Moths

In Olnyanka April 1996 N. Laos. Louang. Namtha circ. Ivy I. G. leg.

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is there any modern literature on nygmia, euproktis, etc.?
does anyone already manage to clear up this tuevu hooch?

But does anyone know these waves from Altai (the first 2 Ukok, the last Ulagan)? And then he took a couple of them from me, a couple of years ago, a well-known German specialist to study, but he didn't even bother to tell me the name . So there are indefinite ones.

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But does anyone know these waves from Altai (the first 2 Ukok, the last Ulagan)? And then he took a couple of them from me, a couple of years ago, a well-known German specialist to study, but he didn't even bother to tell me the name . So there are indefinite ones.

All three butterflies are nominate subspecies Dicallomera fascelina Linnaeus, 1758.

But does anyone know these waves from Altai (the first 2 Ukok, the last Ulagan)? And then he took a couple of them from me, a couple of years ago, a well-known German specialist to study, but he didn't even bother to tell me the name . So there are indefinite ones.

Victor, what are the problems with them? They look quite normal fascelina.

But does anyone know these waves from Altai (the first 2 Ukok, the last Ulagan)? And then he took a couple of them from me, a couple of years ago, a well-known German specialist to study, but he didn't even bother to tell me the name . So there are indefinite ones.

Can I get the name of the specialist?

Thank you all, I thought so too, but Schintlmeister was interested in them and took a couple of them for research. Well, I thought that maybe there is something interesting in them.

Thank you all, I thought so too, but Schintlmeister was interested in them and took a couple of them for research. Well, I thought that maybe there is something interesting in them.

probably because I didn't answer that nothing interesting

Victor, this is called "tsap-tsarap".

Are the Himals already in volnyanki?
Recently, they were marching silkworms or, as a variant of the accepted system, a subfamily in the crested moth.

I recently received a volume of Fauna Sinica on volnyanki. This view is present there. But the book is not the most recent, so it turns out that this species is no longer in volnyanki. I transfer it to the topic of crested flowers.

It is better to create separate hikers.
They are not crested.

In continuation of the theme Dicallomera fascelina.
Here are my Dicallomera. Four rows on the right - Dicallomera fascelina Linnaeus, 1758. Geography from left to right, from top to bottom: North Caucasus (where Dicallomera fascelina caucasica Scheljuzhko,1919 flies in the East, and nominative flies in the West), Western Mongolia, Ukraine, Moscow region, Belarus, Omsk region, Altai, Eastern and South-Eastern Kazakhstan. The survey did not show any differences between the specimens from all these places and the nominative subspecies. It is interesting that specimens from high-altitude biotopes often show a light border on the hind wings, as in Dicallomera angelus Tschetverikov, 1904.

Laelia atestacea Hampson, 1892
Male-Laos

Dasychiroides brunneostrigata Bethune-Baker, 1904
Male - Indonesia, Halmahera Island

It is interesting that specimens from high-altitude biotopes often show a light border on the hind wings, as in Dicallomera angelus Tschetverikov, 1904.

And Dicallomera angelus was not accidentally cultured?

This post was edited by Konung-20.03.2013 05: 28

And Dicallomera angelus was not accidentally cultured?

Here you go:
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbr...ge?taxid=350186

Here you go:
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbr...ge?taxid=350186

I wonder what the results showed - what is the similarity between angelus and fascelina?

I wonder what the results showed - what is the similarity between angelus and fascelina?

They didn't show anything. The sequence in bold is the same. And in the genbank one. No one compared them

They didn't show anything. The sequence in bold is the same. And in the genbank one. No one compared them

I wouldn't be so categorical. Work on this kind was carried out. The results will be published by our colleagues.

Euroctis acmaea Collenette, 1947
Male - Indonesia, Sulawesi

I wouldn't be so categorical. Work on this kind was carried out. The results will be published by our colleagues.

There are no results in these databases. After the results of your colleagues ' work are published , we'll take a look.

