Subgenus Sphodristocarabus (genus Carabus)

The same subspecies, but from South Kazakhstan.

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Does this happen with Karabuses??? It is necessary to blow, apparently.

This post was edited by Fornax13-23.08.2008 20: 15

What is the question about? By the shape of the bag? Indeed, a very characteristic process. Only Adamsy has it so strongly developed.

About the area. Miracles, however...

Indeed, a very characteristic process. Only Adamsy has it so strongly developed.

C. (Sphodristocarabus) janthinus is the same.

And about the area-this is a separate article. Here we are dealing with randomly imported individuals that have created a stable population.

I don't really understand how you can accidentally import large predatory beetles in sufficient numbers to form a stable population

The area where the series was assembled is neither industrial nor tourist. But the fact remains that 6 different-sex individuals found during 3 weeks can not be accidentally "fallen from the sky". Apparently, they were brought to the dacha village with building materials, clothes, etc.

well, this is not a delivery in any way.. Having a carabiner is something...
Maybe this is the edge of the range, when they spread is not known, maybe hundreds of years ago.. or maybe it's another subspecies - send Obydova, he will describe

If we trace the range of this subgenus , it is exclusively Caucasian. There are obviously no connections with the Central Asian fauna. Moreover - the region is well researched in entomological terms - such large beetles as the carabus could not be overlooked for more than 100 years of collecting from these places. I am sure that such a disjunction can only be explained by the importation. Most likely, random.

I don't think so.what can be explained by the importation of...
There in Tajikitsan or wherever, found a new kind of large beautiful parnassus, not so long ago!!!

Yes-a-a! I would like to share my thoughts. First, the importation of large carnivores, which are representatives of the genus Carabus, whether at the stage of eggs, larvae,pupae or imago for more than one hundred km from the edge of the range to create a stable population is unlikely. These are not barbels, you can only start them with wagons with dirt. It is unlikely that anyone carries soil from Armenia or Iran to SE Kazakhstan. Secondly, even once in a new habitat, there are very few chances to survive, adapt to new conditions and reproduce, because mobile predators clearly have interspecific competition.
But the fact is, as they say, stubborn fun! Bugs, I take it, caught for the first time this year? Closest range to Kazakhstan in S. (Sphodristocarabus) elegantulus Motschulsky, 1850-C. Iran with a call to Turkmenistan (Kopet-Dag). Representatives of this subgenus can most likely enter Kazakhstan through connecting mountain systems (not through the steppes of Kazakhstan). Therefore, Sergey, it would be necessary to show entich beetles to good specialists in the genus Carabus. Perhaps, if not a species, then a clear subspecies. By the way, there was some information about C. (Sphodristocarabus) armeniacus (variants) found in the Southern Urals.

I believe Dmitry Obydov is aware of the discovery

He knows something, but he doesn't have the material to describe something new...

In general, we still need to find out how many years this species has existed, and on this basis we can already build theories about its distribution.. After all, perhaps once its range was much larger and it was easier to spread, and then there were gaps in the range, in the localities, in the climate..

By the way, I found ground beetles in the center of the dacha area, where many are being built. And building materials from Iran account for a significant share of exports. Once I mentioned on the forum that I found a Catharsius beetle in the construction market of Almaty (I forgot to look, I don't want to go into the boxes) inhabiting India and Pakistan.

But what about the import of C. nemoralis to central Russia? After all, this species not only stopped by and took root, but also became widespread and even dominant in anthropogenic altered biotopes. By the way, during the construction of the biostation of our university, nemoralis were imported with building materials and their population existed for several years, reaching a high number, but later disappeared.

I will have to "boyanit" again, but here I already had the pleasure to comment on the introduction of C. nemoralis in the vicinity of Alma-Ata, where since its first discovery (1986) it has managed to become the dominant species in the foothills of the megalopolis among the karabus. So the Caucasian invaders are very aggressive allochthons in Central Asia, (look for ishkhan in Issyk-Kul, where his weight is 75 kg against the northern Sevan, where 8 kg is rare, and again I wrote reviews of beekeepers about the populations of Apis melifera from the Caucasus on the forum). Therefore, the statement that "even once in a new habitat, the chances of survival, adaptation to new conditions and reproduction are very small, because mobile predators clearly express interspecific competition" should be taken into question.

