Glassworms (Sesiidae)

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Synansphecia triannuliformis (Freyer, 1845)

Help me identify the glass box.

Synanthedon formicaeformis (Esper, 1783)

No. 1 - female Chamaesphecia oxybeliformis.

IMHO, this is Chamaesphecia dumonti Le Cerf, 1922

dumonti
oxybeliformis

IMHO, this is Chamaesphecia dumonti Le Cerf, 1922

Vladimir, and your butterflies, what was visually determined on the site, or cooked?
On the page of the dumonti species, I think there are two species,
and on the oxybeliformis that you have on your site, I would say masariformis (we have the same red ones).
I cooked my own, but for a very long time.

Vladimir, and your butterflies, what was visually determined on the site, or cooked?
On the page of the dumonti species, I think there are two species,
and on the oxybeliformis that you have on your site, I would say masariformis (we have the same red ones).

oxybeliformis determined Melittia by its external characteristics.
masariformis right here not like that at all.
dumonti-cooked, determined by yourself. Not two species, but just fresh and flying butterflies. Letannye lose their reddish color. In the Crimea, one of the fairly common glasshouses-collected on the flowers of sandra, as well as pheromones.

I accidentally found an interesting publication, which may be useful to someone. By the way, the taxon is described from Ukraine!

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Two publications on glass houses in Lviv region. Fauna, ethology, notes on search and breeding.

Schnaider Jozef
Przezierniki — Aegeriidae // Polskie pismo Entomologiczne. 1937-1938, XXVI-XXVII. s. 283-291.
DjVu+

Schnaider Jozef
Przezierniki — Aegeriidae (Lepidopt.) Czesc II. // Polskie pismo Entomologiczne. 1939-1948, XXVIII, Z. 1. s. 105-112.
DjVu+

 


Nos. 3 and 4-Synanthedon tipuliformis (Clerck, 1759)

Recently, I was puzzled by the question of how to distinguish between S. spuleri and S. tipuliformis. I found this key. IMHO, the photo is not S. tipuliformis, but S. spuleri.
Источник: FAZEKAS IMRE Microlepidoptera Pannoniae meridionalis, N° 5
Clearwing moth Region fauna in the South Transdanubian (Microlepidoptera: Sesiidae)
Only currants are listed there for S. tipuliformis, while juniper, hazel, hornbeam, beech, elm, and maple are listed for S. spuleri. Does currant grow on Khortytsia?
In the Crimea, S. spuleri was quite numerous on the edges of the beech forest last season.

 
Only currants are listed there for S. tipuliformis, while juniper, hazel, hornbeam, beech, elm, and maple are listed for S. spuleri. Does currant grow on Khortytsia?
In the Crimea, S. spuleri was quite numerous on the edges of the beech forest last season.

Khortytsia Island has an area of more than 20 square meters.km and it is home to more than 1000 plant species.
Currants grow both on household plots and the berries of TSNIITIMEZH, which were there at that time. From the above trees. bush. most common maple elm.
In '94 and' 97, I had a camp on the site of a demolished village where currants were plentiful.

Very interesting information about the differences between tipuliformis and spuleri.
Who do you think is who?
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Very interesting information about the differences between tipuliformis and spuleri.
Who do you think is who?

Here, I found more images, (Lastuvka, 2001).

It turns out that S. tipuliformis has shorter window cells and a more developed yellow color.
I would say that No. 3 S. tipuliformis, and No. 1 and 2 - maybe spuleri, although, according to the same Lastuvka, it should not be in Tambov.
It is logical to assume that S. tipuliformis is more likely to occur in places of natural currant growth - in the north and west of Ukraine. Unfortunately, I don't know how things are going with "natural" currants in the Tambov region.

and from the description of these species in Lastuvka's work, it follows that spuleri has a different forehead color?
Sukhareva in" green " writes about yellow hairs in the anal bundle in spuleri - is this a working sign?
at the expense of currants-I'm no botanist, so I don't know if we have wild currants, but along the forest belts we have a lot of currants, of course it is planted specifically, but it looks "completely uncultured" and from there it can spread over considerable distances

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I'm not much of an Englishman, so I'll give you my text. I think they're talking about yellow hairs, too. However, I didn't find them in my own copies. But there are no yellow strokes on the outer edge of the wing.
Natural currants in your area probably should be, but here even planted without care does not always survive. True, other plants are also mentioned as fodder in various sources, but here it is necessary to understand "where the legs grow from", because at present few people study the preimaginal stages, so it happens that errors wander from publication to publication for decades...

Synanthedon spuleri (Fuchs, 1908)
July 9, 2012, Crimea, lower plateau of Chatyr-Dag.
The most numerous type of glasshouse (more than a dozen at a time), which I met in the Crimea. It is found on yayla-in clearings and edges of beech forests. In addition, it is located in the center of Simferopol, in a Children's Park.

.....I think they're talking about yellow hairs, too. However, I didn't find them in my own copies. But there are no yellow strokes on the outer edge of the wing..
..

and for how long, anal hairs and the outer part of the wing, stable signs?
I did not find any striking differences in the genitals according to Sukhareva's tables
is there an option that your spooleries are not spooleries?

and for how long, anal hairs and the outer part of the wing, stable signs?
I did not find any striking differences in the genitals according to Sukhareva's tables
is there an option that your spooleries are not spooleries?

