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03.01.2014 8:06, rhopalocera.com

so it was sarcasm...

and if someone is not in the topic, then either Indian laboratory assistants or Chinese postdocs do all the rough work there, and the chefs get only letters. not so long ago, there were discussions about how science is done wink.gifthere .

03.01.2014 8:24, bora

If I had such Indian laboratory assistants (or at least one Chinese), I would light a candle every day. Their qualifications and hard work are much higher than that of many of our established "specialists".

This post was edited by bora - 03.01.2014 08: 47

03.01.2014 9:02, bora

not so long ago, there were discussions about how science is done wink.gifthere .

I don't know everyone there, of course.
But Martin Wiemers is very good at doing science THERE.
Yes, and Talavera et al recently made a great science there.

03.01.2014 9:35, rhopalocera.com

These are units.
The main mass "masters" funds wink.gif

03.01.2014 10:59, sergenicko

These are units.
The bulk of them "master" the funds wink.gif

sequencing is expensive. and the qualified work of a laboratory assistant - "Indian" is also not cheap (in Europe).

03.01.2014 12:34, barko

And as for the genitals, this is the result of working only 3 hours (along with photographing)
Could you sign these photos?

03.01.2014 13:19, Guest

Could you sign these photos?

1. Scolitantides orion
Volgograd region, Gornaya Polyana settlement, 17.05.2011, Kuznetsov
2. Pseudophilotes bavius
Rostov region, Boelokalitvensky district, kh. Boguraev, 10.05.2011, B. Stradomsky
3. Pseudophilotes vicrama
Rostov region, Razdorskaya station, 9.06.2001, B. Stradomsky

male ! female
lateral view !
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Uncus and ! valve
gnathos !
ventral viev !
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03.01.2014 13:22, bora

1. Scolitantides orion
Volgograd region, Gornaya Polyana settlement, 17.05.2011, Kuznetsov
2. Pseudophilotes bavius
Rostov region, Belokalitvensky district, kh. Boguraev, 10.05.2011, B. Stradomsky
3. Pseudophilotes vicrama
Rostov region, Razdorskaya station, 9.06.2001, B. Stradomsky

male ! female
lateral view !
_____________________________

Uncus and ! valve
gnathos !
ventral viev !

Something threw me out of the forum

03.01.2014 14:00, barko

And as for the genitals, this is the result of working only 3 hours (along with photographing)
You use a measuring grid, but I don't have one, so I have to keep track of the dimensions by photographing the genitals at the same magnification.
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03.01.2014 14:19, bora

You use a measuring grid, but I don't have one, so I have to keep track of the dimensions by photographing the genitals at the same magnification.

The grid is very easy to make virtually. Once, an exact scale is photographed (for example, I have a glass with a ruler broken by 0.1 mm) at the same magnification as the genitals. Then the photo of the ruler is simply superimposed on the photo of the genitals.

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04.01.2014 23:28, Wave Storm

Colias hyale/alfacariensis

07.05.2013
Ukraine, Kherson region, below the village of Tomarino

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22.01.2014 13:31, Sergey Rybalkin

Chukchi Colias hecla aquilonaris (Grum-Grshimailo, 1899)

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22.01.2014 20:50, rhopalocera.com

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22.01.2014 22:49, lepidopterolog

I spent a long time "delving" into Meleageria parce.... This is powerful.

23.01.2014 1:22, rhopalocera.com

I spent a long time "delving" into Meleageria parce.... It's powerful.


Anyone can pee themselves.

26.08.2014 17:39, Victor Gazanchidis

Tibet.

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26.08.2014 17:42, Victor Gazanchidis

Colias nina Fawcett, 1904, Tibet

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04.09.2014 4:50, Karat

You can immediately see what he caught, and what he exchanged.
This year I was fishing for separata and got a very beautiful yellow-green female (the first in a row of females)!

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30.09.2014 20:47, daydreamer

Good afternoon!
Expert help is required. Turkish egg yolks. From the book Butterflies of Europe & the Mediterranean area of Chikolovets it follows that there is no chrysotheme, mirmidone, or erate on the southern coast of Turkey.
I caught these three men in Oludeniz at the end of April this year. The first one was right near the shore (there were still the same ones), a couple in the mountains (they flew above 1000 m. years were in full swing).

After all, the departing chrysotheme
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Croceus or aurorina?
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And there are also 3 pieces from Kemer since May 2008, all caught near the shore.
Croceus?
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Would say that erate
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This is generally xs.
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Help good people!!!
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30.09.2014 21:13, Nick444444

Good afternoon!
Expert help is required. Turkish egg yolks. From the book Butterflies of Europe & the Mediterranean area of Chikolovets it follows that there is no chrysotheme, mirmidone, or erate on the southern coast of Turkey.
I caught these three men in Oludeniz at the end of April this year. The first one was right near the shore (there were still the same ones), a couple in the mountains (they flew above 1000 m. years were in full swing).

1) After all, the departing chrysotheme

2) Croceus or aurorina?
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1) Colias croceus is most suitable, as there are differences from Colias chrysotheme!
Here are the links:
Colias chrysotheme
Colias croceus
2) Also larger than C. croceus: top female, bottom male.
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01.10.2014 10:14, rhopalocera.com

all croceus/erate wink.gif
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28.11.2014 20:46, Wave Storm

October 10, 2014, Kherson.

