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27.02.2012 21:01, Bad Den

Maybe this is purely Crimean specifics, but in our slates all the legs will immediately be punctured, I tried to wear it, but it turned out to be very uncomfortable, and on scree and stone piles you can't walk freely in them at all. I always wear berets or boots - you can go anywhere, step on anything without ironing - my feet always remain intact, and stones and dry spikelets practically do not get inside. I don't wear shorts either, just trousers. Nettles, prickly shrubs, etc. In addition, moisture loss increases in shorts, which for me, for example, is very sensitive.

I'm thinking of replacing the usual high-top boots with something from this set.
The only problem is that there aren't enough reviews
http://www.copshoes.com/c-jungle-boots.html

27.02.2012 21:09, Wild Yuri

Slates are not shoes for serious hiking. I prefer galoshes to slates when camping. Protect from dew and prickly grass.

For hiking on the roads-quite. Slow ones, with catching butterflies. Just like in Primorye. Here in sneakers there for...you need to take off your shoes to cross streams, sometimes every hundred meters. Or when you walk along the rocky riverbed, crossing it every now and then (every third excursion). An even more convenient option is trekking sandals. I switched to them in the last two years. It is more convenient to run after a butterfly. In shales, this speed is not obtained. Yes, and when "running" into the forest, you do not need to think about where to put your foot. Yes, I got too excited: slates are the second number, the first is light sandals. smile.gif In Primorye and some other regions.

27.02.2012 21:26, Wild Yuri

At the same time, pigment cells – melanocytes in the body of red-haired people produce in parallel and another substance, under the influence of sunlight causing the development of skin inflammation.

In Primorye, you walk mostly on forest roads - the light is diffused, it's not easy to get burned. And even get a tan. frown.gif

27.02.2012 21:32, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

In the tropics, I always wore cheap sneakers. The cheapest ones, just made of fabric. Lightweight, quick to get wet, quick to dry.
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Peru, 2008.

Last year I tried crocs for the first time - perfect shoes for the tropics. Light, but at the same time protect the leg. In the forest, they dress, of course, only on shoe covers.
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Vietnam, 2011.

27.02.2012 21:45, Black Coleopter

And what material is needed for trousers so that at +35C +40C it is not hot?

Cotton.

27.02.2012 22:01, Wild Yuri

A story about shoes. Two Japanese people came to me in Primorye for butterflies. I wrote to them: take your sandals, because in some places there are many streams, and you are in favor... you suffer from taking off your shoes every now and then, for their transition. The sandals didn't arrive. The Japanese are used to working hard, and taking off their shoes 20-30 times a day, apparently, seemed like a small thing to them. Let's go fishing. I crossed the stream in my sandals. The Japanese took off their shoes... They click through. My feet hurt from stones, they wince... They put on their shoes. I've already caught five butterflies. Are going. Another stream. They take off their shoes... I keep fishing. The third stream... One Japanese man froze and looked like a kamikaze doing banzai-in sneakers into the water! The other man paused and followed. So they crossed the streams without taking off their shoes. The day in wet sneakers didn't seem like much to them. They ask, " Yuri-san, where can I buy sandals like yours?" Uh, I said it's about two hours away. "Let's go." Well, we went. They bought Chinese Velcro sandals. They were used for the rest of the tour. They even took it away with them... smile.gif

27.02.2012 22:12, Black Coleopter

Slates are not shoes for serious hiking. I prefer galoshes to slates when camping. Protect from dew and prickly grass.

Better kirzachi or berets. I've already talked about this before.

27.02.2012 22:14, Hierophis

Black Coleopter, the cotton fabric(I only found out today by the way that those trousers that I wore to replace the past ones are made of cotton smile.gif) has one joke - seeds are collected on it! At least take it and study the variety of seeds that have a similar distribution strategy from these collections. smile.gif
And everything is lazy in them-hot, even if the fabric is thin!

Here on those trousers that were equal-nothing stuck!

