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18.02.2010 13:01, Melittia

Without definition-Crimea, Simferopol, Perovo village, along the railway tracks on the way to Sevastopol 4.07.2009 14mm

Terrible condition. The female is either Chamaesphecia dumonti Le Cerf, 1922 or Chamaesphecia annellata (Zeller, 1847). This group is very difficult to identify by imago, but very easy to identify by forage plants.

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18.02.2010 14:21, Alexandr Zhakov

"Bison" went hunting

18.02.2010 15:14, palvasru4ko

"Bison" went hunting

Her... More likely - "forest orderly"!

But, I think, everything is only "for"!!!!

21.02.2010 0:01, Egorus

For Melittia
, thank you so much for the definitions and a very nice message about a possible new
look. Unfortunately, the specimens that are in the shared image are not all in good
condition and are not very well spread out. Strong
image distortion is possible. I photographed all the copies separately, and additionally using the permission from the "Opr.butterflies" - I send a photo to the personal account.
Once again, thank you.

24.02.2010 21:03, Kharkovbut

I would be grateful if you could clarify the definition.

Synanthedon vespiformis male, 6 / VI / 2009, Kharkiv. Photo by A. Slutsky.

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24.02.2010 21:08, Kharkovbut

?Bembecia ichneumoniformis, 29 / VI / 2009, Kharkiv. Photo by A. Slutsky.

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24.02.2010 21:34, okoem

Bembecia ichneumoniformis, 29 / VI / 2009, Kharkiv. Photo by A. Slutsky.

But in my opinion, this is a different kind. Alternatively , Bembecia scopigera. Look at that red sawyere! Or am I wrong?

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25.02.2010 0:47, Kharkovbut

But in my opinion, this is a different kind. Alternatively , Bembecia scopigera. Look at that red sawyere! Or am I wrong?

Anything can happen. I'm full

here .

Although according to Lastuvka and ichneumoniformis may have antennae with rufous. And I was also looking at the belly coloring. Although the instance is broken... Maybe Melittia will judge us...

25.02.2010 1:49, okoem

Although according to Lastuvka and ichneumoniformis may have antennae with rufous.

ichneumoniformis has only a red smear on its antenna, I think. And here a significant part of the antenna is red. But I won't say anything ...

25.02.2010 21:52, Melittia

I would be grateful if you could clarify the definition.

Synanthedon vespiformis male, 6 / VI / 2009, Kharkiv. Photo by A. Slutsky.

Yes, it is S. vespiformis. Male.

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25.02.2010 22:01, Melittia

Bembecia ichneumoniformis, 29 / VI / 2009, Kharkiv. Photo by A. Slutsky.

Yes, the copy is not exactly a collector's item! I would say it's a female B. scopigera, but it could also be B. ichneumoniformis. It is very easy to determine by the forage plant: if there was Onobrychis in the biotope, then it is scopigera, and if Lotus-ichneumoniformis. There are also differences in the genitals.

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25.02.2010 23:12, Kharkovbut

Yes, the copy is not exactly a collector's item! I would say it's a female B. scopigera, but it could also be B. ichneumoniformis. It is very easy to determine by the forage plant: if there was Onobrychis in the biotope, then it is scopigera, and if Lotus-ichneumoniformis. There are also differences in the genitals.

Thanks! In this case, a biotope is an arboretum with the presence of all sorts of exotic plants... I don't think there's any sainfoin (I usually notice it). And lyadvenets should be. We'll check it out in the coming season.

Or we can make it so that the butterfly is assembled (I'll check with the collector).

This post was edited by Kharkovbut - 25.02.2010 23: 22

06.03.2010 23:21, Alexandr Zhakov

I will put up several types of undetermined or doubtful glass cases.

Great hope for Melittia.
1. Chamaesphecia ?oxybeliformis
picture: аIMG_9857мм.jpg

2. A series of these butterflies are collected on the flowers of kermek, on the coasts of the Sea of Azov.
2.1.2.2 picture: аIMG_9849мм.jpg

It looks like this is the same view 3 and 4.?
3. picture: аIMG_9845мм.jpg

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13.03.2010 15:24, Melittia

I will put up several types of undetermined or doubtful glass cases. Great hope for Melittia.
1. Chamaesphecia ?oxybeliformis

2. A series of these butterflies are collected on the flowers of kermek, on the coasts of the Sea of Azov.
2.1.2.2
.
It looks like this is the same view 3 and 4.?
3.
4.
5.

No. 1-female Chamaesphecia oxybeliformis.
No. 2-Synansphecia cirgisa (Bartel, 1912) - the first find in Ukraine!
№ 3 и 4 - Synanthedon tipuliformis (Clerck, 1759)
№ 5 - Chamaesphecia astatiformis (Herrich-Schaffer, 1846).

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13.03.2010 16:14, okoem

No. 2-Synansphecia cirgisa (Bartel, 1912) - the first find in Ukraine!

This species is given in the book "Butterflies of the Crimea" (1990), at the end there is a list of glassworms - http://crimea-lep.h12.ru/content/20_spisok_babochek.htm

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19.03.2010 15:27, Melittia

This species is given in the book "Butterflies of the Crimea" (1990), at the end there is a list of glassworms - http://crimea-lep.h12.ru/content/20_spisok_babochek.htm

Of course, yes! I apologize for forgetting that Crimea is neither Russia nor Turkey.

