Lamiinae, Cerambycidae

Lamia textor, in principle, the beetle is not so rare. It's just that the way of life is such that it doesn't often catch the eye. And so in suitable biotopes to search-will definitely be found.

So what I mean is: the only biotope I know has burned out (which is a shame).

So what I mean is: the only biotope I know has burned out (which is a shame).

Well, in the Moscow region, there are plenty of biotopes suitable for Lamia textor

Well, in the Moscow region, there are plenty of biotopes suitable for Lamia textor

I agree (I know such places myself, presumably), but how to catch something, can you tell me some traps? (I really want to collect it).

I won't say anything about traps, I didn't use them to collect these beetles. But I think they can get into soil traps (dug-in glasses) in suitable willows. I collected Lamia myself by manual collection. By the way, we have this sawyere found in the same place where there is musk (although this is easier-it happens in bulk on umbrella ones).

I agree (I know such places myself, presumably), but how to catch something, can you tell me some traps? (I really want to collect it).

Vasily, but an ordinary beetle. I collect barbels not purposefully, but only what catches my eye, and still I have about a dozen of these barbels. And five copies from the territory of St. Petersburg. Thickets of willow-aspen with the presence of old trees and all. City parks, forest belts along railways. Found mainly on the ground next to old willows worn Aromia moschata. Can the truth try to put soil traps in such places?

I won't say anything about traps, I didn't use them to collect these beetles. But I think they can get into soil traps (dug-in glasses) in suitable willows. I collected Lamia myself by manual collection. By the way, we have this sawyere found in the same place where there is musk (although this is easier-it happens in bulk on umbrella ones).

Thank you, Victor! I'll look for it. By the way: A. moschata has already "set my teeth on edge" myself.

Lamia textor, in principle, the beetle is not so rare. It's just that the way of life is such that it doesn't often catch the eye. And so in suitable biotopes to search-will definitely be found.

Well, if you get to the fresh cutting of k-thread under Shatura, it is not uncommon..and so the fic will see

Well, if you get to the fresh cutting of k-thread under Shatura, it is not uncommon..and so you'll see the fic

Well, let's get there!!!

Well, let's get there!!!

Yavashcheto beetles evenly breathe. This is me A.Elez nudged me with his nose, saying, " Watch how much." And there, indeed, in the field of view on old felled trunks near a new clearing, in the sun in the field of view, 3-4 specimens at once and in an attempt to mate.. well, Elez will correct me if I made a mistake with the definition.

Yavashcheto beetles evenly breathe. This is me A.Elez nudged me with his nose, saying, " Watch how much." And there, indeed, in the field of view on old felled trunks near a new clearing, in the sun in the field of view, 3-4 specimens at once and in an attempt to mate.. well, Elez will correct me if I made a mistake with the definition.

So there (in the same place before the fire) of butterflies I found: Proserpinus proserpina and Rhyparia purpurata (example)"it's gone now!!!

So there (in the same place before the fire) of butterflies I found: Proserpinus proserpina and Rhyparia purpurata (example)"it's gone now!!!

Yes, Proserpine is invincible...

It's a pity that you can't write reprises for outright stinginess in this forum..Forum naaaauchny sooooo sorry ((((I'm talking about paratypes

lamias fall into glasses. I don't know about the old willows, it probably should be, but the felled stumps that continue to sprout definitely come across (in short, where they are, there is a chance of getting into the glass) - I saw Nikitsky's glasses (although then he didn't get them, but he said that in past years at least a couple of yes were)

Lamia textor, in principle, the beetle is not so rare. It's just that the way of life is such that it doesn't often catch the eye. And so in suitable biotopes to search-will definitely be found.

Well, if you get to the fresh cutting of k-thread under Shatura, it is not uncommon..and so you'll see the fic

This is, first of all, if you get there. And secondly-you still need to manage to find a fresh cutting of old willows or aspens in the rather coniferous Shatursky district (??). On pine clearings, it is better to look for someone more pine-loving. You can, however, find in the Shatursky district (as in any other) felled very elderly aspens after clearing the exclusion zone along the railway track, but I did not come across anything at all on such aspens.