27.02.2012 22:20, Hierophis

Well, you and extreme smile.gifathletes Sandals, kirzachi, berets ))) Summer leather shoes are best! Sneakers do not steer, they are hot and seeds fall asleep!

27.02.2012 22:28, Victor Gazanchidis

For mountainous terrain, rocky soils and deserts, trekking sneakers/boots made of gortex are ideal. The foot does not sweat up to + 35, rigidly hold the ankle and protect it from stones, plus do not get wet for up to 5-10 minutes when in contact with water, for example, when wading streams. Berets are also nothing. In the tropics, they usually go in short rubber boots, because the roads are very dirty and they are convenient to wash later.
Thick cotton trousers - cool in the heat, do not tear in prickly bushes ,suitable for mountains, tropics and deserts. Where there is a lot of sun, I wear long-sleeve shirts made of a special fabric that reflects ultraviolet light.
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27.02.2012 22:33, Wild Yuri

The argument is about nothing. Each region has its own shoes. Even for every locality. Therefore, the question should be put like this: what shoes are most suitable for fishing in the Altai? Pamir? In Primorye? The Amazon jungle? And so on. Somewhere you need to take two versions of shoes. In the same Primorye region on the plain, it is better to walk in sandals (see above), and in the Sikhote-Alin Mountains, where there are rocks and stone placers, sneakers are still better suited. In swampy places, maybe even boots. It depends on where you're going. Under this and pick up shoes!

27.02.2012 22:47, Victor Gazanchidis

Why the dispute? Everyone shares what they use for different conditions. This is also the subject title.

27.02.2012 22:50, Hierophis

This is all understandable, but in sandals, in my humble opinion, or even more so in flip-flops, you need to walk in thunder, and in conditions close to household )))
I imagine going on a hike in sandals, and if the strap comes off smile.gif

By the way, there is almost no discussion of bike rides here! smile.gifPersonally, I choose the classic version of the bike - an excellent result without overpayments! High fault tolerance, it's not a pity to throw it anywhere - I really do it, and no problems. And leave the bike type "mountain", even from cheap-just move away, and then out of nowhere-the orcs will appear and roll away! How many such stories were there. And Ukraine-rules! )

My biggest record is about 100 km per day, from sunrise to sunset, although I was a little tired at the same time, so to speaksmile.gif, I decided to ride a bike to the sea )))) It was especially cool to go back, not, well, I suspected something when I went "there", it was very easy to go, I already thought that riding such distances was garbage! And here's back, oh oh oh...

Well, usually about 50 km a day is a distance that does not tire me.
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27.02.2012 23:10, Victor Gazanchidis

I drove a maximum of 60. I can't say it's light, but I'm not particularly tired either. But my son was with me for 12 years, he didn't even notice that we rewound so much. Eh molodost ... smile.gif
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27.02.2012 23:23, Hierophis

Eh, earlier in school days I could sit on a fishing trip from 4 am to 8 pm, and so on - almost a week in a row, and drive the ball from morning to evening, eh )) With age, the energy is somehow not distributed as it should be, it seems and vice versa should be-more, higher, stronger, oga, schazzz smile.gif

I also made a folding bike from a folding one, only reduced the frame and forks to the maximum, so that you can carry it in a minibus on your knees, but the weight is certainly still large, I don't know exactly how much, but you can't really carry it in your hand.
This is for "landing" at longer distances, I have already experienced it in practice, assembly and disassembly are somewhat inconvenient, and in general-the bike somewhat restricts freedom in hilly terrain, in general, it is suitable to arrive at a specific place on the road, or for a cursory reconnaissance.

27.02.2012 23:29, niyaz

Bicycles also have their own difficulties. Spare cameras need to have with you and kachek. And last season, once, when I went fishing, the rear derailleur holder (in common parlance "rooster") was broken in half, so I had to go back 20 kilometers on foot + a spoiled mood.

