What entomological equipment do you use?

Damn, what a curious companion! Just the same correspondent of the magazine "I want to know everything"! And the definition of "factory" seems to be more suitable for girls than for boxes.

Yes, I use only pins from a non-model one, and even then when it is necessary to prick "in the body" (if the die is there, then there is "on the drum" -you can always change it). The rest is all homemade (I got used to it over the years and don't want to change it).

sucked out of your finger (in)survey.

Ultra-thin trolling?

Yeah. Nanotrolling. Or, most likely, onanotrolling.

Meanwhile, the Kulibins are leading so far

I advise everyone to ignore Dragonsbane and not respond to these delusional surveys.

I advise everyone to ignore Dragonsbane and not respond to these delusional surveys.

In this survey, there is a very correct item on this subject (the lowest one). I recommend that everyone check in there. All: I'm retiring for a day.

Colleagues, friends, comrades!
If you want to ignore the survey, you don't even need to open the thread and read it. But everyone persistently reads, writes their angry philippics and everyone declares-That's all, I'm leaving.
There are doctors here, let them make a diagnosis to everyone who has registered a post in the branch.
Personally, I think that if Sinyaev had asked this question, everyone would have answered in silence, and they would have rushed to argue about the quality of homemade and factory-made goods. Why is everyone smacking Dragonsban?

  
Personally, I think that if Sinyaev had asked this question, everyone would have answered in silence, and they would have rushed to argue about the quality of homemade and factory-made goods. Why is everyone smacking Dragonsban?

Maybe it's because some of the most intolerant forum members think anonymous is worse .....well, you know who...

And Sinyaev is not an anonymous person, but a very specific, well-known person who does not hide under a nickname, but signs his own name.

This post was edited by alex 2611-25.09.2010 12: 10

Colleagues, friends, comrades!
If you want to ignore the survey, you don't even need to open the thread and read it. But everyone persistently reads, writes their angry philippics and everyone declares-That's all, I'm leaving.
There are doctors here, let them make a diagnosis to everyone who has registered a post in the branch.
Personally, I think that if Sinyaev had asked this question, everyone would have answered in silence, and they would have rushed to argue about the quality of homemade and factory-made goods. Why is everyone smacking Dragonsban?

a strange anonymous person who asks strange provocative questions. There is a question for themselves-what is all this for?

And not to go to the topics is how? Like, here someone is littering, let's ignore it )) After all, everything is interesting for us to see and write everywhere )

And if suddenly someone does not use entomological equipment, in which of the suggested options should I give them my vote? I feel that the "Don't want to answer" option will win the poll Thus, the result of the survey will be completely unreliable. And, therefore, what was the point of starting it for anonymous? Now, if he had revealed his name, he would not have behaved so confidently, even brazenly, I would say, because he would have been afraid. And the people would reach out to him… And if a person categorically does not want to reveal their name, it means that they are not in vain – they are very afraid of something. Or it's just a troll. There are no other options. Yes, damn, again on the forum it became fun with the appearance of another “extraordinary " person…

This post was edited by Ekos - 25.09.2010 12: 46

And where do I behave self-confidently and impudently, if you will allow me to be curious? And how will you feel if I reveal my name, and it turns out that you all know me very well, and in science I also managed to "inherit"quite well? No really, pipes. I will be anonymous, and you will be potentially ashamed that you are insulting someone who may be well-known and respected.

Anonymity is sometimes very useful. It allows you to quickly and easily find out how tolerant the community is. So far, I'm sorry, but you remind me more of a pack of dogs chasing after their leader on the one who can be devoured-just on the principle of "we are more, then we are stronger". Is this really the actual level of psychoemotional development of the average Russian entomologist? But it seems that the Russians say "Yes, at least call it a pot, but don't put it in the oven..."

This post was edited by Dragonsbane - 25.09.2010 13: 08

And how will you feel if I reveal my name, and it turns out that you all know me very well, and in science I also managed to "inherit" quite well?....

....It allows you to quickly and easily find out how tolerant the community is.

So, you are a famous scientist who decided to troll the entomological public. Why do you need it? There is a lot of free time, so you decided to have fun like this?
Your phrases fall under the essence of trolling. You are provoking forum participants, as you have indirectly admitted now.

