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08.12.2017 21:50, lepidopterolog

lepidopterolog, but you probably didn't mow them and didn't scratch the bark, didn't dig into the apricot crowns, didn't beat the cherry plum branches, and didn't shoot crabs from the bun in seawater, right? In greenhouse lepidopterous conditions, any net will live a hundred years. But my net can be easily and easily used as yours (only the bag is better to change to a more gentle one), but yours as mine-hardly. And most importantly: I did not pay a penny for my net, all the materials were found in the old storeroom and in the nearest forest.

Wow greenhouses - in the mountains, butterflies are usually caught not in the air, but by hitting a net on a rock/rock / scree) And on the bark scratched, and in the crowns they, of course, caught-the benefit is engaged in marshmallows and caudates, many of which usually do not leave the crowns.

08.12.2017 22:14, Alexandr Zhakov

Everyone at school read the fable "The Fox and the Grapes".!

08.12.2017 22:15, vafdog

And here is what an ordinary working net of a Russian entomologist looks like:

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Ugh!

Do you suggest doing your favorite thing like this ?

(couldn't resist)

09.12.2017 0:43, Hierophis

Yeah.. Yes, our expert ischo and sniper!!!
Well, okay, it's clear, it was made through w..., but catching butterflies with a 20cm net is the height of perfection, although if you train, then you can go to the aquarium, compact, convenient )))))

09.12.2017 1:11, ИНО

I hope " G "meant" brilliant." If someone needs a special aesthetic harmony and beauty of the instrument to do their "favorite thing", then this is no different from ordering handmade work from Japanese masters, and not using converted Chinese backpacks. But I do not suffer from such garbage, and it is important for me that the working tool is really 100% working and wear-resistant. Because I catch not two weeks in a foreign trip, but about every other day 6-7 months a year. And I catch not only insects. I can even catch a bird without serious consequences for the net. And in this context, my rough simple net will give a huge head start to your gentle and expensive ones. If you don't believe it, come and go to the field and do a comparative test (so be it, without catching birds smile.gif)

09.12.2017 1:44, NIKSTER

  

Marshmallows - and a marshmallow net. Crowns in general and apricot crowns are very different objects. Try to collect 10 kg of apricots with your net, if you survive, I'll admit my mistake.

You'll never understand. These nets are designed for catching insects, not apricots and even more so birds.

09.12.2017 4:20, Bianor

09.12.2017 11:53, Bad Den

We tried the nets from this series, so far we only managed to break a stick lol.gif
http://www.entosphinx.cz/en/216-special-hunting-set-tropic

Hoop unfolding mechanism - https://youtu.be/so1aoE-vxV4

09.12.2017 16:37, Bianor

Good stuff! You need to make a joke in China.

09.12.2017 17:14, Peter Khramov

Not any of them. This one, for example, will not even last a week in the most greenhouse conditions:

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This nonsense is generally not clear what it is made for. Either the hoop will split, or the mount, which is cast from fragile plastic, will fall apart, or the handle will fall apart. And most likely, there will be total and unrecoverable destruction.


By and large, the problems there are only in the attachment point of the hoop to the handle.

09.12.2017 19:38, Bianor

The hoop is not made of duralumin or wire, but of soft aluminum tubes, it splits simply from loads when swinging, even if you do not hit anything. The plastic clips on the handle peel off from the aluminum, then split. The assembly attachment to the handle generally needs to be immediately poured into the epoxy, because it does not live up to the evening. But in general, yes, it looks quite presentable.