28.02.2012 0:04, Hierophis

That's why I prefer the option without switching gears!
As for spare cameras, this is not critical, as well as in general a lot of equipment in terms of weight when cycling-after all, this is not to carry on a hump wink.gifAnd you can do without a camera - I have traveled this way how many times - if the camera has burst, even very thoroughly - it is tied up to the point of rupture with a tight rope, inflated- and go ahead!! smile.gif))) Of course, there is a small effect of riding a horse, to smooth it out, you need to fill the empty space with grass )
I did this if the camera was literally cut open. If there is a hole, then there are a lot of ways to fix it without having any repair kits at all.
I do not remember in all my many years of practice that the bike had to be rolled over long distances.

Once there was such a case - the camera on the rear wheel was torn. I don't have a spare one, so it's impossible to link them.
I moved the camera from the front wheel to the rear, since the rear wheel has the biggest load, and I filled the front wheel with grass. And arrived happily approx. 8km to the house-it's better to go badly than to go well )))

28.02.2012 0:22, okoem

the rear derailleur holder (in the common people "rooster") was broken in half, so I had to walk 20 kilometers back + a spoiled mood.

So either very unlucky, or a poor-quality holder. I use only high-quality equipment, I have already driven more than 20,000 km, and nothing has ever broken. Punctures don't count. Most punctures can be immediately sealed in 15-20 minutes. It never came to using a spare tire.

28.02.2012 0:41, Wild Yuri

This is all understandable, but in sandals, in my humble opinion, or even more so in flip-flops, you need to walk in thunder, and in conditions close to household )))

You may have missed my story about the Japanese on the previous page. And there were a lot of such tourists in my memory. Who walked in wet sneakers, instead of walking in quick-drying sandals. Not the "Soviet type". Lungs. Sports events.
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28.02.2012 0:46, Hierophis

High-quality, not high-quality - this is all nonsense by and large. There is no reception against scrap, so fault tolerance depends very much on what is related to the bike.

I do not spoil my bike, and this is an understatementwink.gif, I think in the modes in which I use it - the most sophisticated miner would have scattered nafik, but recently, in January, I lowered him from a 30-meter cliff under my own power during one bike ride, it was just too lazy to lower it normally, watering, and I feel sorry for myself - it's one thing to go down yourself, and another-with a great one ))) And what do you think? But nothing, then I sat down and went )))

In general, when something is oak, you don't think about it-grass, mud, crooked track, moat, all the same-go! I need to get off urgently - I jumped on the move - the bike went one way, you went the other, but I caught the snake)))

28.02.2012 0:51, Hierophis

You may have missed my story about the Japanese on the previous page. And there were a lot of such tourists in my memory. Who walked in wet sneakers, instead of walking in quick-drying sandals. Not the "Soviet type". Lungs. Sports events.

I didn't miss it! I wrote - it's better to have leather shoes then, they dry normally, or rather they don't get wet. And more reliable.

Maybe I don't understand something, but I imagine sandals like this

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and I can't imagine how you can walk normally in them)))

28.02.2012 1:05, okoem

High-quality, not high-quality - this is all nonsense by and large. There is no reception against scrap, so fault tolerance depends very much on what is related to the bike.

I lowered it from a 30 meter cliff under my own power,


If off a cliff - then, of course, any equipment can come to an end. smile.gif
The quality of the equipment is important if the bike is operated in normal mode, that is, you are sitting and driving.

28.02.2012 10:18, Bad Den

High-quality, not high-quality - this is all nonsense by and large. There is no reception against scrap, so fault tolerance depends very much on what is related to the bike.

I do not spoil my bike, and this is an understatementwink.gif, I think in the modes in which I use it - the most sophisticated miner would have scattered nafik, but recently, in January, I lowered him from a 30-meter cliff under my own power during one bike ride, it was just too lazy to lower it normally, watering, and I feel sorry for myself - it's one thing to go down yourself, and another-with a great one ))) And what do you think? But nothing, then I sat down and went )))

In general, when something is oak, you don't think about it-grass, mud, crooked track, moat, all the same-go! I need to get off urgently - I jumped on the move - the bike went one way, you went the other, but I caught the snake )))

Have you ever tried to hammer nails with a microscope?
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28.02.2012 12:32, Wild Yuri

  
Maybe I don't understand something, but I imagine sandals like
this and I can't imagine how you can walk normally in them )))

You are not paying attention to your messages. I wrote about trekking sandals. I attach a photo. I myself go in models like both on the left.

