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KingSnake, 22.04.2008 19:58

I've heard a lot and sometimes read about them, but I don't have the faintest idea what they look like, much less how to make them. In this regard, I would like someone to share their experience...

I apologize if there was such a topic.

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22.04.2008 20:57, Nozer

There are honey baits, I use them myself, this is an ordinary gauze soaked in stray honey, you can add raisins to beer to speed up the fermentation process.Catocala butterflies and others come to honeybees that feed, and during the day hymenoptera and beetles fly, although I myself caught only moths on such lures. In general, there are a lot of lures, such as rotten fruit.

23.04.2008 20:46, Coleopter

Urrrraaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif My favorite theme!!! Lures can only be limited to your imagination. Any: manure, carrion, fruits and vegetables, including rotten ones, mushrooms of all kinds The best combination: bait + soil trap. Do not forget about liquid baits: vinegar k-ta, mash (see the answer above).
I recommend working through it: 1. Paliy V. F. Methodology of phenological studies of insects. - Frunze 1966. - 177 p.
2. Fasulati K. K. Field study of terrestrial invertebrates, Moscow: Higher School of Medicine, 1971, 424 p.
3. Korotnev. Bugs. "A very rare book.
S. If you have any more questions, please write and I will be happy to answer them!!! smile.gif
P. PS As far as possible I will independently supplement myself
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24.04.2008 7:58, treator

mozht who thread probvl lure on pheromones???

24.04.2008 8:16, KingSnake

Should I use our fruits (apples, pears) or overseas ones (bananas, oranges)?

Coleopter, unfortunately the books listed by you are not found in our libraries in Mordovia.

24.04.2008 9:51, americanecz

I've seen this method somewhere...
A plastic bottle has its side windows cut out...
How the bird feeder turns out!
Inside the bait is placed and hung on a tree!!!
Moustache musk so caught in the country!
On bonan rotten!
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25.04.2008 1:20, Coleopter

Fruits can be used absolutely any: and our, and tropical
With the help of pheramones, you can make interesting collections: a view of which this thing was made (as a rule, agricultural and forest pests (butterflies and bark beetles)), as well as their predators and necrophages
To attract bronzes, I usually use a trough with liquid bait
Here's what it looks like

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02.05.2008 16:00, metallman.92

who knows how to lure a deer beetle?? and at what time to do it?? (I'm going to fish in Rostov-on-don)

02.05.2008 16:11, taler

And how to attract goldsmiths?????

03.05.2008 8:29, Lucanus

A stag beetle can be lured by a female(unfertilized). You can try slightly fermented oak juice.
metallman. 92,and you are from Rostov? If yes-then write in PM or on the soap.

03.05.2008 18:11, Трофим

And how to attract goldsmiths?????


The same as the barbel. Beer + wine in equal proportions (500 ml each), sugar 2-3 tablespoons (per liter), and 2 tablespoons of salt. Hang the bottle (cut a hole on the side)on a tree, or a glass and check once a week. I haven't tried it myself yet. But RippeR has already caught, at least some bronzes and barbels are not bad, I think that zlatki will also go.

03.05.2008 20:56, metallman.92

this whole mixture should be mixed until smooth or fall asleep, pour and leave?

03.05.2008 21:58, mems

And if you drink all this stuff and fall asleep in the woods, by morning what, a mouthful of barbels will be smile.gif

This post was edited by mems - 03.05.2008 21: 59

04.05.2008 0:55, Coleopter

Try using turpentine

05.05.2008 15:14, RippeR

As for the goldsmiths, I only got 1 and that wasn't for me.. Zlatki can also go for some fruit, jam.. We must try..
Instead of bottles and cutting them out, you can be content with beer plastic glasses, sticking them to trees (you can stick them between branches, you can stick them with tape, you can nail them, etc. etc.)
I want to try mash on barbel.. In theory, it should go, since beetles react so readily to both it and wine, then in theory, barbels can also react not badly - we will try.

05.05.2008 20:54, Nozer

I catch there on the lamp for 13 years and never small red ribbon did not fly.

I think a good honey cake will be more reliable than a lamp. Of course, the scoop
, moth and others can be caught in the light, but for Catocala it is more convenient to use baits. This summer I was fishing in Ivanteevka for bait and it seems that the same 2 promissa arrived. So try and experiment smile.gif

05.05.2008 21:29, Lucanus

Here I wonder, and chernotelok can be what to lure?

05.05.2008 23:40, RippeR

depends on which ones?
if those that run around the fields, then you can still use the same thing, they can get caught..

06.05.2008 11:44, Sergey Didenko

Can you tell me a recipe for a GOOD honey cake? And that beer with sugar or honey did not give any results. And how/where is it better to hang?

06.05.2008 12:03, Nozer

Can you tell me a recipe for a GOOD honey cake? And that beer with sugar or honey did not give any results. And how/where is it better to hang?

No, I can't say any other recipe, I caught it myself for honey and beer. I hung up the numbers on August 15 at dusk. Maybe you saw a stray ribbon girl? This can also happen. In any case, if the baits did not help, you can really try on the pricked DRL.

06.05.2008 12:17, Sergey Didenko

No, I can't say any other recipe, I caught it myself for honey and beer. I hung up the numbers on August 15 at dusk. Maybe you saw a stray ribbon girl? This can also happen. In any case, if the bait did not help, you can really try for a pricked DRL.

At what height was it hung? What was used as the basis for soaking honey? Open or closed space?

