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tiger33, 17.04.2011 1:29

Hello! Recently I came across this forum,I have already read a lot.
Since childhood, he was interested in various insects and arthropods, caught them, collected them, and bred butterflies from caterpillars. Then, as they grew older, other pressing interests and problems naturally appeared.
Now, having come across your forum and especially seeing photos of beautiful collections, I decided to start collecting my own.
I am also interested in insects from an artistic point of view, so to speak. Since I am an artist and designer by profession, I find many interesting ideas in the shapes and colors of many insects(even not necessarily tropical ones) for future implementation in my projects.
and after reading in the forum topics about collecting insects and preparing them for the collection, several questions arose:

1) I am interested in the details of storing caught insects before they are unfolded - after all, it seems to me very easy to break off the foot of a dried beetle that has caught on the cotton of the mattress, etc.I am also very interested in the problem of parasites of the collection-kozheeds and others. What methods of dealing with them exist and what chemistry is better to use? I will most likely have to store the charges on mattresses and bags for a long time before they are spread out,I would like to know about the "pitfalls" of such storage.
2) The issue of capturing and storing hawkmoth. How is it better to catch it so that the hairline does not get frayed? And what is the best way to store it before unpacking?
I heard here the opinion that it is well stored in cotton wool. And also, does it require gutting and stuffing its belly with something to preserve its volume, or does it not lose it when it dries out?
3) Actually, the question is the same as about hawk moth-what insects may need stuffing to preserve a more natural look7

That's all for now. Thank you so much in advance! If anyone knows what sites with a detailed description of the techniques of catching and saving a captured person, please throw links at me.
I will start collecting a collection of commonplace things. now I'm interested in literally everything,but in terms of names and classification, knowledge is slightly higher than the school level so far)
Well let's slowly fill in the blanks

Comments

17.04.2011 9:02, AGG

on the forum everything is there-search and find wink.gif
1-matrasik/package / knocking out in a tightly closed box+antimol
2-it is better to bring smile.gifout the warhead unduly
3-grasshoppers/dragonflies, so as not to turn black, and T-shirts/cocoonworms/and more - just your vision of the beautiful
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=101629&st=6450#

17.04.2011 9:27, scarit

You can also read literature:
Kozlov M., Ninburg E. Your collection, Moscow, 1971,
Dyakov M. Yu. How to collect a collection of insects, Moscow, 1996,
Plavilshchikov N. N., Kuznetsov N. V. Collecting and making zoological collections, Moscow, 1952,
Marikovsky P. I. For a young entomologist, Moscow, 1978.
available on the site http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/school/sch-ru.htm

17.04.2011 9:52, Nikolaj Pichugin

Hello! Recently I came across this forum,I have already read a lot.
Since childhood, he was interested in various insects and arthropods, caught them, collected them, and bred butterflies from caterpillars. Then, as they grew older, other pressing interests and problems naturally appeared.
Now, having come across your forum and especially seeing photos of beautiful collections, I decided to start collecting my own.
I am also interested in insects from an artistic point of view, so to speak. Since I am an artist and designer by profession, I find many interesting ideas in the shapes and colors of many insects(even not necessarily tropical ones) for future implementation in my projects.
and after reading in the forum topics about collecting insects and preparing them for the collection, several questions arose:

It's nice to see a fellow countryman on the forum. Maxim, if you really dig through the forum sections, you can find everything here. And if you are interested in live communication, my phone number is 8 910 774 16 49.
Call us, it will be nice to meet you.

19.04.2011 12:43, tiger33

Thank you all for your answers!
But part of the questions still remained
1) before storing the same mattresses in an airtight container, do insects need to be dried or are they dried directly in the container? Is it necessary in this case to put in addition to antimoli any means of rotting/moldy?If yes then what7
2) After all, I haven't found any information about hawkmoths (I call all large moths and similar ones hawkmoths)))).
Here I saw in one branch a photo of two almost identical brazhnikos, but one has a normal abdomen and the other is deflated. Still, how to prevent it?
The downloaded books (by the way,the books of Dyakov and Kozlov are basically the same, even the pictures are the same) tell you how to fill a beetle with a T-shirt, but this is not suitable for butterflies with delicate pubescence. I also met on the forum mention of the method of injecting silicone into the abdomen, where can I find out the details and cons with the pros of this technology? In general, the question of this problem remained open.
3) About straight-winged birds, I read that they have almost no way to preserve their lifetime color, but they are stuffed again so that they do not deflate. Dragonflies are dipped in acetone to preserve their color.
and also, what methods of removing, for example, from a light trap and removing from a net are there so as not to spoil the pubescence? from the canvas immediately carefully into the stain?Or how?

AGG, I didn't understand what you wanted to say, referring to post 6450 in the "Fishing reports"branch

Nikolay Pichugin, I will definitely contact you!

19.04.2011 14:47, Pliss A

"1) before storing the same mattresses in an airtight container, do the insects need to be dried or are they dried directly in the container?"

Large moths with a thick belly should be dried in an open place (not in envelopes or a dark cabinet), otherwise they may lose their appearance, and when they dry out a little, they can be transferred to a container with mattresses.

"...and also, what methods of removing, for example, from a light trap and removing from a net are there so as not to spoil the pubescence? from the canvas immediately carefully into the stain?Or what?"

You can remove butterflies from the screen with the help of jars: carefully bring the jar from below to the insect sitting on the canvas, and close the lid on top.

"3) I read about straight-winged birds that they have almost no way to preserve their lifetime color..."

They need to be dried as quickly as possible.

19.04.2011 17:35, OEV

1) insects are laid out after freezing on mattresses, then dried for a while and only then put in a storage container

2) hawkmoth in my opinion is difficult to confuse with butterflies of other families!
study the signs of this family and compare them with others. Everything is simple.

3) If possible, before soaking the erect wings, it is necessary to hold them for several days in a jar with paper or a box to get excess moisture out of the insect.
Yes! from the canvas immediately carefully or how to get into the stain?when it comes to the shabbiness of the fur and wings, it depends on the strength of the poison, the shabbiness of the original one, and your experience.

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