10.12.2017 0:54, Hierophis

In general, of course, buying a net for me personally - well, this is nonsense just, but you can still do it somehow, to put it mildly, better weep.gif
We have already seen what the working net of the "Russian entomologist" looks like, with which both the wasp and the apricot can be caught (although it is over, it is clear that in fact the forum expert absolutely wrongly used these words here, undeservedly offending Russian entomologists smile.gif) Moreover, for posting such pictures in general, you need to be fined, as for distributing pornography on the Internet ))))

And this is what the net of a non-Russian non-entomologist looks like jump.gif
Just, by the way, for shrimps including))
To make such a net-you need about 4x dolars, on a duralumin tube, and a piece of stainless steel 6 mm in diameter. It is done in 2-3 hours, bent the wire, calculated and cut the curtain into 3 petals, sewed, stretched, wrapped with a protective PVC tube, inserted a wedge into the tube, clamped and that's it. And still with this net you can even catch shrimps, even knock out the carpet, it won't break for sure))

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10.12.2017 1:46, Peter Khramov

The hoop is not made of duralumin or wire, but of soft aluminum tubes, it splits simply from loads when swinging, even if you do not hit anything. The plastic clips on the handle peel off from the aluminum, then split. The assembly attachment to the handle generally needs to be immediately poured into the epoxy, because it does not live up to the evening. But in general, yes, it looks quite presentable.

I now have such hoops with tubes no longer left, only wire ones, but at one time I collected statistics. There were no loose clamps, they were broken when working on the most expanded state (there are no limiters with fool protection — this is also a minus, by the way). I've never heard about broken pipes, although I've interviewed people specifically. The attachment to the handle survives until the evening, but in general it is brittle, as I wrote above.
I mean, this is the best option out of the cheapest ones.
Another thing is that in addition to the cheapest, there should be other options. Right now, we're just sculpting, but it's been going on for a long time, we thought about where to start the thread in October, but it looks like it will only work out closer to spring...

10.12.2017 4:09, ИНО

11.12.2017 10:33, СаняМухолов

I use Entomon nets. The biggest disadvantage of which is the screw-on attachment of the rim to the stick, which constantly needs to be tightened and the first knee of the telescopic tube that sticks. Otherwise, the net is quite good. It is also convenient for transportation by air, and even in hand luggage. Like a recent trip to Italy, with a connection in Brussels, the security service folded in a backpack net did not excite them (as well as DRV lamps and 50m wires). Also, according to my observations, it is better to use a black or green bag fabric for a net, it looks more like a fishing bag and the local population does not have questions and wants to know what I am doing.
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11.12.2017 12:00, Норд

I use Entomon nets. The biggest disadvantage of which is the screw-on attachment of the rim to the stick, which constantly needs to be tightened and the first knee of the telescopic tube that sticks. Otherwise, the net is quite good. It is also convenient for transportation by air, and even in hand luggage. Like a recent trip to Italy, with a connection in Brussels, the security service folded in a backpack net did not excite them (as well as DRV lamps and 50m wires). Also, according to my observations, it is better to use a black or green bag fabric for a net, it looks more like a fishing bag and the local population does not have questions and wants to know what I am doing.


I completely agree, the ring in the stick also constantly sticks and I constantly have to tighten this mount, but unfortunately I broke this mount(

11.12.2017 14:41, ИНО

Nord, welcome to the rapidly growing club of owners of broken Czech-Chinese crafts!

And yet, I believe that I'm not the only one who is interested in the purpose of Pan Hierophis ' extravagant net. Perhaps the designer will still deign to shed some light on this? I've been scratching turnips for a long time, but I couldn't come up with a single application of this form. Okay, it would still have the side faces straight, but here confused.gif

11.12.2017 16:02, Andrey Ponomarev

I've been using this net for years and I'm very happy with it.
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1011756

11.12.2017 19:33, ИНО

What's the inner bag made of? Doesn't break?

This post was edited by ENO - 12/11/2017 19: 33

11.12.2017 20:44, Hierophis

It seems to have been such an answer to the expert, why such a form)))
Although, as far as I remember, I took this form from a methodical manual of some kind or on ichthyology or entomology or something like that, so the form is well-known, just instead of turnips, you sometimes need to scratch your head)))
But somehow I had to catch a butterfly with this net - this is terrible, although there is a side length of about 30 cm, for butterflies 50 cm is much better)
Here is such a net I made back in 2005 or something, the design was invented independently, weighs 250g, a triangle of 70X70X50 and a handle of 90 umnik.gif