Unfortunately, I don't know about the stability of the above-mentioned signs.
In order to completely discard the "no spoolery" option, you need to deal with two points:
- how reliable is the indication of birch bark (and hazel) as fodder for tipuliformis.
- how reliable are the indications of tipuliformis in the Crimea. It is very suspicious that for the Crimea, the usual spool is not given, but instead the tipuliformis is given. At the same time, butterflies similar to tipuliformis (with well-defined yellow scars along the wing edge) I haven't seen it yet.

Vladimir, did you bring them out ? Is it possible that the yellow strokes are flying around?
PS it has always been very interesting how you can discover and then grow a glass jar if you have any experience, please share

Vladimir, did you bring them out ? Is it possible that the yellow strokes are flying around?
PS it was always very interesting how you can discover and then grow a glass jar if you have any experience, please share

- I didn't withdraw it.
"it's possible.
Schneider has written well about the search for glass windows (see the articles above). Briefly and freely retold-this lesson requires a lot of time and patience. To get positive results, first of all, you need to devote all the available time to these searches, and secondly, first of all, you need to find out the biotopes, forage plants, the timing of caterpillar development and butterfly summer, after which the forage plants are regularly examined for damage, or "watches" are arranged near the forage plants in order to notice the arrival and laying of eggs a female. In addition, traps are arranged - strips of bark are cut from the branches of forage plants, and after a year these damaged areas are examined for the presence of caterpillars. Each type of glassworm is closely related to its own food plant and butterflies do not fly far from them.
I only once managed to (accidentally) find an adult glassworm caterpillar. I pulled out a forage plant for a pigeon by the roots, on the rhizome, in the upper part, I found a hole with excrement, and inside a caterpillar. The rhizome was placed with the lowest part in the water and the caterpillar was safely fed.
Schneider writes that he cut off the branches with caterpillars, leaving fragments of about 30-40 cm, filled the sections with paraffin and stuck them in moist soil. In these clippings of branches, they were fed.

Bembecia ichneumoniformis ([Denis & Schiffermuller], 1775)
June 6, 2012, Crimea, Feodosia, Mount Tepe-Oba.

is there an option that your spooleries are not spooleries?

I understood the question a little.
S.tipuliformis was first listed for the Crimea in a book by Kozhenchikov et al. "Forest pests "(1955), from which the species(definition) was later borrowed by other authors. I do not have this book, but given that it lists a number of species that are not present in Crimea, it is obvious that the data for Crimea there are largely extrapolations, but not based on real material. Thus, apparently, there are no reliable finds of S. tipuliformis from the territory of Crimea.

This post was edited by okoem - 05.12.2012 12: 10

Synanthedon scoliaeformis (Borkhausen, 1789), Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district,Moscow region.Poplar,29.06.2012.
The butterfly was sitting calmly on a plum tree (although it is birch), obviously not long ago hatched by its fresh appearance.


The post was edited by Gennadich - 05.12.2012 13: 13

 
masariformis right here not like that at all.

There's a different subspecies, ours looks like this, though it's flown enough:
Chamaesphecia masariformis.
Ukraine.Zaporozhye region, Volnyansky district, Yasinovatoe village. 03.06.2011

There's a different subspecies, ours looks like this, though it's flown enough:

Both on lepiforum and in your photo, the butterflies are not particularly different - just the white balance is different and the saturation is different. And the butterfly is just a luxury one-there's some fringe!

  
oxybeliformis

oxybeliformis on BOLDSYSTEMS.

Is it Pyropteron cirgisum or am I wrong?



June 15, 2011. Zaporozhye region, Dneprorudny, "field near the city".
Author of the photo - Valeria

Is it Pyropteron cirgisum or am I wrong?



June 15, 2011. Zaporozhye region, Dneprorudny, "field near the city".
Author of the photo - Valeria

No, it is Synansphecia cirgisa (Bartel, 1912). Super!

Hello! Please help me determine the glass box. She was photographed in the Botanical Garden in Moscow. Doubted between apple and willow, but introduces doubt stripe on the second segment of the abdomen

Hello! Please help me determine the glass box. She was photographed in the Botanical Garden in Moscow. Doubted between apple and willow, but introduces doubt stripe on the second segment of the abdomen

Let me know the exact date of the meeting.
This is a female Synanthedon culiciformis (Linnaeus, 1758).

Let me know the exact date of the meeting.
This is a female Synanthedon culiciformis (Linnaeus, 1758).

Thank you very much!
The meeting was on May 26 2012

Thank you very much!
The meeting was held on May 26, 2012

Thanks! And where did the meeting take place in Botsad?

Thanks! And where did the meeting take place in Botsad?

To the left of the main entrance, under the power LINE

Female Conopia stomoxiformis (Hübner, 1790). It was hatched today. The pupa was collected in the vicinity of Kerch (Crimea) on May 8 this year.

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And this is a male. From the same point. It was released today. I consider it one of the most beautiful views of the Western Palearctic.

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Bembecia ichneumoniformis ♀
Germany, Niedersachsen, Northeim 2011
Sesia apiformisf ♀
Germany, Niedersachsen, Hardegsen 2012
about Bembecia ichneumoniformis doubt because very small in size does not fit

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It's okay, it's her! I just ate poorly or got sick as a child.

Female Conopia stomoxiformis (Hübner, 1790). It was hatched today. The pupa was collected in the vicinity of Kerch (Crimea) on May 8 this year.

And on what plant was the pupa collected?

And on what plant was the pupa collected?

In the Crimea, I know only one forage plant - Rhamnus cathartica. If you have information about something else , I will be glad!

Please help me with the definition of this glass box. Zafotkana in the southern Crimea, in mid-June of this year

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They said that presumably Bembecia ichneumoniformis.

spheciformis, or something else?
north-west of Omsk region, June 30, 2013.