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12.09.2009 17:57, Aaata

we must try.. My friend had an idea to collect oak juice in general and catch it instead of beer or wine..

the question is where and how to drink so much juice.

12.09.2009 18:07, RippeR

where-in oak smile.gif
I don't know exactly how.. You can try it as when collecting birch, or you can try to cut off the edge of a branch and put a bottle in the throat.

In any case too much is not necessary

or you can also try to make a wound on some tree so that it lets out sap, and then come to collect it.
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12.09.2009 19:19, Aaata

where-in oak smile.gif
I don't know exactly how.. You can try it as when collecting birch, or you can try to cut off the edge of a branch and put a bottle in the throat.

In any case too much is not necessary

or you can also try to make a wound on some tree so that it lets out sap, and then come to collect it.

smile.gif What I mean about oaks is that you can still look for them in the north, because you have them at every turn.

12.09.2009 19:38, RippeR

well, then you should not catch their juice :
This wine is the best! True, too, if there is something to attract him..
Otherwise, you can injure any tree, and put a half-liter glass with a retainer or bait under the wound-that's the solution)

12.09.2009 20:41, Black Coleopter

I fully support turpentine, although I haven't tried it myself. About oak sap: undoubtedly an ideal bait for many poorly caught bronzes (including aurogenosis) deer beetle, etc. Another thing is how to get at least 0.5 liters of juice. Option: try to get artificially, knowing the composition of the juice. confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif

12.09.2009 20:46, RippeR

if the goal is aruginosa or laziness, then indulging in juice is pointless, they go well for beer and wine, you don't even need to bother too much )

13.09.2009 16:15, Black Coleopter

if the goal is aruginosa or laziness, then indulging in juice is pointless, they go well for beer and wine, you don't even have to worry too much )

Is this really tested in practice??? If so, it solves many questions. Did you catch auroginosa yourself in this way???

13.09.2009 16:23, Black Coleopter

 
how about caramels,chupachups

Try the trail. structure:
Ingredients: 0.5 kg of caramel, 2 liters of water.
Candy (preferably stuffed) dissolve in hot water. Allow to infuse for 4-5 days

13.09.2009 16:26, Black Coleopter

What you can use for bait:
and the oak barbel
The latter does not go for any bait mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

Here, in my opinion, it is better to try the light

13.09.2009 17:29, RippeR

about aruginosa-absolutely!
tested by Danilevsky and Trofim at least! I did not bet at the right time and only lugubris and a couple of fieberi flew to me. And so, even specials fly (though not with us ^^ )

An oak barbel flew into the crown trap for Trofim. And oak trees fly to the light only in the Caucasus. Although they can also fly in other places, but there are few chances. Sometimes even unexpected things come to light)
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13.09.2009 23:51, Black Coleopter

On the sweet bait fibiri and lugubris I also caught, especially on the apple go well

14.09.2009 13:55, Bad Den

And oak trees fly to the light only in the Caucasus.

To me in the Crimea flew.

14.09.2009 15:31, Frantic

To me, too. Only in the light of oak trees and caught-that in the Krasnodar territory, that on the South coast of the Crimea.

14.09.2009 20:51, RippeR

yes, they fly to Crimea )

02.02.2010 14:52, Трофим

According to Vorontsov (1975), the species prefers undergrowth stands, which are more infested with large oak barbel. Coincidentally or not, of the 14 crown traps located in different locations, oak was trapped in a clearing with overgrowth.
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02.02.2010 20:58, RippeR

perhaps this means that barbels prefer bright areas where trees shade each other less

03.02.2010 17:14, Трофим

By and large, this is true, but even in a forest without cutting down, there are surprises.

04.02.2010 2:24, RippeR

bugs are everywhere.. Even in cities, rarities are found.

16.05.2010 8:27, Garricos

And who can tell you the subtleties of catching moths on a honey cake - you need to be on duty all night, like with a light, or you can go up and collect them in the morning? smile.gif Maybe what kind of device is there?

16.05.2010 9:22, RippeR

and why should they stay there until morning - they ate and left. Therefore, it is necessary to come and catch it. As far as I remember, it is better to use a weak headlamp here, otherwise many people are very timid.
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16.05.2010 17:57, Black Coleopter

6. Medoviki

Moths can also be caught all summer on baits. The best bait is fermented honey. Honey is diluted slightly with water or sour beer (sometimes a little raisins are added), let it stand, and when it ferments, the bait is ready. This honey is smeared on tree trunks or fence boards. It is more profitable to prepare so-called "honey cakes". To do this, take pieces of rare cloth-gauze, burlap-and soak them with honey; in the south, it is better to take cloth or even felt, since here evaporation is stronger, and it is important that the fabric is more saturated with honey. Before impregnation, the fabric is thoroughly washed. Honey cakes are hung before dusk on trees or on stretched ropes, or wrapped around tree trunks. Often medoviki are made in the form of small pieces of cloth (or soaked in honey slices of dried apples), which are then strung on twine in the manner of dried mushrooms (but not thickly) and each time before fishing again smeared with honey. Old honeybees, and dark ones at that, work better than new or light ones. The smell of honey flies a lot of scoops, tapeworms, moth flies, and sometimes some hawkmoth flies. Butterflies are removed from honeybees, covering them with a stain or a glass, and those flying away are caught with a net. Especially strongly fly butterflies on the bait on dark cloudy nights.
Instead of honey, you can use other baits: sugar solution with apple essence or sour beer, sour raspberry jam, melon slices, syrup (sugar) from willow flowers (in spring). This kind of bait can catch not only butterflies: hung during the day, they attract other insects — hymenoptera, some flies, some beetles. [2]
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17.05.2010 20:28, barko

6. Medoviki

Moths can also be caught all summer on baits. The best bait is fermented honey. Honey is diluted slightly with water ...
This is probably a very old manual smile.gif

Modern beer and modern honey are useless as bait. The most effective bait is natural wine with sugar.

