Data Recovery

I have the opposite question: Stanislav, and what is the easiest way to physically destroy the information on the hard disk (you can do it together with the disk itself), without resorting to a sledgehammer and dynamite?

Not. There is a screw, without a computer. You need to destroy the data on it physically, at the same time killing the screw itself. I.e. do not use software and do not connect the screw to the computer at all. In this case, what is the easiest way to proceed?

Asar, get out of there such things as here I have on the wall hanging And put the disk back together, so the spies will be surprised.
And the plates are an interesting thing, very mirrored, they would bend radially, and you can make a telescope. And there is also a motrchik, and a controller for it, you can use plates, cut out blades from them and assemble a stylish fan )))

rhopalocera.com and aluminum plates? If you bend it, does it still mirror?

So that very simply and quickly I do not understand the screws. That's why the question is valid: how to quickly kill the disk along with the info?

Punch a nail in several places?

I'm afraid the nail will not help - the holes will be local, and a sufficient amount of information can theoretically be restored (the question is who needs it?). The most efficient and simple option is just the same sledgehammer
It is possible to influence the HD with a very strong magnetic field.
It is also a good idea to heat it up to 500 degrees, in theory, the disks should be demagnetized from such temperatures.

How easy it is with a CD...

The most efficient and simple option is just the same sledgehammer

I agree. Sledgehammer - fast, simple, radical.
And if you put it on a gas stove and thoroughly calcined? The smell of course will be...

Put the connected and working screw on a brick and hit it with a sledgehammer with all the dope!

Ah, quickly kill the data? Together with the screw? The viability of the screw is not important?
Then simply. Apply 220 volts to the board. The truth will stink a little later, and traffic jams will most likely fly out . Or option 2: turn on the screw and drop it from a height of about a meter (working). After that, usually on the surfaces of such gashes do not occur)))

Aha, and after 220V, the whole plates will remain The best thing is to give the disk to the children to play in the yard! And children - joy, and the owner-a guarantee that the data from there is no longer considered niiiikto )))
There is another hopeful way, and with benefits! Go to Paris and drop a CD from the Eiffel Tower. However, what's interesting is that you don't even need to turn on Yandex.Disk. But after that - preferably, but suddenly! Again, both the host and the data will not be read by anyone.

I take it you want to have some fun here?" Please send me your Yandex. Disk. I won't hit it with a sledgehammer, burn it with electricity, or drop it off the Eiffel Tower. I'll just erase his translator. Guaranteed data destruction in 2 seconds, with no possibility of recovery. At the same time, the drive will remain absolutely serviceable. But I can't recommend this method to anyone, since the equipment for its implementation costs from 65,000 rubles.

No, stop. I want to be nervous, but it's not fair. "Erase the translator" equipment for 65,000 rubles, this is not the same as "submit to disk 220V"? And in general, for 65,000 it is better to go to Paris, and from the tower of it, this disk, than to buy equipment)

220V - reliably kill data as well. Pancakes without adaptations will not be read like this. Adaptives are available in the boards of all modern screws. And their recovery, as a rule, is absolutely impossible.

http://www.stankorb.com/articles.php?article_id=9

http://www.stankorb.com/articles.php?article_id=10

By the way, I have heard about such a disk recovery algorithm if you need to restore a disk that has a burned-out controller on the board. The algorithm is as follows. You can buy the same disk or work card. From a bad board, a certain chip is soldered out, probably this very adaptive one, where information about the disk layout is stored, which must be intact, of course, and is soldered into a new board. The disk is read, and that's it. I didn't do it myself, but my friends did it well.

I myself restored the data on the disk, just running the microchip was enough to read what I needed. And another disk stopped being read, I disassembled it, and it turned out that the axis on which the bearing of drums with plates was sitting was developed. I wrapped a piece of paper there, and the disk started working. And then he worked for at least a year, I myself was blown away, and this is after disassembling in an ordinary room with dust ))) The capacity was 20gb. And the 2GB disk worked open for me at all, and I dropped the cover from it on its plates. It was cool - the lid flew to one side, and the disk bounced and fell )) But then-it worked perfectly, without new beetles(and the old ones, unfortunately, remained), and it still works, but is not used )