I only changed the tulle net from the curtain as far as I remember quickly, bought some kind of similar fabric in a rag shop, but thermonuclear, very thin and strong with a 0.5 mm cell, and it was easy to swing, but it was expensive, and I mowed it with this net, and even caught it in the water and pulled out snags, and only two small ones holes)

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11.12.2017 21:44, ИНО

What is the answer? In the photo on the link of Gennadich, a completely different form of hoop, which really makes practical sense in some situations. If the pan doesn't see the difference, I don't even know which doctor to recommend. Pan made angles where there should be arcs, and arcs where there should be straight lines. As a result, if the original mowing net allowed the hoop to be pressed close to flat surfaces (first of all, to the ground), then Panov's parody with its meaningless form only causes inconvenience, which he himself noticed:

11.12.2017 21:46, Andrey Ponomarev

What's the inner bag made of? Doesn't break?

The inner bag is white dense synthetic with a very small cell similar to organza. Never torn even when mowing on the briar.

This post was edited by Gennadich - 12/11/2017 21: 47
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11.12.2017 21:53, ИНО

Interesting! If it doesn't break even on rosehip, then this is a very cool material. This, in theory, can be used independently and you will get a universal net, better than from a curtain. If only I knew the exact name...

11.12.2017 22:10, Hierophis

Yes ushsh, the grammaticality of the expert is amazing ))
In fact, this form of the first net was made just in order to ensure maximum contact with the bottom at any angle of inclination, and there are not just "arcs", but very evolvents umnik.gif
But of course, a 20 cm bent hoop, and it looks like it's made of a 16 kV luminescent wire, on a clumsy stick - much cooler, just some nanotechnology-a net of variable geometry umnik.gif
I have an aquarium net and then about 25 cm sides weep.gif

12.12.2017 0:15, ИНО

12.12.2017 0:47, Hierophis

12.12.2017 0:54, Hierophis

And everything is normal in the aquarium, contrary to expert opinion, just an aquarium, and the fish in it - respectively. size for 25cm net umnik.gif

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12.12.2017 2:44, ИНО

It is clear: only anubias (for the bottom of the pan probably hasn't sunk them yet) and Riccia (even if you stir it with a spoon in a glass, it will still grow) survived the unequal battle with Pan's 25 cm net. And the entire length of the squirrel repeated the judge of the Tunguska taiga. How's it going, black caviar coming soon?

12.12.2017 18:00, александр барышев

And here is what an ordinary working net of a Russian entomologist looks like:

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A bag only for butterflies is not very suitable (rough), I have it for catching webs, mowing, and also collecting fruits (from their juice and color). Otherwise, the design is versatile, durable and time-tested. And all sorts of entosphinxes for 1000 UAH are show-offs for some glamorous butterfly-harvesting party, which, as it turned out, also need a welder to maintain performance.


In general, a super thing, universal - you can collect apricots, strain the braga, and beat the enemy to death, and in the steppe there will be something to build a fire. But seriously - then you need to put an axe on the stick-that will be a "thing in itself"..

12.12.2017 18:31, ИНО

This stick is a sin to stick in the fire, it is from a rare and very strong shrub, the name of which I do not know to my deepest shame (I saw in winter, so I do not see the leaves, and I do not know how to determine the type of plant from the bark, alas). I have a walking stick made of the same material, and it can be used to "beat the enemy to death", despite its subtlety and lightness. And envy that someone can work with their hands is a bad feeling, and completely meaningless, given the fact that learning to do it yourself is a couple of trifles.

This post was edited INO-12.12.2017 18: 32

12.12.2017 19:07, Hierophis

12.12.2017 19:11, александр барышев

This stick is a sin to stick in the fire, it is from a rare and very strong shrub, the name of which I do not know to my deepest shame (I saw in winter, so I do not see the leaves, and I do not know how to determine the type of plant from the bark, alas). I have a walking stick made of the same material, and it can be used to "beat the enemy to death", despite its subtlety and lightness. And envy that someone can work with their hands is a bad feeling, and completely meaningless, given the fact that learning to do it yourself is a couple of trifles.

