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31.03.2014 21:27, TEMPUS

History of breeding of Macrothylacia rubi (Linnaeus, 1758).

Last fall (September 18-19), I found three caterpillars of the raspberry cocoonworm (Macrothylacia rubi) in a dacha (Ivanovo region, Shuisky district, Krasnoarmeyskoye village).

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He fed the caterpillars with goat willow (Sálix cáprea) until the end of October. When the caterpillars stopped feeding, I put them in a container with wet sawdust. After crawling along the surface for a while, the caterpillars dug into the sawdust. In this container with sawdust, the caterpillars were kept all winter on the balcony of an ordinary city apartment. At the beginning of spring (March 2), I moved the caterpillars to the heat, they got out of the sawdust and just sat on their surface for a while, not moving. At this time, I periodically moistened the sawdust with a regular flower sprayer. After sitting on the surface of the sawdust for some time (five to six days), the caterpillars began to prepare for pupation, namely, to build a light cocoon in the upper layer of sawdust. Ten days later, when I was sure that the caterpillars had pupated, I carefully opened the cocoons and took out the pupae. At this stage, unfortunately, a loss was discovered - one of the caterpillars did not pupate, but for some unknown reason simply dried up in the cocoon. The other two caterpillars pupated normally.

The pupae were very different in size, and it was clear that one of them was clearly a male and the other was clearly a female:

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Female pupa:

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Male pupa:

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At the end of March, butterflies began to emerge from the pupae. Female (March 27):

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Male (March 29):

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02.04.2014 15:57, AGG

I also once brought out rubi wink.gif
eggs from one female. part of the brood. natural seating
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02.04.2014 20:04, Sergey Rybalkin

Tell me, please, in the picture males of pini or sibiricus?
In the other picture, a female japonica, or something else?

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02.04.2014 20:17, Vlad Proklov

Tell me, please, in the picture males of pini or sibiricus?
In the other picture, a female japonica, or something else?

pini and ilizik.
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02.04.2014 20:29, AGG

Vadim here cited the differences between pini/sibiricus (post 412), but.. does sibiricus have extremely light forms? or what was shown - the edge?

This post was edited by AGG-02.04.2014 20: 36

03.04.2014 19:15, dim-va

the question is where this material comes from. Please also write geographical labels.
The female Phyllodesma is very similar to the Altai-Tuva undescribed species, if it is Chelyabinsk, then ilicifolia.
Dendrolimus like this, without dimension and without reference to geography, I would take both pini upper and sibiricus lower. In any case, they look more like an ordinary piney. For verification, you can prepare it if the question is very important.
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03.04.2014 20:10, Sergey Rybalkin

Thanks for the clarifications. All material from the Chelyabinsk region, Snezhinsk. Phyllodesmu needlessly starved, it was necessary to take the eggs from her!

09.04.2014 20:05, Sergey Rybalkin

I put out two more cocoonworms, is it tremulifolium?

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09.04.2014 21:21, TEMPUS

I put out two more cocoonworms, is it tremulifolium?

The upper one is definitely, without a doubt, tremulifolium. There are still doubts about the bottom one, let someone more experienced tell you.

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10.04.2014 17:42, dim-va

Oba
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26.04.2014 17:01, Sergey Titov

Tell me, please, what is this Phyllodesma?
Collected: 21.04.2014, East Kazakhstan, mountain range (big) Tarbagatai, village of Kyzymbet (old.Alekseyevka)

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26.04.2014 17:37, dim-va

It's a good view. The spring generation is such a contrast, the summer will be a single-color brownish-yellow.
Phyllodesma ambigua Stgr.
It would be very interesting to try to find caterpillars in your area (willow, most likely) or, if there is a female, try to hatch from eggs.
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26.04.2014 18:51, Konung

It's a good view. The spring generation is such a contrast, the summer will be a single-color brownish-yellow.
Phyllodesma ambigua Stgr.
It would be very interesting to try to find caterpillars in your area (willow, most likely) or, if there is a female, try to hatch from eggs.

alas, there were only males...

28.04.2014 9:25, rhopalocera.com

On Or they are also there. We caught it...
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28.04.2014 17:23, dim-va

its spring form is just described with Or. And so-with Kulji. The species is particularly common in the mountains of Kyrgyzstan.

28.04.2014 17:53, rhopalocera.com

its spring form is just described with Or. And so-with Kulji. The species is particularly common in the mountains of Kyrgyzstan.



Well, I haven't arrived yet..

10.05.2014 22:03, Guest

Female ilicifolia

16.05.2014 17:31, Victor Gazanchidis

Phyllodesma ilicifolia (Linnaeus, 1758) Females. Ryazan region Kasimov district 01-11. 05. 14

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16.05.2014 18:17, dim-va

The second one is
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17.05.2014 16:29, Dantist

Phyllodesma ilicifolia (Linnaeus, 1758) Females. Ryazan region Kasimov district 01-11. 05. 14

Viktor, did the females come to the world?, if so, at what time?

17.05.2014 18:59, Victor Gazanchidis

Yes to the light. Both by about 23, one per night. There were no males.
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24.05.2014 4:58, S-Gull

Greetings.
The question is, if the chrysalis of the cocoonworm in the second week suddenly hardened so much that it stopped bending in the abdominal area, does this mean that it withered/died?
I'm a layman in this business, so I decided to clarify with knowledgeable people: you never know, maybe this is how it should be...