Grind to dust on nozhdak

My disk flew yesterday ( and they said that hard drives do not fly)))). Moreover, it broke down completely - the slider somehow broke off from the lower head on one side and it was lifted up, furrows on the disk turned out, and replacing the heads of course did not help
The capacity is not large, 80GB, but still unpleasant, some pictures are missing, many other things, but in principle not fatal, and the main thing is that most of the data was archived, so a lot of things survived-hence the conclusion - all unique content should not be lazy and somehow duplicate somewhere, and even better to do of the two RAID 1 disks, they say that it helps, I didn't try it myself


Grind to dust on nozhdak

Seneka, well, it's also not worth it ))) From the hard drive, you can do a lot of useful things, the plates will go to children to play ENT doctor, for example(by the way, it really works, especially with plates with glass on top/made of glass) Or you can make a clock, there were diagrams somewhere

PS
rhopalocera.com, and what are the plates in Samsung type SP8012N made of, not entirely made of glass?

This post was edited by Hierophis - 11/15/2011 23: 55

Yes, directly, and what data can be valued on the average household computer Now, in principle, even the capacity of the screw is not relevant-all entertainment content can be obtained from the Internet, all images must be immediately written to DVD, otherwise there will not be enough space on any disk at the same time, correspondence.. the thing is, even if there are no copies on the mail site - it's not a big problem, diploma work? well, repetition is the mother of learning ))), so it's better to pick the screw yourself and see what's inside than to send it with your personal information to all sorts of other people's uncles)))

so it's better to pick out the screw yourself and see what's inside, than to send it with your personal information to all sorts of other people's uncles )))

Folk joke: "put out your own eye so that your mother-in-law has a crooked son-in-law".
Uncles have nothing else to do, as your information is interested in.

rhopalocera.com, ray B already chesno said that you do not know what the pancake is made of in Samsung SP8012N
PS
Well, since you restore information for free, then is it really a pity to try to bend / bend a pancake, I have one, and you probably have hundreds of me from this pancake I want to make a radius mirror, if it bends, it will come out.

This post was edited by Hierophis - 17.11.2011 18: 50

Mostly to Hierophilus:

this is how a branch gets lost - and then someone's winch dies, and Stanislav won't even read posts here, but since I often have to communicate with students (including those who also, let's say, like to get lost), I have enough tolerance. Duc here, on vinchakh there is a lot of very more valuable than theses. Yes, and to redo them again - not the" mother of learning " will be remembered, but at best the devil's. Despite the fact that researchers also have texts of monographs, dissertations, articles, photos from microscopes, experimental protocols, and unique software. And if, for example, the results of some PCR or other financially expensive study have collapsed? About "laying straw" (i.e. making timely backups) - this is true, of course, but there are a couple of proverbs for this: "A smart thought comes after" and "It's too late to drink Borjomi when the liver has fallen off."

And if the winch is still not a pity-well, take it apart and check it yourself. Or do you have a situation "suitable for the mirror - so I'll sort it out, and if it doesn't fit , it will also serve its intended purpose"? Tads are cool...

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 11/20/2011 11: 52

That at Stanislav to see troubles any, crisis can what, well and it has grown colder, winter has come

If you take a specific situation, then I have already sorted out my screw for a long time, nothing so valuable for humanity was viewed on it, no research, and such other things, well, some pictures were lost, some course papers were ancient, some films. Nothing special, I would have slammed another one of these myself, lick the winter would soon be over - then there will be new photos
In addition, I wrote that in my case, the head strongly scratched the surface of the plate, so data recovery there can be very difficult, let's just say-there is no point in straining.
I hope that organizations have acc. services and there know what to do and how to be, if the screw is broken, and at home-there may of course be options, but I'm not campaigning for the fact that any hard drive needs to be immediately gutted-there is something valuable, then it makes sense to restore, no-means no.

Just if I now start bending the plate myself to make a mirror, then it may burst, crack, but I would not want to, because it is one, so I asked a specialist what it is made of in this particular model, but alas-not fate.

Although this is not related to data recovery, it has some relevance.

Today I just found out that a device has appeared that stores data (for example, photos) with a security forecast for 100 years. This is the SanDisk Memory Vault

http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-vau...sk-memory-vault

Included in the list of 7 wonders of the year.

http://www.photoimagingnews.com.au/news/se...s-imaging-world

It's still a bit expensive, but it makes sense when it's especially necessary.

This post was edited by amara - 24.11.2011 16: 11

an ad move. any device based on NAND memory has a limited resource. and it's much less than 100 years old . I would say less than even 10.

You know best. I'm not an expert on this.