Colias erate

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28.11.2014 20:52, Геннадий Шембергер

This is erate.
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28.11.2014 20:56, Wave Storm

This is erate.

Thanks for fixing it.

This post was edited by Wave Storm - 11/28/2014 21: 01

29.11.2014 14:39, Wave Storm

Now I tried to identify the yolks by eye, which I photographed this year.

Colias erate, 12.05.2014, Ukraine, Kherson region, a gully in the west of Beryslav
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Colias alfacariensis, 28.08.2014, Ukraine, Kherson region, a gully west of Beryslav
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Colias crocea, 10.10.2014, Ukraine, Kherson
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Colias alfacariensis, 19.10.2014, Ukraine, pos. Antonovka, on the banks of the Dnieper river
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Colias crocea (or maybe myrmidone?), 19.10.2014, Ukraine, pos. Antonovka, on the banks of the Dnieper river
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This post was edited by Wave Storm - 11/29/2014 14: 40
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29.11.2014 16:03, Wave Storm

A bold decision!
And most importantly, this decision is absolutely not binding to anything.

If it's wrong, then correct it.
I checked the sites Butterflies of the Crimea and Butterflies of the Caucasus.
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29.11.2014 16:38, okoem

If it's wrong, then correct it.

If you just want to sign a photo, then that's right. But if you start to understand... Somewhere near the beginning of the topic was discussed.
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21.12.2014 18:31, DavBaz

Colias nebulosa ssp. richthofeni O. Bang-Haas, 1927, quite different from the subspecies karoensis presented earlier in the topic

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21.12.2014 18:35, DavBaz

Colias diva. It looks a bit like our heos

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21.12.2014 18:37, DavBaz

Colias baeckeri. The upper wings are cast in purple, almost like the genus Apatura smile.gifIn the photo, unfortunately, it was not possible to convey this in full

This post was edited by DavBaz - 21.12.2014 18: 38

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10.01.2015 1:58, KM2200

Dear specialists.

Once in this topic, we discussed what happens if certain populations were divided, and then meet. For example, here:
The "nedovids", who did not reach good views and met again after the glaciation and are just now merging in ecstasy, have local oddities.
I recently read a popular book, and it states that if two " non-species "who have not had time to separate meet again, they cannot"merge" in any way.
It is explained something like this: hybrids will be less viable, since the mutations accumulated by the first and second populations during isolation were not "tested" for compatibility with each other. Therefore, it is not profitable to interbreed with representatives of the "alien" population, and selection will favor those who are inclined to interbreed with "their own". Thus, despite the possibility of interbreeding, the species will still separate, and even faster than in the presence of isolation.

Please comment.

18.01.2015 18:57, DavBaz

Colias chippewa from Magadan.

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18.01.2015 20:09, Sergey Rybalkin

Colias chippewa from Magadan.

I caught them there, I think it's still C. palaeno.

18.01.2015 20:16, Diogen

Yes, it is indisputable that palaeno. C. chippewa in Russia, if there is, is only in Chukotka - I personally saw a series of butterflies from the vicinity of Pevek, collected by G. A. Anufriev.

18.01.2015 20:24, Pavel Morozov

definitely palaeno!

However, Grieshuber's Chukchi chippeva is now called C. palaeno arctica. Who should I trust? Who to trust! rolleyes.gif

19.01.2015 8:42, Diogen

Grieshuber is not a biologist. This is important to understand.
Korshunov brought chippewa for Chukotka, this author deserves much more trust, if only because he worked in Novosibirsk, in one of the largest state collections in Russia.
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19.01.2015 9:16, sergenicko

In Novosibirsk, the collection "Asian (supposedly) Chippewa" is represented by the taxon gomojunovae. At the same time, there are Alaskan chippewas in the collection, which Korshunov did not consider conspecific with Chukchi. In his 2002 book, the Chippewa for North Asia is not listed. The subspecies that I don't know who first copied into chippewa (apparently Tuzov, whose idea was taken up by Guppy&Shepard 2001)) was described from Bilibino as C. palaeno gomojunovae Korshunov, 1996.

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19.01.2015 9:31, Diogen

chippewa was first pointed out from Russia by V. K. Tuzov:

1993 - Synonymic list...
1995 - Notes on... West Chukotka // Actias...

I, again, saw this view from Chukotka - a rather large series (I also had something from that very series - but most likely the material is lost).

I was wrong about Korshunov, I apologize. I thought that it was he who indicated it=) .

19.01.2015 9:51, sergenicko

chippewa was first pointed out from Russia by V. K. Tuzov:

1993 - Synonymic list...
1995 - Notes on... West Chukotka // Actias...

I, again, saw this view from Chukotka - a rather large series (I also had something from that very series - but most likely the material is lost).

I was wrong about Korshunov, I apologize. I thought that it was he who indicated this=).

19.01.2015 9:53, sergenicko

Chippewa Guppies and Shepard were separated from Paleno according to Tuzov, who claims that both species fly in Chukotka. In America, baffinensis and chippewa are traditionally considered subspecies of paleno, there are no others there. So the problem with Chukchi butterflies is whether gomojunovae and other paleno subspecies are sympatric there. According to Tuzov, in the Magadan region, these 2 taxa are sympatric, but occupy different biotopes: chippewa (in the Guppy's retelling) on "stream-edges in dry tundra", and C. palaeno only on "low-elevation forested swamps".

This post was edited by sergenicko - 19.01.2015 09: 56
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