"All summer" on the bait butterflies are not caught. Only in early spring, until April it is noticeable and in late autumn when there is no flowering and movement of plant juices. In summer, the bait can (and should) be caught in the very dry, when there is little moisture. Somewhere in late July or early August, you can start catching katolin and some others. But I will repeat once again that the weather should be really dry.
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18.05.2010 0:53, Black Coleopter

Yes, the manual is not new, after all Plavilshchikov...
About beer is not a fact. On the usual sour pasteurized beer flies well, in any case beetles.

18.05.2010 12:38, RippeR

beer.gif + sugar + drojde and everything is ok - any beer becomes better
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25.05.2010 23:31, Zheka

But what if you add a certain fast-acting insecticide to the bait, and a container for collecting etched insects under the bait? Not humane, but still?

25.05.2010 23:58, Black Coleopter

Yes, this applies. The main thing is that the insecticide has no smell (for example, "Regent", "Aktara", "Confidor", "Mospilan"), otherwise it can simply scare off insects
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10.08.2010 23:07, SergeyB

dear comrades, I would like to ask you something: what kind of bait can you try to catch N. antiopa with?

11.08.2010 2:28, А.Й.Элез

Braga on honey: honey, water, yeast. It also flies on drunken oaks or birches, on the cuts and cracks of fruit trees with fermenting leaking juice (apple trees, for example).

11.08.2010 13:24, london

Tovareshi! But it's interesting...has anyone ever tried to put vanilla for baking in braga???
Agree the smell is very sweet and strong, even for the human nose

11.08.2010 18:42, cdjob

I tried a trap that I came up with myself. Well, of course not super turned out. But in two days it was fine. True, the first pancake is lumpy, now I realized that the trap needs to be checked every day, and then after three days in two traps from blue ribbons, only wings remained, someone dined with them and safely dumped. And so the catch would be normal on the 4th trap caught somewhere around 30 butterflies, almost no beetles. Traps were taped to the tree with tape, which were closer to the ground got a bug.

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11.08.2010 19:33, El Cazador

Here's another trap. At the bottom, it is better to make another hoop, then the grid does not sag. During the day, nymphalids go well, there are up to a dozen corner - wing admirals, and scoops at night.

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11.08.2010 19:34, Шарлай

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11.08.2010 20:04, cdjob

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01.10.2010 18:00, Konung

I would like to share my experience on using baits for moths. They were made from a mix of all kinds of fruits-bananas, apples, peaches, melons, grapes, plums, pears. It is desirable that the fruit was slightly spoiled, crumpled, sour. All this is ground with a blender or in a meat grinder into porridge. The mixture should be kept warm for at least three days. the day before fishing, honey, sugar, and a little yeast are added to the bait. This fermented mixture can be spread with a brush on tree trunks, or soaked in all sorts of rags, bandages, etc.and hung on the bushes.
Illustrations:
that's how we smeared it on the trunks
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here's what flew in (Catocala neonympha and Spaelotis ravida)
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Cirrhia gilvago:
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Scoliopteryx libatrix
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such a motley campaign could be observed by midnight:
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a bunch of cheering Spaelotis ravida:
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more scoops:
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catocals fly perfectly on these baits:
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What is characteristic is that butterflies that get drunk on this bait, then sit quietly, as if intoxicated, do not fly away, even if you touch them with your finger. They just crawl lazily from place to place. So collecting them is not problematic - you just need to substitute the stain and push the desired instance there.

This post was edited by Konung - 01.10.2010 18: 04
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23.11.2010 16:03, megasoma

maybe someone knows how to lure dung beetles if it is not possible to get manure for bait, please help

23.11.2010 16:52, Victor Titov

maybe someone knows how to lure dung beetles if there is no possibility to get manure for bait, please help

And there are not many options, and you have already been informed about all of them: fishing in the light (preferably not in a megalopolis smile.gif) or... look for manure (preferably in the pasture) and dig, dig wink.gif!

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 23.11.2010 16: 53

23.11.2010 20:26, Black Coleopter

maybe someone knows how to lure dung beetles if there is no possibility to get manure for bait, please help

Have you tried skatol???

23.11.2010 21:00, megasoma

and what is it tako

23.11.2010 21:01, megasoma

And how can it help in catching dung beetles

23.11.2010 21:36, Black Coleopter

Skatol (from the Greek skor, genitive case skatos — droppings, feces)
β-methylindole, colorless, with a disgusting smell crystals, tpl 95 °C, tKun 265 °C; insoluble in water, soluble in organic solvents. Highly diluted solutions of civets have a pleasant floral smell. C. is found in small amounts in coal tar and civet (the secretions of a civet cat — see fig. Viverra), formed from Tryptophan when proteins are broken down by putrefactive bacteria of the large intestine, causing the smell of feces (see Putrefaction).
Synthetic C. is obtained, for example, by heating phenylhydrazone propionic aldehyde C6H5NH-N=CHC2H5 with ZnCl2; it is used in perfumery (see also Indole).

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