Yavashcheto beetles evenly breathe. This is me A.Elez nudged me with his nose, saying, " Watch how much." And there, indeed, in the field of view on old felled trunks near a new clearing, in the sun in the field of view, 3-4 specimens at once and in an attempt to mate.. well, Elez will correct me if I made a mistake with the definition.

Yes, what to correct? Almost everything is correct. Just for clarity, I will say that attempts at a single pairing of 4 copies at once. not marked by me. And I remember that we were not at all in the Shatursky district at that time, but in the Ruzsky district, i.e. exactly on the other side of Moscow. If it comes to that, there were some monohamuses at all, lamias on those spruce (!) logs didn't even smell... (Lamia textor for some reason is almost not found at all; only two finds are on hard memory, but, of course, not on cutting down old fir trees, which we examined in the Ruza district)... And the rest seems to be all correct.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 12.01.2010 09: 06

I started with the fact that every entomologist (botanist, zoologist) is always an ecologist at heart. And looking at this heart bleeds! I will "declassify" my 2 points of finds of L. textor (before the fire there were still a lot of things there), and now "scorched earth". The most interesting thing is that it burned all summer of 2002 and not a single fire truck-solid timber trucks (see someone" dough " on this cooked pretty bad).

Pictures:

Lamia_textor.jpg — (260.62к)

There was nothing burning near me. just the power of the northern CHPP was increased and the entire power line clearing on Biberevo was dug up, changing the supports. Well, everything disappeared. And there were a lot of things, including the gorgeous Alexis population. Drained the lakes (puddles) and dispar disappeared. In short, a spit in the face turned out to be gorgeous.

I started with the fact that every entomologist (botanist, zoologist) is always an ecologist at heart. And looking at this heart bleeds! I will "declassify" my 2 points of finds of L. textor (before the fire there were still a lot of things there), and now "scorched earth". The most interesting thing is that it burned all summer of 2002 and not a single fire truck-solid timber trucks (see someone" dough " on this cooked pretty bad).

I mistakenly deleted my previous message asking what the forest is like to the east and west of severnaya gari, primarily on the road from the first point to the north-northwest (towards platf. Zarya), especially along the eastern edge of this road on its first 2.4 km, to the intersection. In the depths of a forest dominated by conifers, there is hardly any point in searching, but along the edges of such forests there may be enough corresponding hardwoods, and in such open places a beetle, in my opinion, is quite possible. In general, you need to look more closely even directly on the roads. Crushed it came across me just on the asphalt highway, where the necessary rocks were only in the priopushechny plume, moreover, in a fairly young stand, and in general all the surroundings were mainly coniferous medium-old forest.

I mistakenly deleted my previous message asking what the forest is like to the east and west of severnaya gari, primarily on the road from the first point to the north-northwest (towards platf. Zarya), especially along the eastern edge of this road on its first 2.4 km, to the intersection. In the depths of a forest dominated by conifers, there is hardly any point in searching, but along the edges of such forests there may be enough corresponding hardwoods, and in such open places a beetle, in my opinion, is quite possible. In general, you need to look more closely even directly on the roads. Crushed it came across me just on the asphalt highway, where the necessary rocks were only in the priopushechny plume, moreover, in a fairly young stand, and in general all the surroundings were mainly coniferous medium-old forest.

Thanks! I am especially glad that you know my places! And the intersection is the one where the field ends and the road enters the forest? I walk along it regularly in the direction of Kupavna (to the west of it in the direction of Dyatlovka, by the way, everything was also chopped up-infections). But in fact, there really need to look more closely. It always hurt to have productive places. Yes, L. textor is just on the roads I found.