So, you are a famous scientist who decided to troll the entomological public. Why do you need it? There is a lot of free time, so you decided to have fun like this?
Your phrases fall under the essence of trolling. You are provoking the forum participants, as you have indirectly admitted now.

God forbid anyone should be provoked into anything. I conduct the conversation in the key imposed on me, so to speak, but invariably "filtering my bazaar".

  

Anonymity is sometimes very useful. It allows you to quickly and easily find out how tolerant the community is. So far, I'm sorry, but you remind me more of a pack of dogs chasing after their leader on the one who can be devoured-just on the principle of "we are more, then we are stronger". Is this really the actual level of psychoemotional development of the average Russian entomologist? But it seems that the Russians say "Yes, at least call it a pot, but don't put it in the oven..."

It is not entirely clear what social tolerance has to do with this.
When a person I don't know suddenly starts asking questions about my income level, the normal response is "Uncle, are you a fool?"
I assure you, if you had said something sensible and interesting, the reaction would have been quite normal.
I wonder, by the way, who is the "leader" for which everyone rushed? Don't confuse anything?
Without any leaders, I am surprised by your aggression and a certain inadequacy.

There is no sign of aggression. And you can easily figure out the leader if you read the next topic. The last 2 pages.

People, and what to pay attention to the troll-let's just ignore him, do not react to his posts in any way, and he will leave on his own. Or they will understand that the forum is not a fludilnya and will adequately participate in its work and help its development.

  
There are doctors here, let them make a diagnosis to everyone who has registered a post in the branch.

Brother, you just checked in yourself!

Why is everyone smacking Dragonsban?

As I understand it, for the fact that he (in the form in which he decided to appear to the light) is superfluous at this celebration of life. . Whether we like it or not, whether someone likes it or not, there is a certain face-control on the forum. And no one can escape from this.

And how will you feel if I reveal my name, and it turns out that you all know me very well, and in science I also managed to "inherit"quite well? No really, pipes. I will be anonymous, and you will be potentially ashamed that you are insulting someone who may be well-known and respected.

No one here has insulted you. There was only a completely adequate response to your provocations. And the attitude to you (as well as to each of us) as a person does not depend at all on your (or anyone else's) track in science.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 25.09.2010 19: 14

No, Dmitrich. I had an adequate response to YOUR provocations. Let's take the flies separately, cutlets separately. And smaller stamps.

Dear Viktor Dmitrievich,
On the first point: since I myself registered on the branch, it means that I myself am not all right with my head. If it was healthy, it would pass by.
On the second point: This particular survey has nothing to do with the Dragonsbane image. You and I must understand that a person must be responsible for a particular act. There are branches about Parnassus, about earnings at the fair. If there Dragonsbane is wrong in your opinion, then you need to smack it there. What did he do wrong in this survey? Or now, wherever he poked his head out - a bullet in the forehead, and the whole pack at that? In my opinion, this is at least not beautiful and not fair.

There is no sign of aggression. And you can easily figure out the leader if you read the next topic. The last 2 pages.

Oh!
I haven't read the page, I don't know the leader, and for some reason the reaction is exactly the same as everyone else's.
Don't you think this is symptomatic?

I don't find it. Can you judge Napoleon without knowing his entire history?

  
On the second point: This particular survey has nothing to do with the Dragonsbane image. You and I must understand that a person must be responsible for a particular act. There are branches about Parnassus, about earnings at the fair. If there Dragonsbane is wrong in your opinion, then you need to smack it there. What did he do wrong in this survey? Or now, wherever he poked his head out - a bullet in the forehead, and the whole pack at that? In my opinion, this is at least not beautiful and not fair.

There is such a thing as reputation.
It is easy to lose, but difficult to gain again.

That's how it turns out. I lost my reputation . We need to look for it...

I don't find it. Can you judge Napoleon without knowing his entire history?

And Hitler? He, too, can be said to have not sprouted from a good life with his ideas.

I don't find it. Can you judge Napoleon without knowing his entire history?

