Microscope for photography

What can I tell you?.. The main condition for a binocular is its convenience and price. To begin with, you can buy MBS 10, if you have money, you can buy a more expensive one. But it's not the binoculars that determine your skill. Many specialists work on old binoculars and this is not an insurmountable obstacle for them. Of course, you get used to good equipment quickly, but, again, equipment should not be an end in itself. And to deal with the taxonomy of ants, first of all, you need to study the literature, and first of all, these are the works of Gennady Mikhailovich Dlussky. So success

Thanks!
Here I read:
MBS 10
Magnification : 4.6 - 100.8 - from 4x to 100x, with a smooth transition?
Linear field of view, mm, within: 39-2.4 - the higher the multiplicity, the smaller the linear field of view?
Light source-PH8-20-1 (cold? I'm afraid not)
I would like to buy something that is extensible, but tasks and queries may change over time... Is it possible for him to buy objects, etc. and so on?
And most importantly-since this is NOT a trinocular, is photography possible?

Yes, thanks for Dlussky too, I read his "Ants of deserts and semi-deserts"
and even then the information is too foreign to me geographically, I live on the Arabian Peninsula.
In any case, you will have to read a lot, search for literature, definitions...
For example, I can distinguish camponotus from a reaper even from a distance of two meters, but to determine the appearance here is already not enough for one eye.
But take monomorium or pheidole so I feel 40x the most.
If I don't learn taxonomy myself , I'll take some photos and look through the glass
So the microscope is not an end in itself , but a necessary tool.
There is information with a determinant for messors, so it can't help me in any way, because as a blind person now...
And in test tubes, at least 4 types of reaper are already breeding the first larvae, soon there will be workers, and there are no names for them, but there is a desire to determine them yourself
for pheidole, there is a good determinant on antbase.

In general, in mbs 10, in my absolutely inexperienced opinion, I don't like only one thing - binoculars, what about the third eye for photos?
And maybe you can tell us some nuances that will help to understand the essence of the question "choose a microscope"?

P.S-C money is tight as always, but the miser pays twice

Magnification : 4.6 - 100.8 - from 4x to 100x, with a smooth transition?

No, with smooth - this is MBS-12.

And most importantly-since this is NOT a trinocular, is photography possible?

Photography is also possible with a monocular.
The MBS-10 is equipped with binoculars as standard. You can also buy an MFP (micro-photographic device) with a "third eye". However, all this is not of the highest quality.
I think that living in the Arabian Peninsula to get MBS will cost no less than the cost of the MBS itself.

No, with smooth - this is MBS-12.

Here is already an opinion more + new information.
Yes, mail delivery is expensive...
But on the other hand, there is such an expensive consumer goods here that buying "available goods" in the nearest store may not be cheaper.
In general, I started searching among domestic ones, as I will be in Moscow in the next half a month.

MBS-12:
The new development provides a continuous change in the magnification of the object under study without loss in resolution and can be interfaced with the most common TV and photo systems.

This is almost exactly what you need!
But something inside me screams-a trinocular!
Is it that important?

Another question
Altami TS Microscope
http://www.eltechmed.ru/microscopes/stereo/altamits.php

Can you help me compare it with the MBSs listed above?

Comrades, please do not hesitate!
Any information will be helpful.
Time is running out, and I still don't really understand the intricacies
of the magnifying technique.
Entomologists, can you tell us who uses what for the taxonomy?

...Any information will be provided...

If you are in Moscow, try to go to the office www.veber.ru, they sell Chinese MS-2 binoculars. And, by the way, the forum already has a thread somewhere with a discussion of various binoculars, look for it.

Thank you all for buying the MS-2 ZOOM trinocular.
True, I didn't find any eyepieces with attachments.
This is the quality of 40x, monomorium 2 mm


Do you think this will work for a taxonomy?

Haven't you been taught how to use Photoshop?
What do you mean by eyepiece with a nozzle?

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Thank you for photoshop, I'll download it and learn
There are replaceable eyepieces (5x, 10x, 15x, 20x) and nozzles-objects from 0.5 x to 2x as far as I understand.
but I have only 10x eyepieces, no attachments,
in general, zoom is our everything.

