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Бомка, 25.02.2021 14:41

Digital cameras are starting to die out.
Everything is very similar to how film cameras died out 15-20 years ago.
Small digital soap boxes are practically no longer needed by anyone...
People are switching to smartphones en masse.
The camera of a modern smartphone is quite enough for photographing biotopes,
and some smartphone models have macro lenses.
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I also got a smartphone with
a Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S macro lens (my wife gave it to me on Defender of the Fatherland Day).
And, of course, I tried it for macro photography ; -)
- - -
The main lens of the Redmi Note 9s
can produce frames either at 12 Mpx,
or in the " Pro " mode-at 48 Mpx (8000 x 6000).
And the macro lens is weak - only 5 Megapixels (2592 x 1944).
1.
Here's what a macro lens can do (beetle length = 3 cm, beetle distance ~2.5 cm):
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2. And crop from this picture.
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3.
For comparison, I will take a picture from the main lens at 48 Mpx
(up to the beetle ~10 cm) at the minimum focusing distance.
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4.
And crop this image at 48 Mpx.
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For those who want to dig into the source code,
you can download the original images here -
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/froc/mTQHVPRYp
and
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/zcGa/f9evsCReL

The post was edited by Bomka - 26.02.2021 03: 26

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25.02.2021 14:48, Бомка

Snapshots are not being added to the forum
, so I'll try adding them later.
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I will be very happy to see macro images from your smartphones.
On Facebook, I saw that even macrostacks are taken with smartphones
and get great results.

26.02.2021 7:24, rhopalocera.com

I'll be brief.
No smartphone can shoot better than a digital mirror. Never. Simply because the quality of shooting directly depends on the size of the pinhole camera. Therefore, shooting macro objects (and other objects) with a smartphone is a purely amateur activity, and they cannot achieve high-quality images. And the pictures posted above perfectly demonstrate this.

26.02.2021 7:57, Бомка

I'll be brief.

Stan, I just took pictures with my hands, even without a tripod.
But look how one guy uses an old smartphone to shoot macrostacks

26.02.2021 10:35, ИНО

26.02.2021 14:42, Бомка

 
for Bomka, with a lens, this is clearly not the case.
There would be a good lens from the microscope fit.

Yeah, the 9S's lenses are clearly plastic lenses.
I'm already thinking about different attachments and a tripod.
You can also make a software improvement - put Google Camera.

26.02.2021 18:02, ИНО

So it is correctly called not" three lenses", but "three cameras"! And they are there all three rhinestones are worth or are replaced, as in the photos of Rico?

The size of the matrices, except for the main one, of course does not please: much smaller than even in soap dishes. but smradphone matrices and image processors usually use the most advanced technologies.

26.02.2021 19:29, Hierophis

The pictures are of course super as for smarts, especially since the smart is always with you, and there are such cases that some bug is sitting on the wall of the store)) BUT, there is a nuance, I would like to see macro photos with such a smartphone in nature! The distance of 2.5 cm to the beetle in natural conditions, and that the beetle endured it, and to get through all sorts of plants and stones-this is from the area of exceptional cases.
I'm not talking about the osweep.gif, even a lazy and oak leaf will fly away at such distances) Cryptoheilus will fly away even at the moment when the smart will get out of the pant leg weep.gif
Unfortunately, manufacturers do not do in their macro projects for smart what is needed for shooting in nature-an extended distance while maintaining the scale umnik.gif

26.02.2021 22:22, ИНО

Shit Pan wrote, as usual. Different macros are needed, different macros are important-depending on the situation with the EFR from 30 mm and up to... And the fact that Pan can only take pictures of insects with an EFR under 200 mm is his purely personal problem. Short-focus lenses have two big advantages: first, they allow you to shoot with your hands at longer exposures, and second, with a small shooting distance, the edge of the frame is fashionable to rest on the substrate on which the insect is sitting or in the hand holding the plant on which it is sitting. This reduces the wiggle room (which, by the way, affects three-quarters of panov Shidevrov on any enemy sites) to almost zero.

Now about the OS. Indeed, there are such cowardly wasps that already fly away for two meters, but they are a minority. The same polysts on flowers, as a rule, can be safely photographed, as long as the lens is not reproached with a wasp. The same applies to most small fry, which Pan doesn't seem to notice at all, since there are almost no small wasp and bee species among his shiders. And for all this small stuff, short-focus lenses are much preferable.

27.02.2021 3:22, Бомка

I would like to see macro photos with such a smartphone in nature!

In about two months... wink.gif

So it is correctly called not" three lenses", but "three cameras"!

Yes, thanks for the correction.

27.02.2021 5:32, ИНО

And what kind of animal is a" depth sensor"?

27.02.2021 13:07, Бомка

And what kind of animal is a" depth sensor"?

Here b/m is a normal explanation:
What is a depth sensor on a smartphone?