They also write that they used the test in extreme conditions, for example, with a temperature rise of up to 125 degrees, and then put the data obtained in the Arrhenius equation to extrapolate the service life of the device.

http://www.sandisk.com/misc/preserve

Of course, I want the resulting value to be written in one place "up to 100 years", and in the second "at least 100 years of data retention" at least somehow justified.

This post was edited by amara - 24.11.2011 18: 25

Stas, I need your help! More precisely, a consultation. I "bent" the screw on which there was the most important information that only exists-books, photos of beetles, sketches of articles, etc. The hard disk looks fine, is displayed in the BIOS and in explorer. But you can't log in to it, it says: "No access to D: The file or folder is damaged. Reading is not possible" and suggests formatting the disk. There is a suspicion that the file structure itself is damaged. Can I restore such a disk myself? Or do I need to apply? Where to? Previously, in such situations, I would just throw out the screw and buy a new one, but this is a different situation.

Stas, I need your help! More precisely, a consultation. I "bent" the screw on which there was the most important information that only exists-books, photos of beetles, sketches of articles, etc. The hard disk looks fine, is displayed in the BIOS and in explorer. But you can't log in to it, it says: "No access to D: The file or folder is damaged. Reading is not possible" and suggests formatting the disk. There is a suspicion that the file structure itself is damaged. Can I restore such a disk myself? Or do I need to apply? Where to? Previously, in such situations, I would just throw out the screw and buy a new one, but this is a different situation.

I'm sorry I got in, of course . But you shouldn't try connecting it to another computer? Or download a third-party operating system from a CD (Windows XPE for example) and try to copy all the information from it somewhere. Not sure that it will help, but I would first try to "dance" like this if everyone sees it. What the hell is not joking? Maybe an OS glitch?

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 01.12.2011 19: 13

Quickly! Thank you very much, Stas! Yes, I have a Seagate, but the screw is new, it is not more than 6 months old, the warranty is even there.

vasiliy-feoktistov - I wrote that he doesn't read anything! And so I have 3 screws, the axis was on the one that bent, but I moved it to another...

New Seagate? Then, with a 90% probability, your drive shows a volume of 0 bytes in the BIOS. Send it to me, I'll do it. You can't do it on your own. There are medications available on the Internet (using terminal commands), but I don't recommend using them - it's a lottery. You can (and with a very good probability) bury the data so that it will be very difficult and long to pull it out.

What's wrong with the Seagate Barracuda? I have all the screws are the same, only the volume is different )))

Well, yes, it shows 0 bytes. R-Studio stumbled on the 15th block, says there are 5 days and 6 hours left until the end

The most annoying thing is that I bought a new screw and transferred the most valuable thing from the old one to it. However, the new screw is bent, and the old one plows like a horse, and in fact it will be about 8 years old.

My opinion about the company's products:
Seagate is really a lottery in recent years: two SATA disks (I don't remember the brand) for 160 gig have been buried recently, and at the same time two ST3500418AS (500 GB) have also been kept for a couple of years. XZ IDE ST380011A (80 GB) and ST3200826A (200 GB) barracudas do not cause complaints anymore many years, but the latest SATA time on time. The firm loses in my eyes, too.
I had to move the post.

What do you mean moved? Copied it, so that all the information is there and there?

Hyphenation is a Cut/Insert

Oh, my God! I searched on the Web about this problem - it looks like Sigate decided to help data recovery engineers! A lot of disks broken in this way, and with other symptoms, it is not possible to restore data for an ordinary user under home conditions with typical programs! You need to solder the adapter and so on.

There was something similar with Fujitsu disks a few years ago, and I "got" into that story - but because I knew about the possible breakdown, I made archives with paranoid frequency, and when the screw finally broke(after working for 2 years), I just went, bought a new one, and vostsanovil all with SD.

So archives are a great power!!!

In general, I probably had more than 5 different NZHMD companies since 1998, and my conclusion is that Samsung is the most reliable, although the last disk that broke was Samsung, but something terrible happened there-I've never seen that a slider can fly off the head and so strip the plate, and he was 4 years old.

Mantispid, by the way, on the screw from where you transferred the data, they could be saved if nothing was written there, and they are restored by ordinary programs like Unerase and Data Recovery, etc., but you need to know where to get such programs, otherwise you can get a virus, in general, if you know what to share for sure-there is the point of doing it, if not, then it is better to take it to the office(although for me-not my method - since personal experience is more valuable, but.. it is necessary to lay the straw, those archives to do)

Stanislav, thank you very much, everything came today!!