Buy more powerful eyepieces and magnifying nozzles or not, depends on the objects that you will observe. You have to pay for everything, the nozzles will reduce the focal length to the object, especially 2X, there is no such problem with eyepieces, but 20x, which Weber suggests for the MS-2 Zoom, is completely unsuitable (a tiny lens), 15x is quite usable. For large insects, the opposite is often necessary. reducing nozzle 0.5 X.
To get full-volume photos through binoculars, you need to remove a series of layers and glue them together in the Helicon Focus program.

A good and relatively inexpensive microphotography kit

-MBS-VP Microscope
-Adapter for Canon digital cameras

The cost of the kit was 31300 rubles, bought in St. Petersburg, from the site http://mikroskop-1.ru/mbs-vp.htm. The technique made a very good impression on me, I am extremely satisfied
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Here's my more budget-friendly option:
MBS 10
adapter in the form of a tube that is inserted instead of an eyepiece, on the one hand, and with a thread M 42-on the other
adapter M 42-Canon
carcass Sapop EOS 40 D
you can also add several rings (I use Kenko)
And the result is:

The main problem that I encountered is the very small depth of field of images (I shoot volumetric preparations), because you can't set the aperture on such a design! You can, of course, glue several layers together, but when you shoot a lot, this is not an option at all...

A good and relatively inexpensive microphotography kit

Could you please post the photos you received on this installation?

The question is relevant for me, because now I work on a Leica MZ 16, but the unit is "collective farm", and I want to buy something for "personal and undivided use".

I use binoculars of the company "Altami"
http://www.altami.ru/microscopes/stereo/pr...ami_ps0745.html
For such money, a good result.

Pictures:

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I use binoculars of the company "Altami"
http://www.altami.ru/microscopes/stereo/pr...ami_ps0745.html
For such money, a good result.

And for what money?
I opened the specified site and couldn't find it.
Still found it, sorry.

This post was edited by amara - 02/13/2011 09: 20

I use binoculars of the company "Altami"
http://www.altami.ru/microscopes/stereo/pr...ami_ps0745.html
For such money, a good result.

This binocular is one of a large number of Chinese models that are almost identical in appearance, but have completely different markings. I have one at work called JNOEC SZM-45. Proctos had almost the same one. In this price range, such binoculars are the best choice. The site, however, does not mention the similarity of the binocular with the MBS-12, also pankratic.

Question! No one can tell you if a ready-made sane solution for such a binocular with image output to the monitor is being sold?

I use binoculars of the company "Altami"
http://www.altami.ru/microscopes/stereo/pr...ami_ps0745.html
For such money, a good result.

vep, and how and what camera was shot? Isn't it possible that the field of view that falls on the image is much smaller than the field of view of the binocular?

There are a large number of cameras specifically designed for microscopes for any budget. I gave up on that. I use the Canon 620 soap dish, which has the ability to control and transfer to the computer. in real time. I use a 10x eyepiece instead of a photo eyepiece. I put 20x eyepieces on my eyes. I haven't tried to adapt the DSLR yet, because the one that I have (Nikon D70) can't be controlled from a computer, and vibrations from the mirror will get in. I use the PSRemout program, sew it in CombineZ.

There are a large number of cameras specifically designed for microscopes for any budget.

Yeah, we have a Canon PowerShot A630 under the trinocular, but... Either the camera isn't very good, or there's something wrong with me. The biggest (for me) problem is the lack of manual focus capability. I don't know how to shoot with such soap dishes

When using 20/10 eyepieces on the eyes and 10/23 as a photo-ocular, the field on the sensor is about 75%. I think to buy a 5x eyepiece, but so far the system suits me, with the exception of objects larger than 10 mm, but here you can also shoot with a camera. I also use a light microscope in both reflected and transmitted light, using 4x, 10x, and 20x lenses. I also use a 10x and 20x eyepiece for my eyes.