06.05.2008 12:30, Nozer

The height is about 2.5 m, the most common honey cake: beer+honey and some raisins to speed up the fermentation process, the place is open.
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06.05.2008 12:34, Coleopter

For black heifers, mown grass is laid out in the fields of row crops and in pairs. This kind of bait is called shading or concentrating. The check is carried out early in the morning on the next day after the layout of the grass
Dunaev E. A., 1997. Metody ekologo-entomologicheskikh issledovaniy [Methods of ecological and entomological research], Moscow: Mosgorsyun, 44 p., 24 ill.
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06.05.2008 19:10, RippeR

and if you put glasses with any liquid under the grass, for example, the same brew, then most likely it will be possible to collect these black-bodied animals not by digging in the grass, but by pouring out of the glass and leaving traps for a longer period.

06.05.2008 20:02, RippeR

By the way, the following bait idea came up:
The basic idea is based on the same traps for barbels-a jar, a bottle, but better some kind of bucket or something else larger with a retainer attached to a long rope with a sinker at the other end. We choose a crown or crowns higher, a protruding branch and throw a rope with a sinker. the rope clings and we pull the bucket with bait over it, so the trap is in the crown of the tree without much effort. we tie the rope anywhere, preferably to the same tree.
Maybe this will allow you to collect interesting insects that do not like to fly low and descend?
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07.05.2008 22:12, Дзанат

2 Coleopter
and if you put glasses with any liquid under the grass, for example, the same brew, then most likely it will be possible to collect these black bodies without digging in the grass, but pouring out of the glass and leaving traps for a longer period.

Oh, by the way, I thought of that, too. I remembered how on the hottest day of the trip (the one you remember when it was unbearable to work from the heat) you piled a pile of grass so that the beetles would come running smile.gifthere and what? how to collect them there later?

This post was edited by Dzanat - 07.05.2008 22: 32

07.05.2008 22:15, Дзанат

To attract bronzes I usually use a trough with liquid bait
Here's what it looks like

Is it just a bait trough with no glass???

07.05.2008 23:52, RippeR

I last year in the bait for barbels for a week flew with a dozen Fieberi and the same or more Aurat, and like a couple of metallic was..
That is, you can use anything you want.. the only thing-you can vary, in kachesvte bait to put and wine and fruit, etc. etc.

08.05.2008 16:06, fly-km

fermented watermelon + melon - nothing happened...Why?

08.05.2008 17:09, Ilia Ustiantcev

Do you think there will be a thread somewhere in July for 5 days under 30 degrees?.. If you take a canister of salted water and pour it into a hole on the side of the road, will day butterflies fly?

09.05.2008 9:12, americanecz

About daytime...
They also seem to need nitrogen compounds...???
Can then" urea " granulated in the thick to dilute???
It is sold in any store for gardeners for a penny...
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09.05.2008 18:30, Tomas.Adzkee

Good afternoon.

Who used what substances as bait, and for what insects?

I also found some wine vinegar in the store. I bought. It smells very much like it... And in principle, powder products bite?

09.05.2008 20:03, metallman.92

I remembered an incident from the summer. I don't know if you can call it a bait or rather a method of fishing, in general, if someone is interested in floaters:
we jam the entrance of fish fry ~5 cm or bring pieces of raw meat with us, tie them to a string and carefully submerge them in water (in a pre-marked habitat of floaterssmile.gif), wait until they grab the fry and start dragging it to the bottom or swimming with it, not with a strong jerk pull it out towards the shore or catch it with a net smile.gifin this way. caught pieces of 3 swimmers + several swimmers)
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12.05.2008 13:25, Coleopter

Can you tell me a recipe for a GOOD honey cake? And that beer with sugar or honey did not give any results. And how/where is it better to hang?

Medovik classic
Composition: 1 l. beer, honey, 1 l. water, yeast (it is most convenient to use soluble dry yeast in sachets) 2-3 pack.
The beer is filled with 1 pack. yeast, put in a warm place. When the beer turns sour, and this will be clearly noticeable by the characteristic turbidity, they begin to prepare the second part of the bait. To do this, honey is dissolved in warm water, if desired, you can additionally add jam, sugar, etc. Then yeast is added to the resulting mixture, combined with sour beer and again put in a warm place. After 7-10 days, the bait will be ready.
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12.05.2008 13:32, Coleopter

2 Coleopter
I remembered how on the hottest day of the trip (the one you remember when it was unbearable to work from the heat) you piled a pile of grass so that the beetles would come running smile.gifthere and what? how to collect them there later?

I didn't do everything right that day: I needed more grass and water, and I needed to check more often. Inspection can be carried out manually or by sifting through a sieve.
To the question about the trough, it is without glass
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12.05.2008 13:36, Coleopter

fermented watermelon + melon - nothing happened...Why?

How did you apply it? At me in augsute 2005 on the sour watermelon came: bronzki golden, blestyanki, stafiliny + heap of pereponov

30.08.2008 12:52, Raptor

Please tell us how to PREPARE and FIX baits for moths,hawkmoth,and tapeworms in the field???

31.08.2008 13:12, El Cazador

Please tell us how to PREPARE and FIX baits for moths,hawkmoth,and tapeworms in the field???

On this occasion, a couple of years ago, a good movie was on TV. There, a Canadian entomologist in South America caught morfid. Bananas, watermelons, Coca-Cola, sour wine, human urine (sorry) and a day or two in the heat. I tried this recipe myself personally. Unfortunately, the morphids didn't come to me, but L. populi in June, N. antiopa and Catocal, s are now flying like cute ones.
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15.09.2008 12:45, Трофим

Although it's still a pity that the morphids didn't arrive smile.gif

16.09.2008 20:07, El Cazador

I realize that there are doctors among the forum members, but I answer this way - I was waiting for them (morfid). smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

This post was edited by El Cazador - 09/16/2008 20: 08

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