Today I tried to take a picture of the wasp Vespula germanica (Fabricius, 1793)
on the "Smartphone + macro lens on a clothespin":
1.
A clothespin with a macro lens for a smartphone -
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2.
Frame on the main lens (48Mpx) + macro lens -
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3.100
% crop of this image
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4. And another portrait of a wasp from another frame "with a macro-chip":
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This post was edited by Bomka - 02/27/2021 13: 27

27.02.2021 17:41, ИНО

Thank you for the interesting reading. What tricks do not go smradphone manufacturers to compensate for the tiny size of the matrices! Some kind of artificial blurring was invented with the help of neural weep.gifnetworks. Fortunately, this is not necessary in macro photography, but it is completely unnecessary. But you definitely shouldn't shoot portraits on a smudphone, even if it has at least 10 cameras.

This lynza on a clothespin is absolutely necessary to throw out, it spoils the energy of the apartment smile.gif

And yes, without being able to control the ISO manually, you can only shoot macro shots in very bright light. Here, the ISO clearly flew into the sky and the terrible shmodawing ruined everything.

The message was edited INO-02/27/2021 17: 43

28.02.2021 5:33, Бомка

This Lynza on a clothespin is absolutely necessary to throw out...
...not being able to control the ISO manually

Already. wink.gif
And the ISO can be changed manually in the "Pro" mode.

01.03.2021 15:06, rhopalocera.com

I'll be even more brief: maybe! But only if there is a G. lens on the DSLR, or it is in the hands of H. fotogrofsmile.gif. In fact, smartphones have the same advantages as digital cameras: lenses with a large focal range are included (in some models). They behave especially well on a wide angle (in many cases it is the only one) - the quality is quite comparable to the same vaunted flexogons on APS-C.

As for the macro, the example of Bomki alas. as here one svidolmyy pan often expresses, not uh-huh. It is especially noticeable in the drops. But this is the lens ' fault. With the usual high-quality lens (such as those that stand on smartphones and galaxies) and a high-quality macro attachment, the result will be much better.
Well, if you are shooting a birthmark on it, then probably yeslol.gif, but if there is a lens and a matrix, then this is not so clear. because a small lens and a small matrix can be made using other, much more advanced technologies than a large lens and a large matrix for a comparable price. The bonus is a large GRP at large apertures (and this more than compensates for the poor high ISO and low diffraction threshold). But this is clearly not the case for a Bomka with a lens. There would be a good lens from the microscope fit. But, probably, it can not be installed without confusing the brains of the gadget.

But really doomed to an early almost complete extinction, so it is precisely digital mirrors. Of course, smradfony them too crowded, but only in the hands of glamorous fif. In the hands of photographers, mirrorless cameras crowd them. A big advantage of their latest models is a fully electronic shutter=rate of fire+noiselessness+eternal life. Of course, you can also put this one in a DSLR, view live view, add EVIE, throw out the mirror, but oh, this will turn out to be a mirrorless one lol.gif

And how are these different pixels for different objects? do they change along with the matrix?



a pinhole camera is an optical principle for constructing images. one of the laws of physics that cannot be circumvented. the smaller its size, the less light falls on the matrix. and it is he who draws, my dear. light. hence the name-photo (light) graph (pis).

01.03.2021 15:34, ИНО

I'm terribly sorry, but you're wrong. A pinhole camera is a simple box with a hole in one wall, without lenses. The principle with the camera, of course, is similar (even sometimes pinhole lenses are still used), but still the terms should not be confused. And the size of what exactly are you talking about? The apertures, the image surfaces, the contents of that whole dark box? From the context, I will assume that apertures, although from the phrase itself it may well seem that the larger and blacker the BCH, the better smile.gifSo, if we are still talking about the aperture, then a large aperture in macro photography is not the best idea for many reasons.

05.03.2021 18:29, Бомка

A little "about the difference" between smartphone sensors -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsFt4ak4_s

13.03.2021 15:02, Бомка

Our garage spiders are still in diapause.
I took a picture of one small/long-legged guy who was sitting on the door jamb
of the 5-Mpx makrik Redmi Note 9S using the trCamera program (version 7.4):

Entire frame (reduced) -
user posted image

Crop 100% -

06.05.2021 6:09, Бомка

Got out on May 4, 2021 in the Angara steppe, here:
N52°40,5870'E104
°35,6090'

Photos taken by the Redmi Note 9S smartphone below:
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Kuda Valley
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Kapsala Mountains natural area
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Stemless cinquefoil-Potentilla acaulis L.
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Red Book Gueldenstaedtia verna (Georgi) Boriss.
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The post was edited by Bomka - 06.05.2021 06: 24

06.05.2021 6:10, Бомка

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Weevil Stephanocleonus sp.
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Turczaninov's lumbago-Pulsatilla turczaninovi Krylov et Serg.
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There were bees, butterflies, and flies, too, but... they didn't want to pose for the smartphone wink.gif

06.05.2021 18:55, ИНО

Something macro lens on the edges is creepy, like Intusstar-104. And the resolution (probably due to the small matrix) is even worse. No, it's too early to bury photos smile.gifAnd the entot device-to sacrifice Ezhinam mol.gif

And the landscapes are normally so wide-angle.

The post was edited by ENO-05/06/2021 18: 58

07.05.2021 5:18, Бомка

And the landscapes are normally so wide-angle.