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27.03.2010 21:24, Papaver

Hello, Oleg!
Please see if these animals were correctly identified: http://macroclub.ru/gallery/showphoto.php/...o/26829/cat/526
Andrey

27.03.2010 21:57, Melittia

Hello, Oleg!
Please see if these animals were correctly identified: http://macroclub.ru/gallery/showphoto.php/...o/26829/cat/526
Andrey

Andrey, I didn't find the definition there. This is a pair of Synanthedon uralensis (Ifkeudb 1906). Very good picture! And in what format?
Oleg

27.03.2010 21:58, Melittia

Andrey, I didn't find the definition there. This is a pair of Synanthedon uralensis (Ifkeudb 1906). Very good picture! And in what format?
Oleg

Synanthedon uralensis (Bartel, 1906)

27.03.2010 22:02, Melittia

Synanthedon uralensis (Bartel, 1906)

Yes, Sasha Chuvilin is right! He remembers these glass girls from our trip together.

27.03.2010 22:04, Papaver

Yeah... Thank you. So A. Chuvilin correctly identified: "(Fri) 20 November 2009 21:26 Good!!! It looks like S. uralensis" - the third post under the picture.
In what format-meaning?

27.03.2010 22:05, Papaver

Yes, Sasha Chuvilin is right! He remembers these glass girls from our trip together.

Well, with such a sensei...

27.03.2010 22:59, Melittia

Yeah... Thank you. So A. Chuvilin correctly identified: "(Fri) 20 November 2009 21:26 Good!!! It looks like S. uralensis" - the third post under the picture.
In what format-meaning?

jpeg, RAW

27.03.2010 23:19, Papaver

Understood. I'm still that user...

28.03.2010 10:53, Melittia

Understood. I'm still that user...

But still, in what format is the picture made? For printing, you need to take photos in RAW format, and jpg-only for the monitor!
Good luck!!

28.03.2010 10:55, Zhuk

Here are a couple of boxes with working material on glass cases.

Just awesome!!! I also want

28.03.2010 11:02, RippeR

and, if possible, a little larger, I really want to see them

28.03.2010 11:18, Papaver

But still, in what format is the picture made? For printing, you need to take photos in RAW format, and jpg-only for the monitor!
Good luck!!

I'll ask the author...

28.03.2010 11:22, Vorona

Yes stopudovo Eugene in RAW shoots...

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28.03.2010 16:47, Melittia

and, if possible, a little larger, I really want to see them

And I don't understand why they are so small! In the original, they are a couple of Mb each! How do I upload them like this?

28.03.2010 17:47, Zheka

I ask for help in determining. The wingspan is ~ 18 mm. Butterfly, it seems, obese

28.03.2010 18:59, Melittia

[quote=Zheka, 28.03.2010 18: 47]

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28.03.2010 19:17, Zheka

It is most likely Chamaesphecia dumonti Le Cerf, 1922 from Stachys spp.

It may well be. There were plenty of chistets at the place where the butterfly was captured.

28.03.2010 19:37, Papaver

But still, in what format is the picture made? For printing, you need to take photos in RAW format, and jpg-only for the monitor!
Good luck!!

Oleg!
Evgeny answered:"... I always shoot in RAW. t. ch. if the picture is of interest, then no problem-there is a series of 6 pictures in slightly different angles and about the same decent quality. ... "

28.03.2010 19:46, RippeR

Melittia:
reduce photos in paint - if the size is not too large, the weight decreases significantly.
Or at least do not take a picture of the entire box at once.

28.03.2010 20:38, Melittia

Oleg!
Evgeny answered:"... I always shoot in RAW. t. ch. if the picture is of interest, then no problem-there is a series of 6 pictures in slightly different angles and about the same decent quality...."

Thank you so much!! Great! I will always remember these pictures! I think you'll need them for an illustrated paper about glass windows.

28.03.2010 20:47, Melittia

Here, I changed the images a little.

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29.03.2010 6:53, evk

Ah here without me all proobrazovali

I'll post it here, too.
Synanthedon uralensis.
Volgograd region, border of the Ilovlya and Olkhovsky districts, floodplain of the Ilovlya River near the village of Aleksandrovka. 6.06.2009

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29.03.2010 10:21, evk

I will also post what is in the photo on the glass borders. At the same time, I'll check if Oleg was "dragged" here

1. Chamaesphecia_astatiformis
Volgograd region, Sredneakhtubinsky district, 5 km W.Red Tug. 7.06.2008
Picture: Chamaesphecia_astatiformis_2.jpg

2. It is also located near the city of Volgograd, Sandy gully 4 km NO. Water. 25.05.2005
picture: Chamaesphecia_astatiformis.jpg

3. Synanthedon myopaeformis. Astrakhan region, Dosang village. To the light of the DRV. 12.06.2009
picture: Synanthedon_myopaeformis.jpg

4. Synanthedon scoliaeformis. Altaiskiy kr., 1.6 km east of the village.Nalobikha. 11.07.2009
picture: Synanthedon_scoliaeformis.jpg

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29.03.2010 11:14, Stas Shinkarenko

Another glassmaker from the Volgograd region. Neighborhood of Mikhaylovka, 24.08.09 Unfortunately, there are no other angles.

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