Olene dudgeoni Swinhoe, 1907
Male - Mainland Malaysia

I present to your attention a small selection of waves of the Ilema genus. Species of this genus are distributed in South, East and Southeast Asia. We have two types in the Far East.
Ilema argentimarginata Chao, 1986
Mountain species collected at an altitude of 2760m num.
Male - China, Sichuan

Ilema melanochlora Hampson, 1895
Male-Laos


This post was edited by chebur - 24.03.2013 08: 24

Ilema montanata Holloway, 1982
Significantly differs from the related species Ilema vaneeckei Collenette, 1932 only in the genitals. I haven't cooked my own copy yet. The determination is preliminary and is based, among other things, on the fact that this specimen was collected at an altitude of 1250 m num, and the double species I. vaneeckei is known from lowland forests.
Male - Malaysia, Borneo

Ilema virescens Moore, 1879
Male and Female-Laos

Ilema (jankowskii) glaucoptera Collenette, 1934
Male - China, Sichuan
Several such males were collected together with females of Ilema nachiensis Marumo, 1917, which initially led me to believe that these are the males of I. nachiensis .
However, it turned out that Collenette described the taxon Ilema jankowskii glaucoptera Collenette, 1934 from Southeastern China. The description says that females were also collected, but their appearance is not specified, from which it can be concluded that they are similar to males.

The previous taxon, IMHO, is not a subspecies of I. jankowskii, but an independent species. The differences are too strong, even at the visual level. I haven't looked at the genitals yet
For comparison:
Ilema jankowskii Oberthur, 1884
Male-Primorye, Russia

I will duplicate the second species of this genus in our fauna:
Ilema eurydice Butler, 1885
Male - Russia, Primorye
(Thanks to Pavel Morozov for the material! By the way, it would be nice to have a female in the studio...)

Something very much butterflies raznopomaternye in order to belong to the same genus.....

Something very much butterflies raznopomaternye in order to belong to the same genus.....

I totally agree with you. The company is very diverse. We are waiting for the revision of the orgioid complex. After its publication, I will, of course, bring the taxa displayed here in line with it.

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Dasychiroides brunneostrigata Bethune-Baker, 1904
Male - Indonesia, Halmahera Island

Why don't you like this species as Dasychiroides bicolora Bethune-Baker, 1904? Both species are very variable in the severity of the costal dark spot

This post was edited by guest2-23.03.2013 23: 19

Ilema nachiensis Marumo, 1917
This species is found on the Japanese Islands, including the island of.Okinawa, on.Taiwan, in mainland China.
Does anyone know what a male of this species looks like? I couldn't find a photo on the Internet, and the image in Fauna Sinica is too dark and indistinct.
Female - China, Sichuan

male nachinensis

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Ilema nachiensis Marumo, 1917
Thank you guest2 for the photo of the male! I move the photo of the female closer to the male.
Female - China, Sichuan


This post was edited by chebur - 24.03.2013 08: 55

[quote=guest2,23.03.2013 23:04] Ilema preangerensis Heylaerts, 1892
The nominate subspecies Ilema preangerensis Heylaerts, 1892 is known from Java, Sumatra and Borneo. The subspecies Ilema preangerensis melanochlora Hampson, 1895 was described from Bhutan. I guess that's what my material from Laos is about. The image of the male of this species is included in Volume 30 of Fauna Sinica, but without mentioning the subspecies.

You should not risk attributing the species described from Java to the fauna of Laos The subspecies Ilema preangerensis melanochlora Hampson, 1895 has never been found either in nature or in the literature, as far as I know. From Bhutan, Hampson described the taxon Malachitis melanochlora, which was assigned to Ilema by Kishida in 1994, namely Ilema melanochlora (Hampson, 1895), a good species. Your instance is extremely similar to it.
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There is such a subspecies in the literature. (Holloway The Moths of Borneo 5 : http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/orgyii...gyiini_6_1.php).But I agree with you that the taxon Ilema melanochlora deserves a species status.

This post was edited by chebur - 24.03.2013 08: 58

Dasychiroides brunneostrigata Bethune-Baker, 1904
Male - Indonesia, Halmahera Island

Why don't you like this species as Dasychiroides bicolora Bethune-Baker, 1904? Both species are very variable in the severity of the costal dark spot

These two species, in my opinion, cannot be considered in isolation from the third, Dasychiroides pratti Bethune-Baker, 1904.
The high individual variability of species of this genus can be judged at least from the images on the site http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbr...age?taxid=58325
There are specimens with a darkened midfield, like in D. pratti, and lighter specimens like Dasychiroides brunneostrigata and Dasychiroides bicolora. All of them, according to the barcoding, belong to the same species, which is designated on the site as Dasychiroides sp.
I attach a description of the three species and their image in the original description to the email. All of them are described from the same place, and even the author himself was initially inclined to describe D. bicolora only as a form of D. pratti.
Are there any differences in genitalia between these species?
According to the description and image in the original description, I disdainfully attributed my specimen to D. brunneostrigata, but your version is also quite plausible, provided that these are really different species that can be reliably distinguished.

Ilema jankowskii Oberthur, 1884
Female-Primorye, Russia

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Ilema eurydice Butler, 1885
Female-Primorye, Russia

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