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28.02.2012 16:53, Сергуха

I'm thinking of replacing the usual high-top boots with something from this set.
The only problem is that there aren't enough reviews
http://www.copshoes.com/c-jungle-boots.html

from the link Belleville or Wellco
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28.02.2012 17:01, Wild Yuri

Another story on the topic of sandals. I spent an expedition in Yakutia about two years ago. I had two fellow travelers with me. In the winter, I wrote to them: take trekking sandals or at least Chinese "flip-flops" and shorts. You will have to walk 50 km through the valley of the stream, crossing it many times.
They didn't take either of them. One arrived in cool "impenetrable" and waterproof boots, the other-sneakers. I took my boots with me, though. Both of them are wearing pants. We followed the stream... The bed is rocky, in some places - just paving stones, you can go in sneakers, but here is a rock clip, and you need to cross the stream. I'm wearing shorts and hiking boots. Five steps, and on the other side. A friend in boots started fidgeting and throwing rocks to jump over them... The other sat down to put on his boots.
We crossed, and then there was even more water. The first rolled up his pants, took off his shoes (however, wet?) and I crossed barefoot, staggering, because the stones slipped under my bare foot, and you could fall. The second man walked confidently and cheerfully in his boots.
Further, with the addition of tributaries, the stream has increased even more. The first "staggers", walking through it barefoot, slips and almost falls with a backpack into the river. He soaks his rolled-up trousers, because they can't be "lifted" high, and the "sunset" is always descending. The second discovers that the water is greater than the height of the boots... Looking for workarounds. We're wasting time. I'm boiling inside. He takes off his shoes, rolls up his pants, and goes barefoot, too.
Three more times like this... They wipe their feet every time, so as not to put them wet in their shoes. There is no pace, and we obviously don't have time to get to the place on time. I can't stand it and explode: "Did I tell you to bring your sandals and shorts? Said. Now I've gone ahead, I'll be waiting for you in the clearing in 3 km." "Rode" there. Catching butterflies. About five minutes later, my friends show up. One in boots, the other in sneakers. Wet ones. They spat on taking off their shoes and changing their shoes, and began to "wander" the stream right in their shoes.
Then we picked up the pace, but one of the tourists rubbed his feet in wet shoes and almost caught a cold the next day. In sandals, the feet dry out quickly in the sun, while in wet shoes they remain wet and "cold". Plus wet pants...
They also suffered on other days, because the path often lay along the valleys of streams-each time they looked for fords or took off their shoes. Sometimes they took off their pants. One tried to walk in boots, but it is very difficult when it is long.
I have described this case in such detail because people often do not believe me when I say that such and such shoes are needed for this hike. Like "driving". We won't be able to jump over rocks or take off our shoes a couple of times." For some reason, they forget about rain and high water.
Sandals and shorts don't carry much weight. You should always take them when you have to hike in the valleys of streams or places where they often cross. I do not know the best clothes and shoes for such hikes.

This post was edited by Wild Yuri - 02/28/2012 17: 23
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28.02.2012 17:07, Wild Yuri

Photos from one of the expeditions. It was a chilly day, and I left my shorts at camp, hoping for the low water in the stream. I did not take trekking sandals that year, having decided to save 150 grams of weight (an extra 2 bags of buckwheat) and make do with slates. Quite managed. On a camping trip, he struggled, rolling up his pants. The creek valley often narrows, and only go through water, up to the knee and above. In the backpack - shoes, because we go to catch on scree, where other shoes are impossible. 4 km on the stream and-cool butterflies! smile.gif

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28.02.2012 17:08, kovyl

I go in an army ball and berets in any weather. Satisfied. Very cheap and practical option.
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28.02.2012 17:38, Wild Yuri

As for clothes, this is a matter of taste and even, perhaps, psychology. In the same region (Primorye), at the same temperature, I observed entomologists ' clothing options ranging from full body coverage (long-sleeved shirt, pants, and even a cap) to just swimming trunks and slates. To each - his own. I will only note that the ticks bit only the first ones. The second group found them in time and removed them from the body. smile.gif

28.02.2012 18:18, yurich

I go in an army ball and berets in any weather. Satisfied. Very cheap and practical option.