Yeah, we have a Canon PowerShot A630 under the trinocular, but... Either the camera isn't very good, or there's something wrong with me. The biggest (for me) problem is the lack of manual focus capability. I don't know how to shoot with such soap dishes

Unfortunately, this model (A630) does not support management from a computer (only 620 and 640 are close, I specifically searched for them). Many others have this function blocked. And to shoot without seeing the real picture on the computer is very difficult.

This binocular is one of a large number of Chinese models that are almost identical in appearance, but have completely different markings. I have one at work called JNOEC SZM-45. Proctos had almost the same one. In this price range, such binoculars are the best choice. The site, however, does not mention the similarity of the binocular with the MBS-12, also pankratic.

Question! No one can tell you if a ready-made sane solution for such a binocular with image output to the monitor is being sold?

According to my research, the founder of all this Chinese optics is the Chinese company LEAD-Optical
http://www.leadmicroscope.com/szm%20series.htm
which rivets different microscopes, and all the others put their own nameplate on them with the company name.

Do you have manual or auto focus?

Do you have manual or auto focus?

I set the focus manually, because I shoot several layers (from 5 to 20)
Actually, that's how we live

This post was edited by vep-13.02.2011 11: 55

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This binocular is one of a large number of Chinese models that are almost identical in appearance, but have completely different markings.

A similar feeling. A colleague in the next office has a Chinese microscope " micromed MS of some kind (I don't remember the number)" - it looks similar, I suspect that the optics are the same. The microscope comes with an extensive set of devices for photo / video/computer output. Everything works very well, but for me it is almost unusable due to the small field of view. An object larger than 2-3 cm cannot fit entirely in the field of view.

A similar feeling. A colleague in the next office has a Chinese microscope " micromed MS of some kind (I don't remember the number)" - it looks similar, I suspect that the optics are the same. The microscope comes with an extensive set of devices for photo / video/computer output. Everything works very well, but for me it is almost unusable due to the small field of view. An object larger than 2-3 cm cannot fit entirely in the field of view.

You can also put an additional object (lens) 0.5 x field of vision will increase by 2 times.

Unfortunately, this model (A630) does not support management from a computer (only 620 and 640 are close, I specifically searched for them). Many others have this function blocked. And to shoot without seeing the real picture on the computer is very difficult.

On the Internet, there are programs to unlock such functions, they fit on the map. But everything is quite hemorrhoid.

You can also put an additional object (lens) 0.5 x field of vision will increase by 2 times.

If we talk about the microscope that I saw, then 2 times will not save. Yes, and the quality of additional lenses degrade.

What is the field of view of your microscope?

to vep:

And on the binocular-trinocular (on the left), the nozzle under the camera is homemade (sorry if I missed something)?

Yes, yes, and do you have any non-standard upper oblique lighting devices?

By the way, we have non-standard lamps in our lab. We bought two gooseneck LED lamps in the supermarket, similar to vep's, (price - 10 tanks one in terms), very good. Look in stores and departments with table lamps.

Nothing that I don't vep?

Is it okay that I'm not a vep?

This is even better!

Valentine, we are talking about our own, about the girl's, flood

Yes, I took it from Ikea
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/70123682
They have the ability to put other lenses to narrow the light beam.

Valentine, we are talking about our own, about the girl's, flood  

Well, well...

If we talk about the microscope that I saw, then 2 times will not save. Yes, and the quality of additional lenses degrade.

What is the field of view of your microscope?

The visible field at 20/10 eyepieces is from 2.5 to 15 mm, on the matrix-from 2 to 12 mm (diameter).

This post was edited by vep-13.02.2011 19: 46

to vep:

And on the binocular-trinocular (on the left), the nozzle under the camera is homemade (sorry if I missed something)?

Yes, both of them are made from old Zenit rings (at least they fit for something)

Having decided to step up the work on photofeeding on our trinocular, I poked around on the Internet in search of computer-controlled cameras. With indignation, I saw that Canon removed this function from the compact cameras, i.e. the last supporting ones were G 7, 9 and 10 ... People, tell me, is there anything else similar NOW?