Well, at least don't carry a shirik with beer.gifyou

19.05.2021 15:12, Бомка

I photographed soil larvae with a 5-megapixel macro
lens in Irkutsk and the surrounding area:

1. Rhinos
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2. Bronzki
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21.06.2021 13:51, AVA

With these professional video cameras https://arstek.ru/product/byudzhetnye-kamery/ you can study the microcosm with special care, and in particular you can see the smallest insects in all the smallest details.

Don't you know that it would be a good idea to add a "professional" stereo microscope to these cameras, as well as a stitching program? And what will all this lead to, did you think?

23.06.2021 15:09, ИНО

Bots can't think.

05.08.2022 10:34, Бомка

I don't see any point in creating a new theme, so I'll add it here.
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I bought my father an Andonstar AD407 Digital microscope on Ali Express.
picture: 899_n.jpg

A great thing for viewing butterflies and beetles in bags and on cotton mattresses.
The 4-megapixel sensor allows you to take photos and videos.
7-inch LCD screen and backlight: two bright LEDs on "flexible legs" .

06.08.2022 17:15, Бомка

I bought my father an Andonstar AD407 Digital microscope on Ali Express.
picture: 899_n.jpg

Another addition:
The Andonstar AD407 digital microscope has an optical magnification from 5.5 x to 14x.
You can add digital zoom-zoom x2 (although the monitor will display x3. 0), but do not believe

07.08.2022 2:01, ИНО

Bomka, can you take a look at the image of this miracle of Chinese technology (not re-shot from the screen)?

Flint Feints is not a dude, but an evil fat troll, don't feed him! It is better to report to the moderator if the personal account works (I don't).

11.08.2022 9:59, Kiseliov

Mmmdaa, what a mess you've made here, dear...
Well, come on, it's a matter of everyday life, cute scolding, just amused)
I'm here for what reason, I updated myself another kitayphone, this time I took a Xiaomi Redmi laptop 10 pro, the supermacro mode was very pleasantly hidden in the camera settings...quite a passable quality, of course there are difficulties with the focus, but in general, the norms.

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11.08.2022 20:17, ИНО

How cute are they? Then a fat troll came along. and moderators don't catch mice.

The photos are quite good, although in some places the grain is very unpleasant, it seems that the ISO is picking up. But what is good about Android - you can install a third-party camera module with such post-processing as your heart desires (although without it at all - with RAW output). The main thing is that the optics pulls such a scale.

I now have an ancient ancestor of your ketyphone, Redmi 3s, so there is MDF 15 centimeters, despite the fact that the angle is very wide - the scale turns out to be no. But the sharpness is not bad, so if there is an urgent need to capture something not very small in the absence of a normal camera at hand, then you can use it.

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Makronasadku b it still adapt...

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26.07.2023 13:04, Cassi

Only Redmi Note 9 series has the best Macro lens and gives full control over it like manual focus, ISO, shutter speed, in pro mode.

Here's are some pics i captured using my Redmi Note 9 Pro maco camera..

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Recently i bought Samsung A73 which also has Macro len. But it's nothing compared to the Redmi Note 9 Pro's macro camera. I feel like I wasted my money on this smartphone.

This post was edited by Cassi - 26.07.2023 13: 07

27.07.2023 23:19, pierrevanstulov

Another addition:
The Andonstar AD407 digital microscope has an optical magnification from 5.5 x to 14x.
You can add digital zoom-zoom x2 (although the monitor will display x3. 0), but do not believe

06.08.2023 17:05, ИНО

Only Redmi Note 9 series has the best Macro lens and gives full control over it like manual focus, ISO, shutter speed, in pro mode.


Cloudy - looks like grease from fingers on the lens. For some reason, no smartphone manufacturer wants to build a protective shutter into the case.

13.11.2023 12:46, LordSweeper

Cloudy - looks like grease from fingers on the lens. For some reason, no smartphone manufacturer wants to build a protective shutter into the case.


Yup. I also think there is something on the lens.

16.11.2023 10:26, Tivanik

Redmi Note 10 Pro

picture: IMG_20230918_101421_proc.jpg

16.11.2023 11:51, ИНО

The optics are excellent, but you can see that the ISO is pulled up to the sky. Probably, it was necessary to manually set the minimum.

16.11.2023 12:35, Tivanik

In this case, ISO 50, where EXIF is saved. It's just that the matrix in this macromodule is small.

The post was edited by Tivanik - 16.11.2023 12: 41

16.11.2023 12:37, Tivanik

In this case, ISO 50, where the EXIF is saved


By the way, this photo shows two stinging nettle hairs.

The post was edited by Tivanik - 11/16/2023 12: 38

16.11.2023 18:11, ИНО

Small - what is it? Even for measuring 1/2. 5" with this ISO, the background seems noisy and the "watercolor" goes off scale. Or is it not a whole frame, but a crop?

16.11.2023 20:18, Guest

Small - what is it? Even for measuring 1/2. 5" with this ISO, the background seems noisy and the "watercolor" goes off scale. Or is it not a whole frame, but a crop?

Extra Small
5 MP Sensor: 1/5", Omnivision OV5675
This is Crop 1:1

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