"working with pens" is certainly good - the main thing is that the "hair on the palms" does not grow after that, but you really need to be able to do something with your hands other than G -..

12.12.2017 19:22, ИНО

I wonder if this person is really writing all this seriously. confused.gif
Although yes, I have to admit, although I also like to do a lot of things myself, but this is the product. which was demonstrated by our brilliant expert I can't do!!! Well, I can't, ahhh!!!! frown.gif  weep.gif

Of course not smoget, pan moget do only such tin, which "butterflies catch horror", and you can catch only tweezers and vbyunov. But a normal Russian person will understand.
Alexander baryshev, I will pretend that I did not notice the insults worthy not of an entomologist, but of a gopnik from the alley, and yet I will ask: where can I admire the perfect creations of your hands?

This post was edited INO-12.12.2017 19: 23

12.12.2017 19:34, ИНО

I would say that he is too much of a worker lol.gif
I had one, or rather in the likeness of such. I fished them once and a season and refused to use them. The disadvantages are quite obvious: the rim diameter is small and the fabric is rough. I'm not talking about the stick anymore. smile.gif

I clearly warned you about the fabric: it's not for butterflies. Although it does not interfere with catching butterflies, it is only necessary to annoy them with extreme caution. The rim diameter is obviously an individual thing, depending on the biometric characteristics of the catcher and his technique. I tried to use large nets, but they seemed inconvenient to me: high inertia, high air resistance, you can not push through a narrow place, it is inconvenient to transport. The latter drawback, of course, can be solved by a folding design, but as is clear from the current discussion, it is fragile. But the rest are solved only by reducing the diameter. I will say more: recently, in cases where I go purposefully to catch my target objects-hymenoptera-I usually take a different net: with a one and a half times smaller rim and a 15-centimeter handle. They are even easier to manipulate, especially in close proximity, which sometimes decides the outcome of fishing. And don't think that all hymenoptera are as "shy" as the honey bee.

12.12.2017 20:01, Hierophis

12.12.2017 21:23, александр барышев

Of course not smoget, pan moget do only such tin, which "butterflies catch horror", and you can catch only tweezers and vbyunov. But a normal Russian person will understand.
Alexander baryshev, I will pretend that I did not notice the insults worthy not of an entomologist, but of a gopnik from the alley, and yet I will ask: where can I admire the perfect creations of your hands?

Enjoy your creations, I can't compare with you, and for the yard slang, forgive me generously - this is Penza that affects people so much)

12.12.2017 22:37, ИНО

13.12.2017 14:35, Hierophis

13.12.2017 21:58, александр барышев

Only, it seems that there was not enough strategic thermonuclear curtain for the bag, since even on a triangular net it turned out to be twice as short as it should be. And what is this strange attachment point? Although this is probably for an even weirder handle. As for evenness, Pan flatters himself a lot: there are a few obvious humps. I have a new hoop perfectly smooth turns out, all the bumps are the result of multiple transformations, but they do not interfere with fishing. But the main thing is that the wire is thick at pan, if there were enough money for a normal-sized bag and a handle, I would be curious to see with what grace and precision pan would wave this division.

By the way, yes: polistov at the nest to catch only such a net and comfortable, large-only together with the nest. But any other hymenoptera, even the most cautious and fast, are perfectly caught with a short net, both on flowers and in the air. Sleight of hand, and no cheating (S). I haven't tried it specifically on cryptoheilus, we don't have any of them.

The net is not for admiring, but for working. And I admire other objects and phenomena, mostly of natural origin.

clothing is also used to keep warm, a car is a means of transportation, and so on, but neither you nor I ride carts dressed in skins, fortunately. And the handle of your product is just of "natural origin".. I personally don't like using a stone axe, or crafting obsidian skins, and admiring has nothing to do with it. However I shouldn't have mentioned it

This post was edited by alexander baryshev - 12/13/2017 22: 02

13.12.2017 23:06, ИНО

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