And the intersection is the one where the field ends and the road enters the forest? I walk along it regularly in the direction of Kupavna (to the west of it in the direction of Dyatlovka, by the way, everything was also chopped up-infections). But in fact, there really need to look more closely. It always hurt to have productive places. Yes, L. textor is just on the roads I found.

No, a little further than the field ends (see figure), otherwise it would not have been 2.4 km; but it is the intersection with the road between Dyatlovka and the quarry in front of Vishnyakovo. After the intersection, further movement to the northwest will show a change (at least a small one) in the species composition of barbels, since further on, as I understand it, the road goes through a forest with a clearly larger percentage of old coniferous stands than in your forest before the intersection. If, of course, something from that forest still survived after the felling on the Dyatlovka – Kupavna line, which you report. So it is more logical to look for L. t. still, up to the intersection. But the cross road itself to the left and right (where, as I understand it, it goes around the northern edge of the swamp) - especially to the right-seems quite attractive to me in general. By the way, after a heavy windstorm that blocked the exit to the swamp from all sides, except for the south-east (where there are water areas, i.e. from the dacha village), have you ever been to that swamp? And how long has Vetrov been there? And what is a swamp in faunal terms (not according to L. T., of course)? I've never been in your country before, so I'm asking you, since you know it.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 12.01.2010 18: 21

Pictures:

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I will add, by the way, that the finds of L. t. known to me were in any case not in dry places. Once-an asphalt highway (almost parallel) along the northern edge of the Batkovsky swamp, another time-a low river bank at the junction of Taldomsky, Dmitrovsky and Sergiev Posad districts.

I will add, by the way, that the finds of L. t. known to me were in any case not in dry places. Once-an asphalt highway (almost parallel) along the northern edge of the Batkovsky swamp, another time-a low river bank at the junction of Taldomsky, Dmitrovsky and Sergiev Posad districts.

However the Aeneas were never caught

No, a little further than the field ends (see figure), otherwise it would not have been 2.4 km; but it is the intersection with the road between Dyatlovka and the quarry in front of Vishnyakovo. After the intersection, further movement to the northwest will show a change (at least a small one) in the species composition of barbels, since further on, as I understand it, the road goes through a forest with a clearly larger percentage of old coniferous stands than in your forest before the intersection. If, of course, something from that forest still survived after the felling on the Dyatlovka – Kupavna line, which you report. So it is more logical to look for L. t. still, up to the intersection. But the cross road itself to the left and right (where, as I understand it, it goes around the northern edge of the swamp) - especially to the right-seems quite attractive to me in general. By the way, after a heavy windstorm that blocked the exit to the swamp from all sides, except for the south-east (where there are water areas, i.e. from the dacha village), have you ever been to that swamp? And how long has Vetrov been there? And what is a swamp in faunal terms (not according to L. T., of course)? I've never been in your country before, so I'm asking you, since you know it.

I will indicate approximately the most significant for me deciduous barbels along the entire length of Poltevo-Kupavna (except for lepturins).
Ropalopus macropus Germar, 1824 (1 specimen)
Oberea oculata Linnaeus, 1758 (many)
Oberea pupillata Gyllenhal, 1817 (directly at Kupavna station, 6 specimens)
Necydalis major Linnaeus, 1758 (3 specimens)
Aromia moschata moschata Linnaeus, 1758 (plenty of it)
Xylotrechus rusticus Linnaeus, 1758 (many)
Aegomorphus clavipes Schrank 1781 (many)
This is not all (you can just inflate the list for half a page). About the swamp: Peat was also burning there, but I didn't really look there. Is that Monochamus (3 species), yes zlatki some.

I will indicate approximately the most significant for me deciduous barbels throughout the entire length of Poltevo-Kupavna (except for lepturins)...

Thanks! Are there any butterflies from the swamp complex found in the swamp? And do blueberries, blueberries, and cranberries grow?

Thanks! Are there any butterflies from the swamp complex found in the swamp? And do blueberries, blueberries, and cranberries grow?