This post was edited by Mylabris - 26.08.2008 19: 15

charges dropped

75 kg. However, trout is

I will have to "boyanit" again, but here I already had the pleasure to comment on the introduction of C. nemoralis in the vicinity of Alma-Ata, where since its first discovery (1986) it has managed to become the dominant species in the foothills of the megalopolis among the karabus. So the Caucasian invaders are very aggressive allochthons in Central Asia, (look for ishkhan in Issyk-Kul, where his weight is 75 kg against the northern Sevan, where 8 kg is rare, and again I wrote reviews of beekeepers about the populations of Apis melifera from the Caucasus on the forum). Therefore, the statement that "even once in a new habitat, the chances of survival, adaptation to new conditions and reproduction are very small, because mobile predators clearly express interspecific competition" should be taken into question.

The arguments are weighty. The introduction of C. nemoralis is indeed evident, and the expansion of the species is aggressive and, in my opinion, is associated with the creation of favorable conditions as a result of artificial changes in the environment. This led to the withdrawal of certain species from the territories as direct competitors. Still, it remains a mystery to me how a species like the Carabus can be introduced. I can understand a natural introduction in the form of an expansion of the range associated with similar habitat conditions. Many types of carabuses are specialized and require a set of conditions for their existence.

75 kg. However, the trout

Yeah, it's a bit of a tin can! Still there is no better Sevan ishkhan

it is still interesting to study the found copies in detail.. Because if this is really some other subspecies, then the situation is different.

Many taxonomists would consider it a new subspecies, if only on the basis of such a disjunction.

The arguments are weighty. The introduction of C. nemoralis is indeed evident, and the expansion of the species is aggressive and, in my opinion, is associated with the creation of favorable conditions as a result of artificial changes in the environment. This led to the withdrawal of certain species from the territories as direct competitors. Still, it remains a mystery to me how a species like the Carabus can be introduced. I can understand a natural introduction in the form of an expansion of the range associated with similar habitat conditions. Many types of carabuses are specialized and require a set of conditions for their existence.

C. nemoralis is a synanthrope, was introduced to North America, and managed to spread across Canada from coast to coast (reaching south in the United States to California on one side and Virginia on the other), and, as they say, massively comes across crushed on roads and paths (as, for example, in Moscow parks). The situation is similar (according to literature data) with C. granulatus. Of the 14 species of this genus found in North America, three (i.e. about 20%) were introduced from Europe. Interestingly, of the other two European species, C. cancellatus and C. auratus, released in North America specifically to control unpaired silkworms, the former has not taken root at all, and the latter is found only in New England.

This post was edited by amara - 28.08.2008 15: 02

Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians janthinus Ganglbauer, 1887.
Presumably n. ciscaucasicus Mandl, 1975
Female body length 24 mm
Krasnodar Krai, Tuapse district, Semashkho 04. V. 2008, leg. D. D. Fominykh

This post was edited by rpanin - 14.04.2010 20: 20

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians varians Fischer, 1827
Body length, 22 / 21mm
female Transcaucasia, Armenia, Amasiysky district, Karakhachsky pass h=2270m, 3. VIII. 1985 leg.P. V. Kazaryan
male Transcaucasia, Armenia, Amasiysky district, Arpalach village VI. 1999, leg.P. V. Kazaryan

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) bohemani bohemani Menetries, 1832
Male, 20mmm.
Azerbaijan,
Talysh Mts., Polikesh, h~1800m., 2-6.VI.2001 Dolin V.G. leg.

This post was edited by rpanin - 05.03.2010 20: 36

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians janthinus n. dvorshaki Mandl, 1975
03-13.VI.2009 З. Caucasus, Abkhazia, Gudauta district
, Duripsh settlement, Hipsta River, h=400-500 m.
Body length 20-25 mm.
In modern taxonomy, the taxa sp. variants and sp. janthinus is treated differently and controversially. A revision of this subgenus is required.