It's a little heavy in the berets.Especially when you need to trample more than one kilometer, and even run after butterflies, (I'm not talking about mountains).

28.02.2012 19:20, Hierophis

Have you ever tried to hammer nails with a microscope?

Heh, a strange comparison, the bike of the "classical school" - just easily withstands extreme situations, it is simply created for them-born in the USSR, as they say ))), and compare it with a microscope..
Although.. MBS-9, by the way, would be very good as a hammer, it has a solid weight, it was also born in the USSR, no matter how smile.gifI certainly did not hammer nails with it, but I regularly repair electronics with it, and frankly speaking, every time unpleasant sensations-
" this is a Microscope, you should look at the living world in it, and not to solder pieces of iron", eeeh )))


You are not paying attention to your messages. I wrote about trekking sandals. I attach a photo. I myself go in models like both on the left.

Well, well, you have sandals-this is a kind of synequenon of your hiking technique, you just get the impression-forget everything, but take the sandals! smile.gif
Although, after all, it became clear that yes, sandals are cool in such situations.
But they won't work for our reality.

By the way, probably an interesting question - what kind of knife should I take on hikes - the simplest, such as a penknife, or do I need to buy a superfirm "for squeezing" smile.gif
Hunting knives are difficult to consider, because if you are not a hunter, then it is too scary to carry on a hike without permission - our police take care of us smile.gif

28.02.2012 19:44, bober

Depending on what you think you should do with this knife,I carry up to 6 knives of different directions to the forest, including table knives, but I have 34 toko records on knives in my hunting ticket(well, I have a weakness for hardware). wink.gif

28.02.2012 20:20, Hierophis

Wow, no, well, I think this is already too much smile.gif
By the way, a good question is why I need a knife on a hike, personally I don't go on particularly long hikes, so I need a knife more when fishing, where I also like to go. Well, or po mushrooms smile.gif

In the campaign, mostly all sorts of small things, something to cut off, something to dig up. For food purposes-I think that a regular knife is more hygienic than a folding one.

28.02.2012 20:36, kovyl

It's a little heavy in the berets.Especially when you need to trample more than one kilometer, and even run after butterflies, (I'm not talking about mountains).

So it is. I'm talking about myself personally. Someone, maybe, it's hard to get up from the couch at all...

28.02.2012 20:43, bober

Wow, no, well, I think this is already too much smile.gif
By the way, a good question is why I need a knife on a hike, personally I don't go on particularly long hikes, so I need a knife more when fishing, where I also like to go. Well, or on the mushrooms smile.gif
I'm an ms in sports tourism so I know what I'm writing,I also have 2 trunks with me longing

28.02.2012 21:26, Wild Yuri

  
I'm an MS in sports tourism, so I know what I'm writing,I also take 2 barrels with me

You should go to Yakutia. Hares are like cockroaches! smile.gif

28.02.2012 21:52, niyaz

But the machete is necessary in the campaign unit or useless?

28.02.2012 21:59, Papaver

But the machete is necessary in the campaign unit or useless?

If you've done without it before , the answer is obvious.

28.02.2012 22:01, lepidopterolog

But the machete is necessary in the campaign unit or useless?

Depending on where you go, obviously smile.gif

28.02.2012 22:03, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

But the machete is necessary in the campaign unit or useless?


I think it won't hurt, just like a samurai sword (2 copies). - short and long), a kubi-kettlebell knife and a spear. To the latter, you can attach a net for catching insects in the crowns.
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