This post was edited by S-Gull - 05/24/2014 04: 59

29.05.2014 18:38, vasiliy-feoktistov

Moscow region male Phyllodesma (Phyllodesma) japonica (Leech, 1889)
10.05.2014 Moscow region, Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district, okr. pos. Vereya, peat bogs, to the light. leg. Feoktistov V. I.
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06.06.2014 19:24, EuRyAlUs

Paralebeda plagifera-Taiwan

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06.06.2014 19:34, dim-va

Paralebeda femorata ssp. mirabilis; plagifera is not found in Taiwan.

07.06.2014 22:18, EuRyAlUs

Vadim, Thank You!
Tried to define in the Net, found only this - http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/peo/FBMothInfo.aspx?PID=4813

07.06.2014 23:27, dim-va

These two species are immediately separated by a rounded dark spot in the lower part of the outer zone of the forewing (tornal spot). Femorata always has it, plagifera always doesn't. well, the genitals there are completely different. As for the Taiwanese knowledge of their fauna, it doesn't even surprise me anymore. This is generally typical for the Chinese. By the way, there is no photo of the advantages of this subspecies in the network, I would be grateful if adult caterpillars can be depicted here. Good luck ))))

08.06.2014 4:22, EuRyAlUs

Lasiocampa grandis - Israel 09.04.2013

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12.06.2014 14:39, Sergey Rybalkin

Is this a male Phyllodesma tremulifolia?

collected on 15.05.2014, Chelyabinsk region

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30.06.2014 19:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

Just like that: a short history of obtaining the Oak cocoonworm Lasiocampa (Lasiocampa) quercus (Linnaeus, 1758)
The caterpillar is shown in in this report (was taken for breeding).

Larva: 18.05.2014 Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, okr. der. Old Omuishchi.
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Pupa: 02.06.2014 Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny
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Imago: 30.062014 Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny
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PS To Gennadich and Sungaya: the same male came out as expected smile.gif

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06.07.2014 21:55, vasiliy-feoktistov

Brood female Euthrix potatoria (Linnaeus, 1758)
It was released on the same day as the oak cocoonworm shown above.
The caterpillar was collected on 07.06.2014. Here: Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, okr., der. Starye Omutischi, on the forest road. Pupated right on the way, in my backpack and brought home a ready-made cocoon. I did not take photos of the goose and cocoon because of the usual appearance.

Imago: 30.062014 Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny
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18.07.2014 5:01, EuRyAlUs

Trabala vishnou guttata L1-Republic of Taiwan
To be continued wink.gif

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16.08.2014 10:44, evk

Seaside cocoonworms captured this July (just a little) for testing and identification.

Eutrix albomaculata female.
Primorskiy kr., Pogranichny district, Barabash-Levada village district. 7.07.2014.
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Eutrix albomaculata male.
Primorskiy kr., Pogranichny district, Poerechnaya Pad 4 km S s. Sofye-Alekseevskoe. 6.07.2014.
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Gastropacha clathrata
Primorskiy kr., Pogranichny district, Poerechnaya Pad 4 km S s. Sofye-Alekseevskoe. 6.07.2014.
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Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, the valley of the Gryaznaya River 3 km below the village of Kravtsovka. 1.07.2014.
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Gastropacha quercifolia badly battered by life. Thanks to dim-va for the correction.
Primorskiy kr., Khasansky district, the valley of the Gryaznaya River 3 km below the village of Kravtsovka. 1.07.2014.
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Odonestis pruni rufescens
Primorskiy kr., Pogranichny district, Barabash-Levada village district. 8.07.2014.
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Paralebeda femorata
Primorskiy kr., Pogranichny district, Poerechnaya Pad 4 km S s. Sofye-Alekseevskoe. 7.07.2014.
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Primorskiy kr., Shkotovsky district, Livadiyskiy hr. 7 km s s. Anisimovka, 17.07.2014.
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16.08.2014 13:43, dim-va

not orientalis, but quercifolia,
undefined male = clathrata
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11.10.2014 19:50, Andrey Ponomarev

Is it possible to identify these people?
Astrakhan region, Akhtubinsky district, settlementBolkhuns, as big as tremulifolia
1 12.09.2014
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12.10.2014 20:47, AntSkr

[quote=Gennadich,11.10.2014 20: 50]
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25.01.2015 18:10, Victor Gazanchidis

Hello everyone Finally, we got around to the Malaysian Training camp(Pahang, 03.2014). Everything is flattened, but not defined. Lots of cocoonworms. I will slowly spread it out, after determining I will leave it here, because there are no such types in the topic. I hope for the help of specialists. I would be grateful if someone can suggest good sites for self-identification of Asian (Malaysian) moths. I know Moth of Borneo, but it didn't help much.

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25.01.2015 19:33, Victor Gazanchidis

Moved to the Frost. Yes, there are a lot of waves.

25.01.2015 20:15, Grigory Grigoryev

Hello everyone Finally, we got around to the Malaysian Training camp(Pahang, 03.2014). Everything is flattened, but not defined. Lots of cocoonworms. I will slowly spread it out, after determining I will leave it here, because there are no such types in the topic. I hope for the help of specialists. I would be grateful if someone can suggest good sites for self-identification of Asian (Malaysian) moths. I know Moth of Borneo, but it didn't help much.


first 2: Kunugia florimaculata (Tsai & Hou, 1983)
second 2: Kunugia lineata (Moore, 1879)
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25.01.2015 20:25, Victor Gazanchidis

From the same place

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