If it's not a secret, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
If you really want to get answers to your questions, then it probably makes sense to understand that this is possible only if you are as friendly as possible to the interviewees. It is unlikely that your slightly veiled rudeness and demonstration of your superiority over other participants will allow you to get answers to your questions. The answers to these questions clearly don't interest you. What are you interested in? Do you want to gut it? It's a good job, no questions asked, but the author of the 10 euro butterfly spread was much more talented at it.

That's how it turns out. I lost my reputation . We need to look for it...

And you seem to position yourself as a smart and educated person... And such a "trifle" was not noticed...
Don't you see how many of the participants treat you?

See. That's what's so funny.

See. That's what's so funny.

Very different, sometimes unfamiliar people do not agree to treat you very well. Does it amuse you? Your Will. I would think about it in this situation. But I don't dare tell you who likes what.

The funny thing is not how they are treated. The funny thing is that this attitude is sucked out of their own posts. It can be considered that my experiment to find out the possibilities of collective zombification of people by themselves was a great success. You, gentlemen, can write more than one dissertation on psychoanalytics. Priceless material simply :D

The funny thing is not how they are treated. The funny thing is that this attitude is sucked out of their own posts. It can be considered that my experiment to find out the possibilities of collective zombification of people by themselves was a great success. You, gentlemen, can write more than one dissertation on psychoanalytics. Priceless material just :D

Ahh, so everything is clear with you

Ahh, so everything is clear with you

There is one caveat here... With me, not everything is as clear as you want

Colleagues, friends, comrades!
If you want to ignore the survey, you don't even need to open the thread and read it. But everyone persistently reads, writes their angry philippics and everyone declares-That's all, I'm leaving.

Well, I went to work for a day (I need money for a living, you know).

And if suddenly someone does not use entomological equipment, in which of the suggested options should I give them my vote? I feel that the "Don't want to answer" option will win the poll Thus, the result of the survey will be completely unreliable. And, therefore, what was the point of starting it for anonymous? Now, if he had revealed his name, he would not have behaved so confidently, even brazenly, I would say, because he would have been afraid. And the people would reach out to him… And if a person categorically does not want to reveal their name, it means that they are not in vain – they are very afraid of something. Or it's just a troll. There are no other options. Yes, damn, again on the forum it became fun with the appearance of another “extraordinary " person…

Hmm. On the forum there are massively dismissed participants who did not indicate their full name in their personal data.

The funny thing is that this attitude is sucked out of their own posts. It can be considered that my experiment to find out the possibilities of collective zombification of people by themselves was a great success. You, gentlemen, can write more than one dissertation on psychoanalytics. Priceless material just :D

You're a strange man. You ask questions, but the answers to these questions are not interesting to you at all.
It is interesting to conduct an experiment.
Well, the forum participants (despite your contemptuous attitude towards them) are not fools at all. They understand that you don't need answers, that you want to spend a little money, for some reason calling it an experiment. Well, they respond accordingly.

Hmm. On the forum there are massively dismissed participants who did not indicate their full name in their personal data.

I totally agree. But there is one strong BUT-they do not troll other forum participants! And here is undisguised trolling! And the person who is hiding under the nickname Dragonsbane, I figured out exactly for these reasons-let the country know its heroes. And who here massively respects the troll?!

This post was edited by Ekos - 26.09.2010 13: 35

I totally agree. But there is one strong BUT-they do not troll other forum participants! And here is undisguised trolling! And the person who is hiding under the nickname Dragonsbane, I figured out exactly for these reasons-let the country know its heroes. And who here massively respects the troll?!

Yeah, and thank God for that: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=419659 they removed it from here (it doesn't fit into any entomology at all).

The pins are factory-made, everything else is homemade.
A normal survey, no worse or better than surveys about entomological atlases or collection in series.

Pins are Japanese (the Soviet ones are almost over). Boxes - from IKEA or homemade (in the latter case-not from lack of money, but from the desire to make something with your own hands; I'm afraid that not only "intellectuals" will understand me). In everything else ("equipment"), I practically do not need (even a net, because I catch flies with my hands).
And again - . Indeed, a survey is like a survey ("no worse and no better[i]").