I don't know how to get to the swamp, but I advise you to walk along the power line clearing (this is from the second point of L. t. to the east).

However, the Aeneas were never caught

Thank you for letting me know. I would never have thought that you were tracking them on the Batkovsky swamp in the Sergiev Posad district of the Moscow Region. Previously, it was believed that for this barbel it is better to go to completely different regions (to Malaysia, for example):
http://www.leppidio.com/driedinsect/en_ima...aeneus_Msia.jpg
However, let the seeker find.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 12.01.2010 23: 36

Thank you for letting me know. I would never have thought that you were tracking them on the Batkovsky swamp in the Sergiev Posad district of the Moscow Region. Previously, it was believed that for this barbel it is better to go to completely different regions (to Malaysia, for example):
http://www.leppidio.com/driedinsect/en_ima...aeneus_Msia.jpg
However, let the seeker find.

By the way, far from a barbel. The similarity is only external. It belongs to the Trictenotomidae, the Tenebrionoidea superfamily. Yes, such a black-skinned thing.

By the way, far from a barbel. The similarity is only external. It belongs to the Trictenotomidae, the Tenebrionoidea superfamily. Yes, such a black-skinned thing.

Well, it is clear that what was previously considered, and systematically outdated, like:
http://zipcodezoo.com/Animals/A/Autocrates_aeneus/

We'll know. Live for a century and learn for a century. But evolutionarily, isn't the barbel so far off?

But evolutionarily, isn't the barbel so far off?

Far away-look at the legs.

On the paws - yes.

The only one(?) Phytoecia from the Moscow region (the beetle is sometimes found on grasses in pockets, in early May-mid-June). Zhuk from here: Moscow region Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.

I have the same ones from here

I have the same ones from here

I've got plenty of them myself, but have you seen any others around here?"

I've got plenty of them myself, but have you seen any others around here?"

But in the Yaroslavl region, according to my observations, the most common species of this genus is Phytoecia cylindrica.

But in the Yaroslavl region, according to my observations, the most common species of this genus is Phytoecia cylindrica.

And we have P. nigricornis everywhere (P. cylindrica has never been collected). I wonder why this is so (it seems to be close)?

P. nigricornis - more southern, we have in the southern half of the region (by the way, I did not catch it myself)... P. cylindrica all over the territory, I collected them in June on umbrella stems (snyt, something similar to a stone quarry, as well as on oregano and like yarrow (the last plant is not sure, it is necessary pick up a box of barbels and stare at the label)

P. nigricornis is more southern, in our southern half of the region (by the way, I didn't catch it myself)...

I have P. nigricornis from the Borisoglebsky district, or rather in general from the vicinity of the village of Borisoglebsky. Biotope-a meadow on the bank of the Ustye River. On what plant-I will not say-it was collected by mowing.

I have P. nigricornis from the Borisoglebsky district, or rather in general from the vicinity of the village of Borisoglebsky. Biotope-a meadow on the bank of the Ustye River. On what plant-I will not say-it was collected by mowing.

On snyti I collected it from us (mostly). I think P. cylindrica and P. nigricornis should be found on the same plants.
I will add: P. nigricornis is found together with Agapanthia villosoviridescens.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 28.01.2010 11: 37

Phytoecia cylindrica can still be tried on the bathing suit to find, I collected them on it, well, on umbrella ones, in late May-early June.

On snyti I collected it from us (mostly). I think P. cylindrica and P. nigricornis should be found on the same plants.
I will add: P. nigricornis is found together with Agapanthia villosoviridescens.

Well, Agapanthia villosoviridescens is not on anything. On nettles, in particular - in the mass.

Well, Agapanthia villosoviridescens is not on anything. On nettles, in particular - in the mass.

Yes, I just wanted to say (from my observations) that where Agapanthia villosoviridescens is there and P. nigricornis (very often in the same place).

I've got plenty of them myself, but have you seen any others around here?"

I'm looking for (((myself, but other than these I haven't hit yet