15, Фиалка трехцветная

Thank you all for your answers. So, after all, most likely a 30-centimeter net was meant.
I myself had both 50 cm and 60 cm homemade, but at the university I was given just 30-40 cm approximately for graduate work (I didn't measure it exactly), but it was also not very convenient for me to catch them, but the reason is rather not in the diameter itself, but in the fact that the handle is heavy. So I used homemade nets with a handle made of bamboo fishing rods. Maybe this option will seem ridiculous, but for 6 years the handle has withstood all the bushes and wilds and did not break. And to carry such a net is completely light, besides, it makes it easy to maneuver..

This post was edited by Violet Tricolor - 13.01.2010 22: 56

13.01.2010 21:47, Yakovlev

A net less than 45 cm is a mockery. When fishing for diurnal fish. For micra, a smaller net is better.

13.01.2010 22:42, Фиалка трехцветная

So, it's not for nothing that I used homemade nets 50-60 cm in diameter.))

27.01.2010 21:27, Sergey Rybalkin

Has anyone used nets from an entomology store on www.entomon.ru/online/ how do they test for durability, especially the place where the stick is attached to the hoop? I'm thinking about purchasing, please advise me something.

28.01.2010 4:05, Karat

I also bought my own net from them for 50. True, after the season of operation, a problem began to arise with spreading the knees at the handle. And so everything is normal. Calmly withstood my" barbaric " sudden movements and all sorts of bushes. I took a homemade white cloth from them. Which is not clear from the factory...the ratio "length is 2 times the diameter" is broken.

28.01.2010 21:22, Nakonechny

They brought me a Czech net. I saw him at work. I really liked it. I'll try it out this season. You can view it on the website http://www.entosphinx.cz/_CZ/EU/

31.01.2010 13:03, sergey nyu

I use removable folding nets of various diameters. The mount is taken from the "Atlas of Butterflies and caterpillars of Europe...." ed by A. F. Devrien 1913. It may, of course, be archaic, but the mount is reliable, and the net I have is folded in half, but you can do it four times. I attach a photo of the attachment, the third one shows the hole through which the half-handle lock comes out when the net is unfolded. shuffle.gif
DSC00779.JPG the hoop is folded
DSC00780.JPG the hoop is unfolded, you can see how the retainer protrudes from the hole
DSC00781.JPG
In addition, making a hoop cost me 400 rubles. and a telescopic handle from a Chinese podsachnik (you can see the general view of the net in the topic "fishing reports" in my report)- the entire podsachnik costs 600 rubles. and I also have a handle made of the knee of a bamboo rod.

This post was edited by sergey nyu-01.02.2010 15: 16

31.01.2010 14:29, okoem

The mount is taken from the "Atlas of Butterflies and Caterpillars of Europe...." ed. by A. F. Devrien 1913.

IMHO, a very bulky, difficult to manufacture and massive version.
I just have a bolt and two hinges.
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The bolt is hooked to the loop with a piece of wire, i.e. it is twisted without a screwdriver.

31.01.2010 17:27, Sergey Rybalkin

I ordered a Czech net, a bag, a 50cm hoop and a telescope stick up to 1.4 m, for everything about everything-2700r. Just sent the order, after 15 minutes they called, clarified the order and said that they would send it tomorrow. Delivery by mail. Waiting.

01.02.2010 22:14, Yakovlev

All nets are triggered. I bought a titanium Japanese podsachek in Japan-I will sew a normal fabric on it. m. b. will it be OK?

01.02.2010 23:06, RippeR

I had a net from Korea, but the production is most likely Japan, budmayu the same Shiga. There was a great net and held everything, but the heavy stone did not hold, bent )) There was aluminum.

02.02.2010 14:42, Трофим

IMHO, a very bulky, difficult to manufacture and massive version.
I just have a bolt and two hinges.
user posted image
The bolt is hooked to the loop with a piece of wire, i.e. it is twisted without a screwdriver.


Exactly the same mount. The hoop can be made even by yourself, you only need a 4 mm steel wire and a vise. You put two nails in the vise and make loops between them. It turns out 4 elements, I connect the elements with nuts and bolts (for 4) and I have a key with me to tighten it.
P.S.
I bought a Chinese net, everything would not burst and made the diameter smaller, but once running through nastpil on the hoop and cylinder kirdyk came.

02.02.2010 15:52, okoem

It turns out 4 elements, I connect the elements with nuts and bolts (for 4) and I have a key with me to tighten it.
You can do without a key. Just crack the nuts and that's it.
user posted image

Here here all manufacturing technology.
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