This post was edited by Entalex - 23.11.2011 15: 18

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians armeniacus Mannerheim, 1830 n.pseudoarmeniacus Breuning, 1935
26mm
NE Turkey, Artvin Prov., Borзka, Macahel Gecidi h=1450m, 18.VI.2007, D.Prunier leg.

Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians basilewskianus Breuning & Ruspoli, 1970
самка,24мм
NE-Turkey, Artvin Prov., , Hopa vers Borçka , Cankutaran Geçidi h=800m, 17.VI.2007 leg. D. Prunier

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians ?rugatus Breuning, 1934
25mm
Abkhazia, Ankho cr., okr.oz. Cho, h = 2450-2550 m 13-14. 07. 09 A. S. Bondarenko

This post was edited by rpanin - 01.04.2010 15: 28

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) adamsi hollbergi Mannerheim, 1827
22mm
N-Azerbaijan, 4 km W Ismaily, h=700m, 9. VII. 2008, Ivy I. G. leg.

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   Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians rugatus Breuning, 1934
25mm
Abkhazia, Ankho cr., okr.oz. Cho, h = 2450-2550 m 13-14. 07. 09 A. S. Bondarenko

The subspecies rugatus Breuning, 1934 is not found in this region (it is very far from its range), and in the photo it is just a high-altitude form of Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varieties janthinus n. dvorshaki Mandl, 1975. And this given locale is located near the border with the Krasnodar Territory, not far from Avadhara, to the south, South-east

rugatus Breuning, 1934 occurs in the highlands of the Chkhalta range and is characterized by green-bronze coloration and features of the structure of the genitals and sac.

This post was edited by I. solod - 03/31/2010 22: 53

The subspecies rugatus Breuning, 1934 is not found in this region (it is very far from its range), and in the photo it is just a high-altitude form of Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varieties janthinus n. dvorshaki Mandl, 1975. And this given locale is located near the border with the Krasnodar Territory, not far from Avadhara, to the south, South-east

rugatus Breuning, 1934 occurs in the highlands of the Chkhalta range and is characterized by green-bronze coloration and features of the structure of the genitals and sac.

If you compare dvorshaki Mandl, 1975 with the Entalex photo, you can see quite a strong difference between them. Is it possible for my beetle to have such an individual shape ?

This post was edited by rpanin - 01.04.2010 00: 58

   If you compare dvorshaki Mandl, 1975 with the Entalex photo, you can see quite a strong difference between them. Is it possible for my beetle to have such an individual shape ?

This is not an individual form. I have a female C. variants ssp. janthinus from Avadhara (h=1700 m). She has an elytral sculpture like your ex. and it differs significantly from N. dvorshaki Mandl, 1975. The granularity of the primary and especially secondary spaces is coarser and more uneven. If you take dvorshaki Mandl, 1975 as a nation, then the highland form has nothing to do with it, IMHO.

high-mountain ones are all like that - but probably this form doesn't have a name yet.
for example, it is photographed and as if typical n. dvorshaki Mandl, 1975
3-4 copies-rugatus Breuning, 1934
I apologize for the quality of the photo, another photo is now at hand

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Up to the heap:
Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) varians ssp. varians Fischer, 1827
N. Armenia, Idzhevan distr., Acharkut vill. env., h=800 m.
26-28.VII.2008 S. Andreev leg.
M-22 mm, F-23 mm.

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) adamsi ssp. adamsi Adams, 1817
Russia, Stavropol Krai, Zheleznovodsk,
Yu. Zheleznaya city slope, park, h=600 m.
5-11. VI. 2011, E. Shanghiza leg.
Male - 24 mm, female - 25 mm.
Endophallus siphonyl, respectively, swollen not as much as possible

This post was edited by Entalex - 23.11.2011 15: 21

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) macrogonus macrogonus Chaudoir, 1847
20mm
NE-Turkey:Trabzon env., Sumela, 17-21.VI.2010, M.Janalik leg.

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Carabus (Sphodristocarabus) macrogonus pseudokolatensis Heinz & Korge, 1967
20 mm
NE-Turkey::Kackar Dagi Mt, Ayder S of Ardesen h=1600m, 17-21.VI.2010, M.Janalik leg.

This post was edited by rpanin - 17.02.2012 11: 04

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